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marmar

(77,088 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 08:48 AM Apr 18

He's dropping little clues: The troubling message we are missing from Trump's MAGA rallies


He's dropping little clues: The troubling message we are missing from Trump's MAGA rallies
Trump's revenge plot remains hidden in plain sight

By CHAUNCEY DEVEGA
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED APRIL 18, 2024 5:31AM (EDT)


(Salon) During a rally last Saturday in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania, the last such event before his criminal trial began on Monday in Manhattan, Donald Trump displayed his authoritarian and fascist behavior and beliefs to the extreme. He continued to preach his Big Lie about the 2020 election being “stolen” from him, claimed he is being “persecuted” and tried to intimidate the judges, prosecutors, and other members of law enforcement working to hold him accountable for his actions. Trump, a master propagandist, used the classic tactic of projection, accusing President Biden of being a “demented tyrant” and the real enemy of democracy who would destroy the country if re-elected.

“This election is a choice between the Biden-fascist state or the American republic," he told his MAGA crowd.

....(snip)....

Trump told his thousands of followers gathered before him that he wants the power to determine when presidential elections (and presumably other elections) take place. Trump is literally reading a page from the dictator’s playbook. At the end of his speech in Pennsylvania, Trump, channeling Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, reached a crescendo by threatening those Americans — a group he has previously targeted as “vermin” and “traitors” — who are poisoning the “blood” of the nation:

Together we are taking on some of the most menacing forces and vicious opponents our people have ever seen. They are vicious and they are horrible. But no matter how hateful and corrupt the communists and criminals we’re fighting against may be, you must never forget this nation does not belong to them. This nation belongs to you. This is your home. This is your heritage. And our American liberty is your God-given right. Your God-given right.

From Harrisburg to Pittsburgh, from Easton to Bethlehem, and from Johnstown to Allentown, we stand on the shoulders of American legends, who poured out their blood, sweat and tears, for our rights and for our freedoms. And it’s been a very rough period of time. I’ll tell you what, for this country. It’s never had. I don’t think our country has ever been so low, but we’re going to change it. We’re going to get numbers like nobody’s ever seen. I think we’re going to swamp them. And this isn’t drain the swamp. This is we’re going to swamp them. We’re also going to drain the swamp. It’s a double swamp.


....(snip)....

The message of Trump’s “eclipse” video is rather obvious: he is a type of God and prophet or messiah on Earth, an Ozymandias figure of sorts, whose powers are greater than the sun and such fundamental forces as gravity and the movement of the stars and planets. As some of the country’s leading mental health professionals have repeatedly warned, Donald Trump appears to actually believe in such delusions and absurdities. Based on their behavior, the MAGA political cultists also appear to be believe that their Dear Leader has such superpowers.

Donald Trump wants to be worshipped; his followers want to worship him; this should terrify any reasonable and thinking person in the United States who values their freedom and safety, and that of their loved ones and other people they care about. ............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/04/18/hes-dropping-little-clues-the-troubling-message-we-are-missing-from-maga-rallies/





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He's dropping little clues: The troubling message we are missing from Trump's MAGA rallies (Original Post) marmar Apr 18 OP
That he's gotten this far is the most horrifying part. calimary Apr 18 #1
Yes, it is incomprehensible to me PatSeg Apr 18 #6
OTOH NJCher Apr 18 #13
Yes, I've gotten in the habit of looking at the people PatSeg Apr 18 #21
Sounds to me like a Steven Miller speech. gab13by13 Apr 18 #2
Those Millers, especially Mitch with his hypnotizing, magic sing-along balls. jaxexpat Apr 18 #12
He should have listened to the imaginary General who said "Never fail uphill, me boys...." Blue Owl Apr 18 #3
Trump was so pleased with himself PatSeg Apr 18 #7
Trump is Hitler reincarnated. SergeStorms Apr 18 #4
I believe it. Mr. Mustard 2023 Apr 18 #5
I had to look it up. Hitler died 4-30-45, The defendant born 6-14-46. ms liberty Apr 18 #10
It takes a little time.... SergeStorms Apr 18 #18
Incubation period is longer for devils. nt. druidity33 Apr 19 #22
I Have Also Thought that Trump Might Be Hitler Reincarnated Myself. panfluteman Apr 18 #17
I was being more.... SergeStorms Apr 18 #19
I don't know. He reminds me of Lonesome Rhodes from "A Face in the Crowd" movie from 1957. Texin Apr 18 #8
i agree he is unravling but we need to stay vigil et tu Apr 18 #11
a very real and present danger. Mr.Bee Apr 18 #9
Fascist playbook. usonian Apr 18 #14
You can tell which parts are written by Stephen Miller... ECL213 Apr 18 #15
Really nothing new....yes needs to be reported frequently, but it's nothing new PortTack Apr 18 #16
"It's never had." Wednesdays Apr 18 #20

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
6. Yes, it is incomprehensible to me
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:23 AM
Apr 18

especially because he isn't really very good at this. His message is poorly delivered and barely coherent. He rambles on and on, often mispronouncing simple words and rarely making sense. Yet people still follow him.

