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rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:56 PM Mar 2012

BREAKING.....Current TV Dismisses Keith Olbermann

Source: New York Times

Current TV, the fledgling liberal cable channel, said Friday that it had terminated its relationship with Keith Olbermann, the anchor that it hired just one year ago.

Mr. Olbermann will not be given an opportunity to sign off. Starting Friday night, the former New York governor Eliot Spitzer will replace him at 8 p.m.

Read more: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/current-tv-dismisses-keith-olbermann/?src=tp

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BREAKING.....Current TV Dismisses Keith Olbermann (Original Post) rsmith6621 Mar 2012 OP
This makes me sad. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #1
Damn, something for Billo to gloat about tonight. MARCUSCO Mar 2012 #33
If I win the lottery tonight, I'm buying Keith his own damn network. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #38
I second that peace frog Mar 2012 #83
According to an individual with knowledge of the situation,.......... nedbal Mar 2012 #116
Sounds like he's in some kind of crisis mode. polichick Mar 2012 #123
Keith says they broke his contract to save money. Bette Noir Mar 2012 #146
?!?! nt xchrom Mar 2012 #2
wow! wonder what happened. ejpoeta Mar 2012 #3
Their statement: ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #10
Translation Jack Rabbit Mar 2012 #32
I don't think that was it. They hired him for that. Apparently he kept going at it Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #40
I suspect... FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #53
Cenk is even less of a partisan. I have a feeling that wasn't it. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #54
Whatever Keith's other qualities, he's always had a reputation as hard to work with. TheWraith Mar 2012 #82
As I recall, we don't agree on much. However, I could not agree more. FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #90
wow Broderick Mar 2012 #34
Wonder why?? n/t OhioChick Mar 2012 #4
Article in the NYT attributed it to "unauthorized absences" Jester Messiah Mar 2012 #49
He's taken more days off than anyone on the air I can think of... whathehell Mar 2012 #118
unfortunately, I think you're right. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #122
WHAAT????? Taverner Mar 2012 #5
Wha??? supernova Mar 2012 #6
Statement from Current TV oberliner Mar 2012 #7
Goddamnit cindyperry2010 Mar 2012 #8
damn Beaverhausen Mar 2012 #9
I think his mom's death put him in a bad way n/t grasswire Mar 2012 #17
I have thought that all along when recent criticisms cropped up Samantha Mar 2012 #114
He's starting to piss me off...How many people get gigs like his? whathehell Mar 2012 #126
I will tell you why I said that Samantha Mar 2012 #161
I agree with you 100% I worked for a major studio and worked for the same kind of people as you BigBearJohn Mar 2012 #172
+1 shireen Apr 2012 #202
And Rachel did hardly ANY coverage of Occupy Wall Street while Keith did pretty much the BEST. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #162
That is true... whathehell Mar 2012 #195
I could not agree with you more! SkyDaddy7 Apr 2012 #205
ditto Auntie Bush Mar 2012 #152
Sonofabitch.... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #11
I'm so sorry. grasswire Mar 2012 #12
Spitzer has a few issues. libinnyandia Mar 2012 #24
Yes, a fine man indeed. obxhead Mar 2012 #41
Heh Jester Messiah Mar 2012 #51
Which has a greater affect on the country- OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #74
Apples and oranges. obxhead Mar 2012 #80
how about all the crimes that the OWS people committed? provis99 Mar 2012 #96
are OWS people bilking folks out of millions of dollars? frylock Mar 2012 #133
You mean the ones Olbermann debunked -- and Breitbart pulled from his site... johnfunk Mar 2012 #140
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #194
This post has my Seal of Approval. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #204
Awesome pintobean Apr 2012 #206
Not that they have a damn thing to do with Spitzer being a "fine man," obxhead Mar 2012 #149
Got it. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #165
We can find better people to speak for us. obxhead Mar 2012 #166
Fair enough. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #186
Spitzer was the only one with balls enough to take on Wall Street. FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #57
spitzer's balls took spitzer down frylock Mar 2012 #134
Ha!!! nt and-justice-for-all Mar 2012 #156
Indeed, it was hubris. FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #197
He is a terrible person and an example of the worst in american politics CBGLuthier Mar 2012 #87
people want to beleive in heroes.. frylock Mar 2012 #135
The dude has people problems... My Pet Goat Mar 2012 #13
I think he has those only with people... YvonneCa Mar 2012 #79
I Agree - Like He Was Asking to Be Fired otohara Mar 2012 #109
I self-deleted my own post just a few seconds ago SamG Mar 2012 #14
could be. But, the fact that they won't let him sign off - makes me think it Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #20
Let's face it. We love how he thinks and what he says...but Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #15
*sigh* Maybe the Keith just doesn't work well with others. RandySF Mar 2012 #16
Something that is very common regardless of where one works. Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #26
Bummer ~nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #18
I'm reminded of an old adage from school days: "too smart for your own good..." hlthe2b Mar 2012 #19
