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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:49 PM Nov 2013

Obama 'edits' "Under God" from Gettysburg Address: Latest Installment of Obama Derangement Syndrome

Here we go again with another faux scandal. (I can only assume that Daryll Issa isn't sending out subpoenas for the emails surrounding Obama's agreement to do Ken Burns' documentary project on the Gettysburg Address because he's too busy keeping the geeks who are supposed to be fixing the Obamacare website chained to a desk in front of his committee so they can't do their work. But in December...after the deadline for the website fix...I'm sure that's next on the list.)

So, the latest meme from the Right Wing Noise Machine is that Kenyan Muslim Usurping Communist Obama 'edited' the words 'under God' from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, and then SNUBBED the 150th Anniversary of the Gettysburg Address by not going to it.

Pretty cute, huh? Also, very banal.



In fact:
1. Ken Burns ASKED Obama to read the Nicolay draft of the Gettysburg Address for his project 'Learn The Address' in honor of the 150th Anniversary.

2. There are five versions of the Gettysburg Address, two of which are drafts written by Lincoln himself, prior to giving the address. These two drafts, obtained from his personal secretaries, are preserved in the Library of Congress, and neither includes the phrase 'under God.' Hence, these wingnuts should be criticizing LINCOLN, not Obama, for omitting it. Interestingly, whenever I challenge one of them on that point, they switch from "He's a bad guy for editing it out" to "He's a bad guy for not INSISTING to have read one of the versions that INCLUDES IT!" Classic Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Lincoln wrote two drafts omitting the phrase prior to the speech, including the one he actually READ from, and (although this is still controversial) inserted the phrase spontaneously. Three people requested him to write out and send them copies afterwards, where he included it. He didn't have time to write any MORE versions, because one of the Obama-haters' soulmates, anti-federalist government, nullificationist J.W.B. killed him shortly thereafter. (I love to drive wingnuts crazy by pointing out that their philosophical ancestors used to call Lincoln a tyrant and a usurper, too, and insist that his abolition of slavery was an 'unconstitutional' usurpation of States Rights. So, please, by all means, continue calling Obama the same nasty names the nullificationist crackpots used to call Lincoln. I'm sure Obama is grateful for the comparison.)

3. Obama didn't 'snub' anybody by not showing up to the Gettysburg Address anniversary ceremony. In fact THE ONLY SITTING PRESIDENT to visit Gettysburg DURING the anniversary was Howard Taft, in 1909. (And yes, that includes Saint Reagan.) Media Matters does a good job putting it in perspective, here: (Including Brian Kilmead's pathetic dog-whistle attempt to conflate the 'under God' omission with Obama's 'snub.')

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/11/19/foxs-obama-derangement-syndrome-gettysburg-edit/196967

Daily Kos also did a pretty good job with the latest Profiles In Moronery:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/19/1256769/-Gettysburg-Address-outrage-provides-handy-checklist-of-stupidest-people-in-America?detail=email#



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Obama 'edits' "Under God" from Gettysburg Address: Latest Installment of Obama Derangement Syndrome (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Nov 2013 OP
I just got done with the book Wrapped in the Flag which lunasun Nov 2013 #1
No doubt the JBS blathered about JFK not attending the 100th Anniversary of the Gettysburg Address? TrollBuster9090 Nov 2013 #3
Lyceum Address lunasun Nov 2013 #4
Prescient. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author lunasun Nov 2013 #2
I really think that for these people it's like believing in faries starroute Nov 2013 #6

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
1. I just got done with the book Wrapped in the Flag which
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:59 PM
Nov 2013

documents JBSocirty in the 60s from a person whose parents were birchers and all the
the lies about JFK
These fascist creeps never give up! Notice the anti christian crap in it

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
3. No doubt the JBS blathered about JFK not attending the 100th Anniversary of the Gettysburg Address?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:07 PM
Nov 2013

Or maybe not! If I recall, correctly, the JBS hated Lincoln. The modern JBS (Tea Party) probably would, too, if they didn't have this reason to beat Obama over the head with the Lincoln Memorial (literally).

It's amazing how much the Republican and Democratic parties have switched roles. Republicans used to be the rational, moderate ones. Republicans freed the slaves, making it possible for a black man to become President. And now, just a little over a century later, when the first black President is elected, it's (ironically) the Republican Party that's doing everything possible to sabotage his Presidency, and undo everything he's done. Lincoln would be very embarrassed.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
4. Lyceum Address
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:40 PM
Nov 2013

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?-- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--.....
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

"I hope I am over wary; but if I am not, there is, even now, something of ill-omen, amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfully fearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, though grating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth, and an insult to our intelligence, to deny"

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm
Speech after burning by mob of an AA freeman in MO.

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starroute

(12,977 posts)
6. I really think that for these people it's like believing in faries
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:11 AM
Nov 2013

If they don't clap really hard all the time, and get everyone in the audience to clap along with them, their "god" might cease to exist. And then what could they use to justify their greed and feelings of unwarranted superiority?

If the religious right was actually religious, life around these parts would be a great deal easier.

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