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Old People Run The Country For This Simple, Powerful Reason (Original Post) JeffHead Nov 2014 OP
I was just about to post this! blackspade Nov 2014 #1
Exactly! Whining does not win elections! Showing up and voting does! We see RKP5637 Nov 2014 #2
I'm old, I vote... malokvale77 Nov 2014 #12
Same here! I know exactly what you mean! Democrats wonder why there is no enthusiasm, just RKP5637 Nov 2014 #15
Fed up is right malokvale77 Nov 2014 #17
And TPTB democrats ponder where the youth vote went. 2010 wasn't enough of a wake up call, 2014 RKP5637 Nov 2014 #18
they were saying the same thing on public radio today ginnyinWI Nov 2014 #3
I wonder what he dyes his hair with? n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #4
Only problem is that most of the elderly were the children from the paranoid Sen. McCarthy era. Crowman1979 Nov 2014 #5
Are those the same children who marched for civil rights, protested the Vietnam War and sarge43 Nov 2014 #8
Nope, I'm talking about the other half who believed all of this RW psedo-christian nonsense. Crowman1979 Nov 2014 #11
In a nutshell malokvale77 Nov 2014 #13
EH. Rod Beauvex Nov 2014 #6
The old people don't "show up", they vote absentee. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #7
The young are UglyGreed Nov 2014 #9
Well said, but it's not so black and white mountain grammy Nov 2014 #10
It would have helped if... malokvale77 Nov 2014 #14
Exactly! The democratic direction for obstruction is to move rightward. Many are really fed up with RKP5637 Nov 2014 #16
Personally... malokvale77 Nov 2014 #19
I agree so much. I would gladly settle for far left in comparison to what we have today. The RKP5637 Nov 2014 #20
Bold would be nice. malokvale77 Nov 2014 #21
Thanks for the conversation! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #22

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
2. Exactly! Whining does not win elections! Showing up and voting does! We see
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:24 AM
Nov 2014

this same story over and over again. What is it many don't get. You don't vote, the other guy does, they get what they want. What is so damn earth shattering hard to understand.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
15. Same here! I know exactly what you mean! Democrats wonder why there is no enthusiasm, just
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:26 PM
Nov 2014

maybe there is nothing to get enthusiastic about. I vote to keep the other one out, but I am not enthused. In fact, I feel let down. In fact, I'm fed up with it all.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
17. Fed up is right
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:55 PM
Nov 2014

My granddaughter voted for the first time. She just turned 18 and was very enthusiastic to vote for Wendy Davis. Outside of that she didn't have a clue.

Her mother and I had a very difficult time trying to find information on the other candidates (we're political junkies).

Not as bad as does not make for enthusiasm.

Needless to say, my granddaughter has lost her interest in the political process, and this long time Democratic family feels very let down.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
18. And TPTB democrats ponder where the youth vote went. 2010 wasn't enough of a wake up call, 2014
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:04 PM
Nov 2014

hopefully is ... but TPTB democrats better get their act together for 2016. I just want back and looked at the 1932 democratic party platform. A lot of that made far more sense than today. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29595 Perhaps democrats should take a look at 1932!

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
3. they were saying the same thing on public radio today
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:27 AM
Nov 2014

It's true: younger people don't get excited about the mid-terms and stay home. That is, the ones who are not normally tuned in to politics.

By the way I am part of the "seniors" he talked about and I do always vote--Democratic.

But I have an 84 year old mother who is in assisted living and hardly ever goes anywhere except to doctor appointments, and SHE voted! Yep, she got my brother to take her, and she voted for all the Republicans. Especially Scott Walker! She has no idea WHY she is voting for them, except that she has voted Republican her whole life.

So that is indeed who is getting out to vote.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
5. Only problem is that most of the elderly were the children from the paranoid Sen. McCarthy era.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 01:30 AM
Nov 2014

Who's parents fed them this daily Christian conservative propaganda about how anyone who didn't look or act like them were considered evil.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
8. Are those the same children who marched for civil rights, protested the Vietnam War and
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:23 AM
Nov 2014

jump started Women's Liberation?

We haven't failed the Democratic Party; it is failing us

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
13. In a nutshell
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:13 PM
Nov 2014

These people are in the process of rewriting history.

It's a bunch of BS, pure and simple.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
9. The young are
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 09:44 AM
Nov 2014

too busy trying to survive, old people are easily frightened by Fox and the Republicans, the perfect storm.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
10. Well said, but it's not so black and white
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:27 AM
Nov 2014

here in Colorado, a leaning blue state, Andrew Romanoff ran a progressive campaign against an old, tired conservative. He ran on "Democratic principles" and he lost. The mainstream media and voter apathy did the trick. If someone like Andrew can't energize the young base to vote Democratic in a fairly progressive state, how can a Dem in a conservative state even compete?

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
14. It would have helped if...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:19 PM
Nov 2014

the Democratic President they so enthusiastically voted for hadn't taken such a dramatic right turn.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
16. Exactly! The democratic direction for obstruction is to move rightward. Many are really fed up with
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 10:34 PM
Nov 2014

the democratic party. To me, the democratic party no longer represents the majority of the people. I remain, because I don't see a decent alternative. ... but I'm getting fed up with supporting a party whose direction I do not support in many ways. I'm not a far out left winger. I've always considered myself a moderate democratic wanting what is fair for ALL the people as in my sig. line, but I have been disappointed. Few democrats today have the guts to stand up for the old democratic values. If they did, they might be quite surprised at how much support they would get from mainstream America. Also, democrats today let the republicans set the agenda. I'll stop here.




malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
19. Personally...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:06 PM
Nov 2014

I am far left, but I would happily settle for anything left of the Third Way.

The Third Way is "not" the Democratic way, and does not represent mainstream America. I'll stop there

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
20. I agree so much. I would gladly settle for far left in comparison to what we have today. The
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:15 PM
Nov 2014

democratic party desperately needs a new paradigm. This backwashing with the republican party is ridiculous and IMO shows the democratic party to be very weak, unable to stand up for its own values and therefore copycats the republican party.

I would like to see a democratic candidate bold enough to turn heads than meekly saying, me too. I gotta stop too, I start to get really po'ed. Frankly, IMO, a number of democratic candidates suffer from the Stockholm Syndrome.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
21. Bold would be nice.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 11:56 PM
Nov 2014

Unfortunately, they are all afraid of being "Wellstoned"

I will probably be crucified for that remark. But I believe it to be true.

I'm off to bed. Take care.

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