He will be missed, but... DemzRock Mar 2012 #21
Did he welcome Bill Press? Stephanie, I can .. SamG Mar 2012 #23
I agree. FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #60
So little "news" and so much banter SamG Mar 2012 #72
I'd rather watch Stephanie than Morning Joke or any of the other cable "news" swill johnfunk Mar 2012 #141
Kieth Olbermann has an addiction to th TRUTH, honest, factual reporting. crunch60 Mar 2012 #112
The first thing I noticed was his absense during the debates way back at the beginning. It seemed jwirr Mar 2012 #29
I'm not surprised. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #22
Can you say a bit more about what you know re: KO's tantrums? 50000feet Mar 2012 #37
I don't have the links Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #50
Odd. FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #61
Did he mention what Keith was like? I can't imagine this "DIVA" personality people says he has. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #98
He never mentioned Keith's "Diva-ness." He DID mention FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #196
Thanks for your swift reply. 50000feet Mar 2012 #68
Very sorry to see this happen. I do like Spitzer though - think he knows a lot about the banksters jwirr Mar 2012 #25
Keith was my hero for years! I still love his style of SamG Mar 2012 #27
I'm going to say it and don't flame me for doing so but... LynneSin Mar 2012 #28
YMMV, I guess -- but I do agree... johnfunk Mar 2012 #143
This kills me. We need every Liberal voice we can get PlanetBev Mar 2012 #30
Now, Do You All Understand Why Rachel Didn't Follow Him??? Yavin4 Mar 2012 #31
Rachel is better off on MSNBC and always has been. SamG Mar 2012 #39
He never has had one, has he? Samantha Mar 2012 #115
But, he's an awesome rapper, yo! Stardust Mar 2012 #201
Yes, we understand. She was and is under contract with MSNBC. GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #95
Rachel seems to have a much more even temperament and she's every BIT as smart as Keith if not whathehell Mar 2012 #129
He has become Barry Gibb. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #35
I hear Keith is a LOOSE CANNON!!!! bigdarryl Mar 2012 #36
I had a sneaking suspicion something was up Warpy Mar 2012 #42
Never really a fan of Keith, won't really miss him!! center rising Mar 2012 #43
I'll just say it - chrisa Mar 2012 #44
I wish that Current TV had a subscription internet option. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #45
Oh I like Spitzer. applegrove Mar 2012 #46
DEAR AL AND JOEL... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #47
Sad news peace frog Mar 2012 #86
Poor Keith. bluedigger Mar 2012 #48
Keith WILL BE MAKING A STATEMENT ON TWITTER SOON rsmith6621 Mar 2012 #52
Yea he's tweeting now... ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #55
Holy shit! Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #63
Wow, ego much iamthebandfanman Mar 2012 #76
Nothing new. Beacool Mar 2012 #144
OMG! I agree with you 100% JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #169
Really, why? Beacool Mar 2012 #188
'Tis rare JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #203
Oh, fer gawd's sakes... 140 character Tweet? Great.... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #59
He said he is suing them Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #64
Damn CreekDog Mar 2012 #56
Uh-oh...gonna get litigious ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #58
I love Bill Press. He should be on at night rather than in the morning. Peregrine Took Mar 2012 #62
Big mistake. Vinca Mar 2012 #65
KO just published his statement: Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #66
Interesting... Neoma Mar 2012 #69
Well this is ugly... Hardly a good time to have vocal progressives going at each other... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #71
shit..the RW pundits will have a field day with this. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #97
What, just because he is questioning Al Gore's ethics? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #100
CourtTV got root Mar 2012 #111
So Al Gore is unethical and only in it for the money? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #136
I am totally bummed LittleGirl Mar 2012 #67
Keith's posts via twitter LittleGirl Mar 2012 #70
Liberals fighting each other. Makes me sad, because.. mvd Mar 2012 #73
there’s usually a reason... bongo_x Mar 2012 #75
I agree that's often the case but SamG Mar 2012 #77
This is heartbreaking amuse bouche Mar 2012 #78
If a guy gets shitcanned at one network it could be poor judgment on the network's part tularetom Mar 2012 #81
I love..love ...love his special comments amuse bouche Mar 2012 #91
I hate to disagree but those special comments got me through a lot of dark times aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #124
"pompous special comments?" Hissyspit Mar 2012 #128
I think it was more the delivery than the content JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #170
Hear, hear!!! Beacool Mar 2012 #147
No it doesn't. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #163
I used to watch Olbermann faithfully. Beacool Mar 2012 #187
He's a very talented child BeyondGeography Mar 2012 #84
Well Robbins Mar 2012 #85
Limbaugh stays on the air while Olbermann is looking for a job GreydeeThos Mar 2012 #88
Shame. He was a wonderful advocate for the Occupy movement. Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2012 #89
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! blackspade Mar 2012 #92
HOnestly Current Screwed up! The man was left in the dark on his show while all the newer shows Justice wanted Mar 2012 #93
