Ever hear of the New Apostolic Reformation/NAR? They're the Religious Right driving the bus off the

[bobthedrummer]

road of democracy. Interestingly, for us boomers this began in those days after WWII and the beginning of the Cold War and empire collapses it was called The Latter Rain Movement of 1948.

Below is a starting point on NAR from Wikipedia.
Latter Rain post-World War II movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latter_Rain_%28post-World_War_II_movement%29

[bobthedrummer]

1. More links to New Apostolic Reformation centers and leadership history-in no particular order.

Aglow North Central Region
http://aglownothcentral.wordpress.com

The Milwaukee based Jesus People and their colonies.
http://allsavedfreakband.com/jesus_movement.htm

New Apostolic Reformation
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/dt3_new_apostolic_reformation.html

John Robert Stevens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robert_Stevens

[bobthedrummer]

2. More Wisconsin and neighbors NAR centers and people

The Milwaukee Evangelistic Temple Rev. A.C.Valdez Jr-my maternal grandmother took me to the Milwaukee Evanelistic Temple and its various camps many times.
Rev. Valdez dark side
http://suspiciousberean.blogspot.com/2010/02/faith-healer-cashes-in-on-brutal.html

A.C. Valdez made his world headquarters at the Milwaukee Evangelistic Temple-fittingly, a former theater
The Zenith Theater
http://pantherfile.uwm.edu/mjprigge/public/milwaukeecinemagraveyard/zenith.html

Scott Walker's dad got the call to come here into my home of Wisconsin, fwiw. They are NAR zealots, imo.

[bobthedrummer]

3. Love and Death In the House of Prayer (Jeff Tietz 1-21-2014 Rolling Stone article)

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/love-and-death-in-the-house-of-prayer-20140121

Ralph Underwager/Hollida Wakefield
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Underwager

Bishop Accountability
http://bishopaccountability.org


Yes, its a metaconspiracy-for real, isn't it?

[bobthedrummer]

4. "Mom" Beall, Sid Roth, Yoko Ono's second husband Anthony Cox and daughter Kyoko

The New Apostolic Reformation dominion is having it's day today just as it's leadership contemplated in the past 7-8 decades imo.

These people are the new self-proclaimed prophets and apostles, RW spinning The Day of the Lord they are ecumenical and quite an influential group-regardless of all else.

Myrtle Dorthea Beall and The Latter Rain Movement of 1948 (Archibald Thackeray October 2013 post)
http://lrm1948.blogspot.com/2013/05/mom-beall-and-bethesda.html

Sid Roth/It's Supernatural
http://sidroth.org

Anthony Cox, Kyoko and The Way (Jim Calio 2-3-86 People article)
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20092860,00.html

What do you think, DUers?

[bobthedrummer]

5. Jerry Falwell, The Bakers/CBN/700 Club, other televangelists-Pharisees! All after the almighty $.

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The commonality, as well as the context, remains anchored to the Latter Rain New Apostolic Reformation in a 21st Century that now has a Caliphate in the Levant, Attorney General Holder still obsfucating for master, not pursuing justice in the land of competively bidden torture and completely corrupted leadership, the lost souls of the money mangers of Mammon-but send in a love contribution and get a prayer ensign or something in return with a sase. To the legacy of Falwell and his Bush/Cheney religious fascism fundamentalist Liberty Univesity-woe to ye scribes and Pharisees!!!

Liberty University (Wikipedia entry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_University

Jack and Trisha FROST.
Brother Frank BASS of the Wilson Street offshoot of the Milwaukee Jesus People/MJP and the Milwaukee Jesus People's/MJP's major founder
James "Jim" Michael PALOSAARI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Palosaari

The House of Affirmation retailed pedophilia in the guise of helping damaged souls. The NAR is ecumenical!
The House of Affirmation's Director/cofounder was Rev. Thomas A. KANE
More about him and the House of Affirmation later.

[bobthedrummer]

6. Some more links about the New Apostolic Reformation for those of US pursuing the truth.

Some of the links may have biased posters-today the facts cannot be spun without challenge. I've been saying enough with the political correctness nonsense here since 2001.

