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JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 01:02 PM Dec 2014

Why Is Obama Using Flimsy Evidence to Blame North Korea for Sony Hack? (Real News)



Paul Jay interviews Col. Larry Wilkerson, who says Sony might be able to protect itself from class action suits brought by employees over privacy if the blame is pinned on North Korea.
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Why Is Obama Using Flimsy Evidence to Blame North Korea for Sony Hack? (Real News) (Original Post) JohnyCanuck Dec 2014 OP
I thought "The Real News" looked flaky uhnope Dec 2014 #1
What is wrong with asking questions? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2014 #4
With all the shit DPRK says.... Burf-_- Dec 2014 #7
"Just Asking Questions" = JAQing off uhnope Dec 2014 #8
Is Real News real ? obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2014 #2
Why not ?... it wouldn't be the first time ... I missed the Russian pipeline jakeXT Dec 2014 #3
Rachel Maddow had a guest on, making the same point. nt delrem Dec 2014 #5
''Always follow the money.'' DeepThroat DeSwiss Dec 2014 #6
It's not that hard to find out where the attack came from, defacto7 Dec 2014 #9
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
1. I thought "The Real News" looked flaky
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 02:08 PM
Dec 2014

and I was right. Also looks like Wilkerson is becoming a professional conspiracy theorist, which is sad

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
4. What is wrong with asking questions?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 03:57 PM
Dec 2014

Why is that so conspiratorial? There is no evidence that it came from N. Korea, who deny it and have requested to help investigate. He's not taking sides only bringing up the possibility that it may be some other group. I could see some fringe hackers seeing a chance to pull a gag with this movie precisely because it would be so easy to have the blame go to N.Korea. Or it could be another country employing hackers to cause tension with N. Korea, like Russia. Yes the obvious suspects are N. Korean hackers but what is so wrong about hearing opinions about alternate theories without branding them a "conspiracy theorist"?

 

Burf-_-

(205 posts)
7. With all the shit DPRK says....
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:34 PM
Dec 2014

who knows how to react to them, one moment they are our friends, the next they are threatening to wipe us of the maps with their "nuclear weapons". Get Dennis Rodman on the case yo.

They are like that stupid kid on the playground in 3rd grade who talked big and tough but ran away and whining to the teacher when it's obvious he didn't have the balls to back up his mouth. Some of it's hilarious to listen to and watch the result, some it is SO bizarre...you are lost for words... wondering "Ok... what the ..... FUCK... are they talking about now ? " Personally they annoy me most of the time, so i just laugh at most of their boastful crap. The ...hack.... well they are the obvious primary suspect so personally I'm down with that. Looks like they sure are reaping what they sowed now that their entire country wide ISP is being raped... by DDoS which IMO is hilarious . They get laughed at by the entire world, but they are mostly too ignorant to see it.

Some shit they say:

http://www.cracked.com/article_17165_6-reasons-north-korea-funniest-evil-dictatorship-ever.html

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
8. "Just Asking Questions" = JAQing off
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:10 PM
Dec 2014

You say there's "no evidence that it came from N. Korea." That is not right: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30554444
I think your blanket statement like that shows what is wrong with listening to fake news.
It also has to do with critical thinking. JAQing off is used by CTers to propose and pursue any theory, no matter how bogus, and the theories often follow an agenda (Putin is victim of evil west, Obama is secret Muslim, etc etc).
So, thinking critically and asking questions is good, but JAQing off is not.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
3. Why not ?... it wouldn't be the first time ... I missed the Russian pipeline
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 03:04 PM
Dec 2014

Moscow needs North Korean cooperation in boosting natural gas exports to South Korea as Gazprom wants to build a gas pipeline through North Korea to reach its southern neighbour.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-invites-kim-jong-un-to-moscow-1.2044141

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. ''Always follow the money.'' DeepThroat
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:28 PM
Dec 2014
- It's not that complicated because they aren't. They're morons.

K&R

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
9. It's not that hard to find out where the attack came from,
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:15 PM
Dec 2014

it's just not information the general public is likely able to determine. What we can determine is the language usage and pathology plus motive. That's not proof in US lawful terms, but with Sony, government, and Internet data, it would not be all that hard to figure it out. One thing is for sure, without China's help we'd have no tangible data... but they aren't saying much.

Probabilities are very high that it's NK that instigated the attack one way or another as far as the general public could be able to discern, but there is a margin of error. Information we aren't privy to would close the gap. So we will never know de facto... but what do we really know about anything? I'll take the "razor" on this one.

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