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Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:14 AM

Mouthy, Gun-Toting Law Student Talks Back To Police Officer, Doesn’t Get Shot 51 Times

Wow. Great video, no matter how you feel about guns. H/T to Abovethelaw.

Mouthy, Gun-Toting Law Student Talks Back To Police Officer, Doesn’t Get Shot 51 Times
http://abovethelaw.com/2013/02/mouthy-gun-toting-law-student-talks-back-to-police-officer-doesnt-get-shot-51-times/



Wait - there's more:

But contrast the officer’s behavior here to this recording captured by a black guy named Alvin who was stopped for, as far as anyone can tell, walking around with a backpack.
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Yeah, black guy with a backpack asks about probably cause, and gets threatened with assault. White guy with a firearm does the same thing, and the cop starts bumbling like an idiot.


http://www.thenation.com/article/170413/stopped-and-frisked-being-fking-mutt-video

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Reply Mouthy, Gun-Toting Law Student Talks Back To Police Officer, Doesn’t Get Shot 51 Times (Original post)
mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2013 OP
onehandle Feb 2013 #1
abbeyco Feb 2013 #2
blackspade Feb 2013 #3
dotymed Feb 2013 #4
Jumpin Jack Fletch Feb 2013 #5
mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2013 #7
Jumpin Jack Fletch Feb 2013 #10
xtraxritical Feb 2013 #6
AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #8
WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2013 #9
azmesa207 Feb 2013 #11
Taitertots Feb 2013 #12
Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #13
Mkap Feb 2013 #14
sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #15
truth2power Feb 2013 #16
Gorp Feb 2013 #17

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:16 AM

1. A Tool with a 'tool.' nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:31 AM

2. + 1 billion

being a jackass just to be a jackass. No proof of being a law student so I'll just say mouthy idiot trying to be deliberately provocative.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:32 AM

3. The benifits of being white.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:38 AM

4. Yes, he was a mouthy law student

who knew his rights. I wish that I and all Americans knew their rights. We could stop a lot of this police bullying.
As it now stands, a lawyer will instruct you not to say anything until he/she arrives and picks your wallet.
Too bad we are not all informed of our complete legal rights without having to have big money. Our court system should protect these rights if things go to trial. Instead they advise you to seek counsel....I can't afford it and therefore have limited rights.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:54 AM

5. It wasn't the same police officer

 

That being said, the law student really deserves a kick in the ass, becaise we all know this little twerp is an upper-middle class, pampered asshole.

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Response to Jumpin Jack Fletch (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:33 AM

7. "... we all know this little twerp is an upper-middle class, pampered asshole."

That settles it then.

Duke rape suspect is son of rich & powerful (Lobbyist linked to Bush)

ETA: The downside to rights is that even people you don't like have them, or they're supposed to.

Also, welcome to DU anyway.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:54 PM

10. Thanx for the Welcome

 

And I apologize for letting my Appalachian roots color my view of this.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:29 AM

6. Very scarey.

 

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:58 AM

8. First video was awesome. Guy knew his shit.

Sad that more people don't, regardless of your view on Firearms. If you don't like guns, imagine he had an unopened can of spray paint in his hand. Same scenario. 'Oh you might be a vandal', blah blah.

Second video is fucking infuriating. That should never, ever happen, fuck that cop, he should be fired, and prosecuted

Title 42, U.S.C., Section 14141 makes it unlawful for state or local law enforcement agencies to allow officers to engage in a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives persons of rights protected by the Constitution or U.S. laws. This law, commonly referred to as the Police Misconduct Statute, gives the Department of Justice authority to seek civil remedies in cases where law enforcement agencies have policies or practices that foster a pattern of misconduct by employees. This action is directed against an agency, not against individual officers. The types of issues which may initiate a pattern and practice investigation include:
◾Lack of supervision/monitoring of officers' actions;
◾Lack of justification or reporting by officers on incidents involving the use of force;
◾Lack of, or improper training of, officers; and
◾Citizen complaint processes that treat complainants as adversaries.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:52 AM

9. So, as long as they can't identify you as a felon

and you know your rights, you can walk around intimidating people with impunity.

So, if I were planning to rob a store I could walk around with a gun, and as long as I knew what cases to quote, they couldn't do shit until I actually initiated a crime. That's pretty sensible if you ask me.

Meanwhile, they're allowed to ask you to produce a license when you're driving a car.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:37 PM

11. Just because he is white why the name calling

why all the hostility toward this Young man it the cop that in the wrong it was not illegal for him to carry a gun . He was polite and ask the right questions since when do you want to let police stop you for no reason it makes no difference if he white and the cop doesn't hassle him . If he treats Blacks differently it the cop that in the wrong not the young white guy

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:21 PM

12. Two perfect examples of how corrupt and unjust the police in America have become

No one in New York is free because the police can unconstitutionally detain and search anyone for no reason. According to the link in the OP, 20% of all Terry stops involve police violence.

At least in Portland the police are polite and non-violent when they illegally detain people.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:45 PM

13. To the guy in the first video

Yay, you know the law. Now kindly quit being a jackass and stop carrying your penis compensator around everywhere you go.

To the cops in the second video: I might say that I hope you get lynched, tortured and killed, and your bodies hung in Times Square so people can throw feces at them, but that would be against DU rules. So I'll just say that I hope you never again are allowed to masquerade as police officers.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:21 PM

14. jerk

i agree with what some of the guy says in the video, but just cause you took constitutional law 101 doesn't mean you should be an ass and show your knowledge off to the cops. The cops are merely responding to a complaint...any cop in any part of the nation would of done the same regardless of what is said in constitutional law

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:03 PM

15. I taught my own son

to behave toward the police exactly like the law student did, and I'm not apologetic about it. It works. Unlike the law student I taught him never to provoke the police or to seek confrontations with them. That works too. Bloomberg has implemented a police state policy in New York city that is so unconstitutional it's appalling, but he's a billionaire and thus can do pretty much whatever he wants in America. That's the root of the problem.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:47 PM

16. Ya' know...I don't watch much TV. You could probably count on one hand the shows I watch regularly,

but I do enjoy "Blue Bloods" on Friday nights.

For me it's the Reagan family dynamics, but every time I watch it I have that niggling feeling of discomfort because of the romanticized and unrealistic portrayal of the NYPD as an organization of such integrity.

The Police Commissioner and family patriarch, played by Tom Selleck, is always having to reach into the depths of his soul to find some fair and just solution to a problem. The show's writers should really try to portray the NYPD in all its thuggishness. It's the least we can expect.

Yeah, I know....Selleck is a flaming RWer. At least so I've read.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:32 PM

17. Well, at least the guy knew his stuff!

 

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