Pentecostal, Charismatic, Third Wave Movements
http://www.believershome.com/html/pentecostal-_charismatic-_third_wave_movements.html#Ourposition

Christian Zionism: Dispensationalism And The Roots Of Sectarian Theology (by Rev. Steven Sizer 2000 Information Clearing House article)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4531.htm

Seven Mountains (2010 Herescope post)
http://herescope.blogspot.com/2010/06/seven-mountains.html

Nelson Bunker Hunt: Another Jesuit For Another Gospel (10-15-11 News 4 The Masses post)
http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/tag/nelson-bunker-hunt

Franklin Graham questions Christian commitment of believers who Vote for Obama (2-25-12 Daily Kos post by Christian Dem in NC)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/25/1068180/-Franklin-Graham-questions-Christian-commitment-of-believers-who-vote-for-Obama

There was an extended German family that got assistance from Billy Graham and his associates when they arrived here in 1951. I don't know if they were part of the many Germans sponsored in things like Operation PAPERCLIP. The career of the founder of Cross Technologies, Heinz W. Wegener, is interesting with the Billy Graham connection.
http://www.crosstechnologies.com/founder.php

Any thoughts about the NAR on this Ash Wednesday, DU?

[bobthedrummer]

7. My brother in Christ, Scott Walker, Governor of the State I live in, is running for POTUS.

Consider the role of the New Apostolic Reformation and similar doctrines in regards to his political career, as well as similar politicians.

God in Wisconsin: Scott Walker's "Obedience" (Diana Butler Bass 2-25-11 Huffington Post)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diana-butler-bass/god-in-wisconsin-scott-wa_b_828405.html

Scott Walker's Toxic Racial Politics (Alec MacGillis 6-15-14 New Republic)
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118145/scott-walkers-toxic-racial-politics

The Preacher's Kid (Cindy Kilkenny 4-8-13 Urban Milwaukee)
http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2013/04/08/the-preachers-kid

Unannounced POTUS candidate Walker is a member of Meadowbrook Church in Wauwatosa.
Meadowbrook Church
http://www.meadowbrook-church.com

Meadowbrook Church was "planted" by Mark and Beth Seversen. Beth teaches at Wheaton.
http://www.wheaton.edu/Academics/Faculty/S/Beth-Seversen

Share your thoughts about the NAR DUers.

[bobthedrummer]

8. The NAR is influential in Christian media, its "force multiplier"-sad, but true imho.

Christian Media Companies (Wikipedia page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Christian_media_companies

What do you think, DUers?

[Judi Lynn]

9. Good grief! Thanks for providing the information we can well use to underststand this movement.

Had no idea there were so many of these people. The word "extreme" doesn't seem to really cover them.

Appreciate the information you've put at our fingertips to sort through this. It's definitely a world, a system within our world. I have known similar, smaller "worlds," and they are NOT happy people.

[bobthedrummer]

10. It is truly worldwide, and ecumenical, Judi Lynn. I'm still learning about this and how it has

influenced so many people (including self and family).

These once fringe cult doctrines have become so powerful because of the 24/7 programming of their belief systems and the massive post-WWll "infiltration" of well established organized religions.

There is quite a historic NAR geo spatial relevance to my neck of the woods for some reason. Here are some more NAR related links for you and others.

"You shall not make my Father's House a house of merchandise..." yet this seems what the NAR has done in the context of sustainability imho.

Crusade for World Revival (Selwyn Hughes)
http://www.cwr.org/uk/home

Harvest Army World Revival
http://www.harvestarmy.org/event/world-revival-crusade

Revival Crusade International, Inc.
http://www.revivalcrusadeintl.org/index.html

Christian Revival Crusade Inc (Ken Roberts)
http://christianrevivalcrusade.com/christianrevivalcrusade/Christian_Revival_Crusade_Inc.html

Maranatha Revival Crusade (Don Stanton)
http://maranathamrc.com

Add to this thread, DU.

[dovesheart777]

11. Needing Some Important Info From You Please

Recently on FB I found a very passionate lady sharing the gospel on a bus. She was loud and it appeared scriptural she was on par but my spirit kept telling me something was wrong. Besides the fact she would occasionally spout off in tongues (with no interpretation) which bothered me and her sing song style of preaching (kind of like Jimmy Swaggart) I just could not put my finger on it. So I posted the video on my group.....most people where fine with it, thought she was amazing. Of course now I am starting to doubt what I felt and feeling horrible but I never set out to judge or even desired what I felt in my spirit. Anyways I kept researching, I came upon the girls home fb page and she had more pictures of her breasts hanging out than an exposed plucked chicken....flags went back up, then I found a video of her rapping the gospel (well not being a rap fan and really knowing where it came from having done some serious research I was even less impressed) I also found a video where she starts to talk like a normal person and then go's into that sing song cadence style Jimmy Swaggart preaching........have mercy. As I progress in my research I find out she is Harvest Army World Revival under Bishop K.D. Collins. My understanding is they are pentecostal but my belief is they are NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) or a combo of the two.....either way it spells Ecumenical movement to me. Would you be so kind as to let me know what you know about these people as I desire to bring truth and awareness about it. Any and all information would be greatly appreciated.

Love in Christ Jesus

Dove (aka) Laurellynne