Official Russian Government civilian radar video presentation of MH-17 air corridor.

[go west young man]

The Russian government radar telemetry video above includes real time flight patterns and analysis of the other civilian airliners over the combat zone with geo spatial coordinates and time stamps thereby proving it to be 'verifiable evidence'. The US presentation, on the other hand, includes no provable time and date stamp correlation or verifiable proof of location of the missile sites or the air space. The US 'evidence' also neglects to provide actual proof of a missile being launched.

The Russian Ministry of Defense have also pointed out that the US had two satellites directly over the crash area and asked them to release the video imagery from these satellites but thus far the US has refused to do citing security reason. The US has also refused to acknowledge that the fighter aircraft that the Russians point out in their radar telemetry video.

Considering that the US previous had no problem with releasing images that prove their case. (3 Russian tanks, proof of Iraqi WMD) one would think that showing the missile and subsequent contrail that would be left behind might be to the advantage of proving the case. It is odd that we can find 3 tanks when we need them to cite a Russian invasion yet we can't show the missile being launch that the US government and media says brought down the plane.

[go west young man]

1. There is also have this ignored evidence from Air India pilots.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Air-India-flight-was-90-seconds-away-when-missile-struck-Malaysia-Airlines-Flight-MH17/articleshow/38702536.cms

Excerpt: MUMBAI: The ministry of civil aviation's claim that there was no Air India flight near the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 when it was shot down over Ukraine on Thursday appears misleading.

An Air India Dreamliner flight going from Delhi to Birmingham was in fact less than 25km away from the Malaysian aircraft, a distance covered by a Dreamliner or Boeing 777 in about 90 seconds, when the latter was hit. Because of this closeness, the Dnipropetrovsk (local Ukrainian) air traffic controller asked the AI pilots to try and establish contact with pilots of the Malaysian aircraft who had stopped responding to its calls.

Minutes before the crash caused by a missile strike, the AI pilots had also heard the controller give the Malaysian aircraft MH17 what is called "a direct routing". This permits an aircraft to fly straight, instead of tracking the regular route which is generally a zig-zag track that goes from one ground-based navigation aid or way point to another. "Direct routing saves fuel and time and is preferred by pilots. In this case, it proved fatal," said an airline source.

[william cail]

2. RT LIES JUST AS MUCH AS FOX NEWS

I find it amusing that people of DU railed against Fox News as nothing more than an propaganda cable network and gives RT a free past. Both ”news” television networks are propaganda machines that spew out lies.

Fox News and RT are the same. I’m disappointed that members of DU fall so easily to the lies that put out by the Putin Propaganda machine. This is why I stopped listening to Thom Hartmann on a regular bases. He sold out to a propaganda network.

[CtDemoFarmer]

3. Young man

you have not drunk enough Kool Aid today, so go drink some more. You know that Fox and RT lies but CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, and of course the US Government never lie. Forget the Gulf of Tonkin, LBJ's X File, Iraq's WMD, Syria's Chemical Weapon attack, NSA's spying, and all the rest of those non-happenings, and keep drinking that Kool Aid. It tastes good and it won't hurt you. Watch a good TV show and loose yourself in the fantasy. Russia bad, US good, keep saying that, and be happy. Putin evil, Hillary good, embrace our future. Keep swallowing.

[go west young man]

4. True, true....they would never lie to me.

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