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polly7

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Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:05 AM Feb 2015

Engelhardt :Remembrance of Wars Past

By Tom Engelhardt
Source: TomDispatch.com
February 4, 2015

Well, it’s one, two, three, look at that amputee,
At least it’s below the knee,
Could have been worse, you see.
Well, it’s true your kids look at you differently,
But you came in an ambulance instead of a hearse,
That’s the phrase of the trade,
It could have been worse.

— First verse of a Vietnam-era song written by U.S. Air Force medic Bob Boardman off Country Joe McDonald’s “I-Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-to-Die Rag”


Among the eeriest things about reading Stone’s Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia coverage, 14 years into the next century, is how resonantly familiar so much of what he wrote still seems, how twenty-first-century it all is. It turns out that the national security state hasn’t just been repeating things they’ve done unsuccessfully for the last 13 years, but for the last 60. Let me offer just a few examples from his newsletter. I think you’ll get the idea.

* With last June’s collapse of the American-trained and -armed Iraqi army and recent revelations about its 50,000 “ghost soldiers” in mind, here’s Stone on the Laotian army in January 1961: “It is the highest paid army in Asia and variously estimated (the canny Laotians have never let us know the exact numbers, perhaps lest we check on how much the military payroll is diverted into the pockets of a few leaders) at from 23,000 to 30,000. Yet it has never been able to stand up against handfuls of guerrillas and even a few determined battalions like those mustered by Captain Kong Le.”

* On ISIS’s offensive in Iraq last year, or the 9/11 attacks, or just about any other development you want to mention in our wars since then, our gargantuan bureaucracy of 17 expanding intelligence outfits has repeatedly been caught short, so consider Stone’s comments on the Tet Offensive of February 1968. At a time when America’s top commander in Vietnam had repeatedly assured Americans that the Vietnamese enemy was losing, the North Vietnamese and the National Liberation Front (the “Vietcong”) launched attacks on just about every major town and city in South Vietnam, including the U.S. Embassy in Saigon: “We still don’t know what hit us. The debris is not all in Saigon and Hue. The world’s biggest intelligence apparatus was caught by surprise.”

* On our drone assassination and other air campaigns as a global war not on, but for — i.e., to recruit — terrorists, including our present bombing campaigns in Iraq and Syria, here’s Stone in February 1968: “When the bodies are really counted, it will be seen that one of the major casualties was our delusion about victory by air power: all that boom-boom did not keep the enemy from showing up at Langvei with tanks… The whole country is slowly being burnt down to ‘save it.’ To apply scorched-earth tactics to one’s own country is heroic; to apply it to a country one claims to be saving is brutal and cowardly… It is we who rally the people to the other side.” And here he is again in May 1970: “Nowhere has air power, however overwhelming and unchallenged, been able to win a war.”


Full article: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/remembrance-of-wars-past/

(And yes, I'm fully aware that our hands aren't clean in much of this either).
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I.F.Stone sort of misses on one point JayhawkSD Feb 2015 #1
 

JayhawkSD

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1. I.F.Stone sort of misses on one point
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 11:44 AM
Feb 2015

Regarding the Tet offensive, North Vietnam actually was losing in terms of battlefield tactics. Tet was one last ditch effort to gain a battlefield victory by hitting us in so many places that we would not be able to concentrate artillery and air support. It was only partially successful in that respect, but it did give the American media an oportunity for an intense anti-war campaign. They used it to show that we were losing the war, which we were not. We were winning every battle we fought, but were losing a counterinsurgency campaign for the simple reason that counterinsurgency fundamentally does not work.

The world’s biggest intelligence apparatus was caught by surprise, not in saying that North Vietnam was losing the war on the battlefields, which they were, but by missing the preparations being made for the Tet offensive.

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