Angela Merkel warns Russia could seek to destabilise 'whole of the European peaceful order'

[Old Nick]

Source: The Telegraph (UK)

By Roland Oliphant in Dnepropetrovsk
5:41PM GMT 17 Nov 2014

Russia could seek to destabilise vast areas of eastern Europe if it is not challenged in Ukraine, Angela Merkel warned on Monday.

The strongly worded statement came as Ukraine's president warned of a resumption of "total war" in the strife-torn country's east.

In a speech to Sydney's Lowry Institute for International Policy Studies, the German Chancellor said Russia's annexation of Crimea and subsequent destabilisation of eastern Ukraine "called the whole of the European peaceful order into question".

"This isn't just about Ukraine," she said. "This is about Moldova, this is about Georgia, and if this continues then one will have to ask about Serbia and one will have to ask about the countries of the Western Balkans."

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/angela-merkel/11236622/Angela-Merkel-warns-Russia-could-seek-to-destabilise-whole-of-the-European-peaceful-order.html

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Rock on, Angela!

[jakeXT]

1. I bet all spy agencies were listening

The DPA news agency said German Chancellor Merkel visited Putin's Brisbane hotel and spent nearly six hours in a small conference room (pictured) on Saturday at unscheduled, closed-door talks reported to have focused on Ukraine.

DPA reported that her one-to-one talks with Putin lasted for two hours before they were joined by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker. The three-way talks then ran for around four hours.

http://www.dw.de/merkel-putin-talk-as-g20-debates-ukraine/a-18067417

[jeff47]

2. No, that would be you, Ms. Merkel.

I'm sure Russia's destabilizing effect can be cured by more austerity. By countries other than Germany.

[jakeXT]

3. TTIP to the rescue

Merkel urges Europeans to speed up TTIP trade talks with U.S.

SYDNEY - German Chancellor Angela Merkel urged European nations on Sunday to speed up their negotiations with the United States over a Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) agreement between the U.S. and EU.

Speaking a news conference in Sydney following the Group of 20 Summit in Brisbane, Australia, Merkel said the EU should negotiate in a "speedy and determined" way with the U.S. to complete the trade deal.

Merkel's remarks follow comments by British Prime Minister David Cameron, who spoke out at the G20 Summit against opponents of the trade deal, where Cameron, Merkel, U.S. President Barack Obama and French President Francois Hollande met for talks on the TTIP.

The TTIP, which has been strongly opposed by trade unions, would eliminate all tariff barriers between the U.S. and EU nations.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/25530100/merkel-urges-europeans-to-speed-up-ttip-trade-talks-with-u-s/

[cosmicone]

4. Yeah yeah

Russia will put rogaine in your nair bottles and nair in your rogain bottles.

[Old Nick]

5. Why do you seek to justify the despotic actions and attitudes of Czar Vlad?

Also, is your choice of avatar a none-too-subtle way of associating Hillary Clinton with anti-Americanism?

[uhnope]

7. The Putin "supporters" often have Warren and Sanders promo on their signatures

as a way of cloaking their fake progressivism with real democratic American politicians

[Old Nick]

10. Sanders isn't a democrat (small d)?

I strongly disagree! (Same with Warren.)

[uhnope]

12. OK!

[CJCRANE]

11. Some of them have been posting on DU for over 10 years. Putin's moles.

Sleeper agents hiding in plain sight, not mentioning anything about Putin or Russia until this year they decloak and reveal their true allegience!

Either that or some people don't believe the neocon propaganda and have a different opinion than the crowd.

[Comrade Grumpy]

17. Careful. I almost took you seriously there for a moment. Your first sentence, that is.

Was about to post something about the paranoid style in American politics.

[uhnope]

19. whether they're old members living in neocon past or new ones paid by the Kremlin

either way they are fools for defending Putin's hateful dictatorship for the vain reason of not wanting to be "different" than the "crowd"

[CJCRANE]

20. It's nothing to do with wanting to be different. I didn't want to be different in the Bush era

and I don't want to be different now. It just happens when you disagree with the majority.

I just post my opinion.

[uhnope]

21. well it's Russia that has a neocon majority now so really they are agreeing with the neocon majority

when they make their absurd little Putin-pushing posts

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. +1. If only we could rec individual posts.

[uhnope]

6. This is a BFD. Merkel has been the most patient world leader in dealing with Putin.

Putin ran away from the G20 with his Napoleonic ego bruised after he was disrespected to his face by other world leaders. Not good news--Putin will probably crack down on democratic forces in Russia and get more belligerent in Ukraine.

[jakeXT]

9. They talked for 6 hours .. hardly running away /nt

[uhnope]

13. he left early and took his toys

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-may-have-left-g20-early-russian-tv-hes-still-hero-284871

[joshcryer]

23. He quit after realizing he wasn't getting anywhere.

There will be more sanctions soon. On the very oligarchs that are propping Putin up.

[jakeXT]

26. It's secret and we peasants aren't told /nt

[jtuck004]

8. We could give them lessons. We started a war without end, and have been de-stabilizing

countries and fucking over their most vulnerable people for years. Hell, we even burn 'em to death to save 'em.

In a Shock Doctrine sort of way.

[stevenleser]

14. Maybe, but it doesn't have anything to do with the OP. nt

[CJCRANE]

15. Except this reminds me of how we cornered Saddam. We didn't give him a chance to back down.

It was all a foregone conclusion. We just ratcheted up the pressure.

And we know now that the negotiations and weapons inspectors were a charade.

When western politicians and media speak with one monolithic voice, as they're doing now, and did then, I tend to think there's a prearranged plan in effect.

[jakeXT]

16. Her Op-ed from 03

Schroeder Doesn''t Speak for All Germans
...

Two things have been highlighted once again by the EU decision. First, the danger from Iraq is not fictitious but real. Second, working not against but jointly with the United States, Europe must take more responsibility for maintaining international pressure on Saddam Hussein. As is argued in the EU summit declaration, this means advocating military force as the last resort in implementing U.N. resolutions.

It is true that war must never become a normal way of resolving political disputes. But the history of Germany and Europe in the 20th century in particular certainly teaches us this: that while military force cannot be the normal continuation of politics by other means, it must never be ruled out, or even merely questioned -- as has been done by the German federal government -- as the ultimate means of dealing with dictators. Anyone who rejects military action as a last resort weakens the pressure that needs to be maintained on dictators and consequently makes a war not less but more likely.

http://www.welt.de/print-welt/article411719/Schroeder-Doesnt-Speak-for-All-Germans.html

[ozone_man]

22. That is damning and telling.

She lies along with the neo-cons, like Bush and Blair, and now Obama.

[joshcryer]

25. U.N. Resolution 1441 did not enable war.

It enabled inspectors who were given unfettered access as Hans Blix reported. Paragraph 12 of Resolution 1441 required that all UNSC states reconvene on the matter.

[joshcryer]

24. Saddam backed down.

Unfettered access of the inspectors. Bush merely claimed that Saddam wasn't cooperating. Which was patently false. Saddam provided 10k pages of documents.