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Indian-American woman, a US citizen since 8, told she must spend $345 for naturalization papers to (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2016 OP
Next Thing To Do After Liberal Supreme Court Justices Are Sworn In: Vogon_Glory Oct 2016 #1
My thoughts exactly, vogon. Nitram Oct 2016 #3
This is unconscionable. Nitram Oct 2016 #2
This doesn't seem like a voter suppression issue to me. kristopher Oct 2016 #4
Maybe true, but greymattermom Oct 2016 #6
Because people have to go and rummage. Igel Oct 2016 #8
Completely agree on every point. Ron Obvious Oct 2016 #7
Do we know that she drives? crim son Oct 2016 #9
Regardless, some might ask why so much red tape is necessary. nomorenomore08 Oct 2016 #10
The underlying problem is our fractured system of recording births and deaths. kristopher Oct 2016 #11
Agreed. n/t nomorenomore08 Oct 2016 #12
Losing a naturalization certificate treestar Oct 2016 #13
It happens..but I wonder why they do not have a photocopy HipChick Oct 2016 #14
REC. riversedge Oct 2016 #5

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
1. Next Thing To Do After Liberal Supreme Court Justices Are Sworn In:
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 07:45 AM
Oct 2016

Last edited Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:24 PM - Edit history (1)

A new Voting Rights Act, one with teeth.

Sorry, Wisconsinites, but thanks to Scott Walker and his bought-and-paid-for Republican legislators, it looks like you'll have to join the habitual scofflaws like Alabama, my native Texas, North Carolina, and Arizona in facing Justice Department scrutiny.

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
2. This is unconscionable.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:23 AM
Oct 2016

I'd suggest every US citizen have a valid passport for emergencies, including I.D.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. This doesn't seem like a voter suppression issue to me.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:16 AM
Oct 2016

She's lived in WI for 4 years, but still hasn't obtained a WI driver's license? State law says new residents must apply for a WI license within 60 days. Also, the new FEDERAL GUIDELINES on driving licenses are extremely strict and not subject to being waived. Proof of citizenship or legal residency in the form of a birth certificate or naturalization papers is mandatory unless the state has a separate class of license for non documented workers.

She needed to get her naturalization papers years ago. There is no excuse.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
6. Maybe true, but
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:09 PM
Oct 2016

why are they so difficult to get? If all this id is required, there should be an easy way to get valid copies of these documents.

Igel

(35,303 posts)
8. Because people have to go and rummage.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 01:15 PM
Oct 2016

And a lot of the naturalization/immigration budget is fee funded.

The Real ID act is at the root of the problem, but it's years old. Some don't want to look at the but scream "disenfranchised" as a way of reigniting the struggle against it. Others don't care what the real problem is, something is in their way and they blame the most salient, most accessible foe.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
9. Do we know that she drives?
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 06:19 PM
Oct 2016

I ask, because I didn't get my license until I was thirty-five. Seriously. I've always had a passport and so my non-driving status never was much of an issue until I moved into the country and couldn't walk everywhere.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
10. Regardless, some might ask why so much red tape is necessary.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 10:52 PM
Oct 2016

And if one needed a subtle way of discouraging "certain folks" from voting...

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
11. The underlying problem is our fractured system of recording births and deaths.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 01:43 PM
Oct 2016

We would be wise to move into the modern world where all births and deaths are recorded by local governments and shared with designated agencies in state and federal government.

The lack of such a system in favor of one that relies on hospital and church records kept exclusively at those institutions is a major problem in many areas.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. Losing a naturalization certificate
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:19 PM
Oct 2016

is pretty dumb too. And then not immediately replacing it. Also I guess she never traveled and never got a US passport. That wasn't smart either.

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