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WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:59 PM Feb 2015

TYT: How We're Walking Into An ISIS Trap



"Last September, I wrote that "Nothing that ISIS has done has been whimsical, rather it reflects serious planning and intentionality. A map of ISIS-intended conquest of territory with its oil wells all carefully marked out, dates back to 2006. Its strategy for taking Mosul was more than two years in its incubation." ISIS' horrific immolation of a caged Lt. Muath Al-Kaseasbeh, the Jordanian pilot, too, will have been done in full understanding of the emotional impact of the manner of his death on Jordanians and in the West: This was very deliberate -- not some spur-of-the-moment act of barbarism. It is important to understand what lies behind and beyond the event itself.

As I explained last year when I cited an article by the Lebanese paper Al-Akhbar on the topic, a hadith (a saying attributed to the Prophet Muhammad), asserts that the "long-awaited Hour (of Resurrection)" will not arrive for believers until after the Byzantines have landed in al-Amaq (Southern Turkey), or in Dabiq (a Syrian village located to the north of Aleppo). Indeed, there is a conviction that is widely held across disparate sects (including Christians) in the Middle East today that the foretold signs, prefiguring the coming of redemption, are evident in contemporary world events. ISIS' followers take their understanding of the Dabiq "saying" by the prophet to mean that the great battle will take place between the "Crusader West" and Islam -- and that this struggle has been made imminent by ISIS' declaration of the khilafah (caliphate).

For ISIS, the term "Byzantine" is held to stand for today's "Crusader West" and its acolytes."* The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur breaks it down.

*Read more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-jordan-strategy_b_6674252.html
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TYT: How We're Walking Into An ISIS Trap (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2015 OP
It's interesting that their beliefs mirror CJCRANE Feb 2015 #1
It does not surprise me how much end times rhetoric and beliefs influences their thinking. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #2
WE are all being playied! imthevicar Feb 2015 #3
! DeSwiss Feb 2015 #4
K&R DeSwiss Feb 2015 #5

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. It's interesting that their beliefs mirror
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:17 PM
Feb 2015

far right christian beliefs. The RWers have been talking about the "New Crusades" for the last decade too.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. It does not surprise me how much end times rhetoric and beliefs influences their thinking.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:29 PM
Feb 2015

Personally, I think a war with ISIS will be necessary. This article shows clearly that individual attacks on Europe are a part of their long term strategy, as is their attempts to destabilize surrounding states.

It is likely to be an historical irony that we end up being allies with Iran after spending decades in a cold war with them since the fall of the Shah.

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
3. WE are all being playied!
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:41 PM
Feb 2015

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

Deja' Vu
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
5. K&R
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:21 PM
Feb 2015
TYT: How We're Walking Into An ISIS CIA/Shadow Gov't Trap

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