NJCher

(35,709 posts)
13. OTOH
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 11:18 AM
Apr 18

if you're really watching, you'll see people leave his rallies early. He's had numerous ones with low attendance.,

A couple days ago one was posted with the guy to his left openly yawning and his friend was trying to lay his/her head on his shoulder so they could sleep.

Instead of "rallies," I now call them "reallies?."

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
21. Yes, I've gotten in the habit of looking at the people
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 01:21 PM
Apr 18

behind Trump and I must say, most of them do look really bored. I don't think they care all that much about him or what he's saying, they like being part of whatever the hell these rallies are. They've found their tribe I suppose.

Still for a lot of them, they go to a lot of trouble to attend these freak shows. There are plenty of other more interesting things they could be doing with their time - attend a sporting event, go out to eat, go to the movies, go fishing, watch paint dry.

jaxexpat

(6,842 posts)
12. Those Millers, especially Mitch with his hypnotizing, magic sing-along balls.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 11:15 AM
Apr 18

Enter Trump: a paraphrase by Stephen Miller

My dearest MAGAt, come closer to Donnie so I can whisper
Sweet words of epismetology in your ear and speak to you of
The pompitous of love. Even though our road is rough and
Long, for you to leave me at this time, MAGAt darling, must surely
Be wrong. So come back and reconsider one more thing. Donnie
Is the only one to make your little heart sing.
Enter Maurice (sorta)
Steve Miller Band

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
7. Trump was so pleased with himself
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:30 AM
Apr 18

that he repeated "me boys" several times. Jon Stewart said apparently Robert E. Lee was a leprechaun!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
4. Trump is Hitler reincarnated.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:07 AM
Apr 18

That's not hyperbole, either. He's an evil, divisive and destructive man, capable of Hitler's worst inclinations, or even more deplorable.

And his MAGAts adore him. They probably dream of running concentration camps, of being the very tools Hitler used to carry out his "final solution." Only they won't stop at Jewish people. They're only limited by anyone who isn't exactly like them, and that equates to about 65% of Americans.

Everyone should fear Mango Mussolini and his cult. His talk of "retribution" is real. And his cult cries out for blood. These people are sick, and given the chance they'll carry out Trump's darkest wishes. Believe it.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
17. I Have Also Thought that Trump Might Be Hitler Reincarnated Myself.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 11:41 AM
Apr 18

My sister, who introduced me to DU, calls Trump Cheetolini. And the basic time frame for Hitler reincarnating as Trump fits - Hitler commits suicide at the end of April 1945 and Cheetolini is born in June of 1946, giving him a little over a year to hang our in the astral world before reincarnating. Now the next step for me would be to compare the natal astrology charts of both Hitler and Trump, to see if I can find an abundance of similar planetary configurations or planetary signatures linking the two charts, especially those suggesting a cause and effect relationship. Ethnically speaking, both Trump and Hitler have a German family background.

It would indeed be one of the great ironies of history if the United States, having fought so hard to defeat fascism in World War II, finally succumbed to the very fascism it fought against when the dreaded dictator was reborn as an American citizen, one of their own.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. I was being more....
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 12:19 PM
Apr 18

allegorical than literal, but I'm not one to argue the legitimacy of Trump's evilness.

He's every bloodthirsty, heartless, cruel, soulless son-of-a-bitch rolled into one.

Take care.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
8. I don't know. He reminds me of Lonesome Rhodes from "A Face in the Crowd" movie from 1957.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 09:51 AM
Apr 18

The character was two bit drunk who was dragged out of the drunk tank and hired to be on a radio program...
He was a nasty, narcissistic megalomaniac who managed to hide (for a while) most of his most reprehensible tendencies, but by the end of the movie people were falling away from him. That's what is happening with TFG. More and more, as he becomes more and more incomprehensible and keeps tossing word salads around onstage, people are drifting away. He is by no means "a master propagandist" as Salon extols, but more like those holy rollers you see on street corners in busy cities preaching to the passersby who are trying to get out of hearing range of their curbside sermons.

Don't get me wrong. I don't take him lightly. I (sadly) have lived in Texas all my life and I've always known (and known some of those folks) who would be happy to sign back into the Confederate Army if they were allowed to do so. I've never taken the likes of the George Wallaces or the northern versions of their ilk like TFG lightly. They can and have done a great deal of harm and the pendulum swings back and forth routinely in life. We make progress for a while, but it's inevitable that there's a backlash that takes time to undo. But I feel like there's the beginnings of a changing sentiment with respect to this despicable cretin megaphone mouth, and the more incoherent his rants become the more he's going through the great unraveling and people are beginning to see. He will always have a contingent following but they're beginning to dwindle (and die).

Mr.Bee

(185 posts)
9. a very real and present danger.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 10:07 AM
Apr 18

It's not the one man, but who he brings with him, and his supporters all think they're going to get something out of it, barbed wire.

usonian

(9,849 posts)
14. Fascist playbook.
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 11:19 AM
Apr 18

His ghostwriters have been reading Hitler speeches.

Racism and anti-semitism are powerful, and hard for any unscrupulous and manipulative con-man to pass on.

ECL213

(214 posts)
15. You can tell which parts are written by Stephen Miller...
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 11:27 AM
Apr 18

There is no way Donny Diaperload could name six towns in Pennsylvania on his own. Such projection...does he even know what fascism is? it's just another word he knows is bad somehow.

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