Yep. GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #103
I remember here on DU when Keith first began at Current aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #138
At the link provided by KO, Mr. Cain was also fired when he was sick fasttense Mar 2012 #168
It seems pretty clear at this point that Olbermann doesn't play well with others high density Mar 2012 #94
No, he needs to syndicate his own show and be his own boss. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2012 #101
That's what I think, too. It doesn't matter how good someone is, if he can't work with others. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #106
I hope that Keith comes back in another venue. We need him. totodeinhere Mar 2012 #99
Well, that didn't last very long Va Lefty Mar 2012 #102
Condaleeza Rice: "Nobody could have seen that coming." (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2012 #104
Where does he go next? HBO, Sirius/XM? fantomas Mar 2012 #105
Al Jazeera? BadtotheboneBob Mar 2012 #110
Great idea got root Mar 2012 #113
Quite frankly... GoCubsGo Mar 2012 #119
After reading this thread... CanSocDem Mar 2012 #182
Maybe we could - obliviously Mar 2012 #107
He should cut the middle man, and do his thing online got root Mar 2012 #108
They USED Keith stanchaz Mar 2012 #117
$50 Million Paycheck? otohara Mar 2012 #120
lol got root Mar 2012 #125
Couldn't agree more! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2012 #139
@KeithOlbermann: With that, I rest my case RT @tvnewser @current sends out a press release with fake Hissyspit Mar 2012 #121
OOPS! Another Joel Hyatt fustercluck johnfunk Mar 2012 #150
Yup. Olbermann's actions are public. Hyatt's not so much. All the Hissyspit Mar 2012 #158
+1000000000 nashville_brook Mar 2012 #183
Keith has to squelch hyphenate Mar 2012 #127
I'm very sorry to hear this. I hope that Keith will soon find a good fit at a network spooky3 Mar 2012 #130
This sucks!!! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #131
Next stop FreeSpeechTV or Link? rurallib Mar 2012 #132
FSTV is the best bet Great Caesars Ghost Mar 2012 #145
Free Speech TV has extremely limited carriage. totodeinhere Mar 2012 #157
Noooo! Dammit all. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2012 #137
Some things make more sense now; dawnie51 Mar 2012 #142
It's the old Countdown set, ironically. johnfunk Mar 2012 #151
When a guy gets fired WeekendWarrior Mar 2012 #148
Superstars are often complete assholes KamaAina Mar 2012 #189
I don't think WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #209
I don't get Flatpicker Mar 2012 #153
Current TV... ailsagirl Mar 2012 #154
Big fucking mistake... and-justice-for-all Mar 2012 #155
Breaking: Current TV dismisses any chance it had of breaking into the first tier of cable channels. KamaAina Mar 2012 #159
@HowardKurtz Plot thickens: Hearing allegation that Hissyspit Mar 2012 #160
It's About Money otohara Mar 2012 #177
Makes me sad too! n/t Tripod Mar 2012 #164
There is Bill Moyers, and then there is Keith... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #167
I respect your opinion, but wonder... "who are/were the viewers on Countdown"??? MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #180
He did "play hooky" alot. zanana1 Mar 2012 #171
Amazes me how many people here used to call KO their friend and are now abandoning him. Disgusting. BigBearJohn Mar 2012 #173
One Irony 90-percent Mar 2012 #174
"The Normalization of Deviance"... CanSocDem Mar 2012 #184
Current is toast Mosaic Mar 2012 #175
I've got a friend who's been banned from every bar in south Boston Recursion Mar 2012 #176
Exactly- there does appear to be a pattern here, BeHereNow Mar 2012 #199
After seeing Eliot's "first" show... this will NOT DO for an Olbermann replacement... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #178
ya'll can say what you want about KO newspeak Mar 2012 #179
Well said... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #181
Personally I don't know what happened. KO is a very glinda Mar 2012 #185
Could Keith Olbermann Be Heading to Showtime? totodeinhere Mar 2012 #190
Current TV Cable line up market share? 90-percent Mar 2012 #198
All I know is the sound and picture quality is a lot better for Stephanie Miller's show itsrobert Mar 2012 #191
I wouldn't want to work at a network that employed SoFlaJet Mar 2012 #192
I thought I was alone! BeHereNow Mar 2012 #200
After he moved to Current SoFlaJet Apr 2012 #207
it does tend to sound like he AsahinaKimi Mar 2012 #193
Cluster B AngryAmish Apr 2012 #208

MARCUSCO

(633 posts)
33. Damn, something for Billo to gloat about tonight.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:14 PM
Mar 2012

You just watch (Then again, don't watch). He did this when Air America went belly up.

nedbal

(676 posts)
116. According to an individual with knowledge of the situation,..........
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:41 PM
Mar 2012

[link:http://theclicker.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/30/10945071-current-tv-fires-keith-olbermann|
http://theclicker.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/30/10945071-current-tv-fires-keith-olbermann

According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, that dispute was part of a larger chain of errors by Olbermann, who was fired for a "serial, material breach of his contract" such as the failure to show up to work, sabotaging the network and attacking Current.

That individual said Olbermann missed 19 of 41 working days during January and February and asked for vacation the night before Super Tuesday, giving the network "strong legal foundation" for dismissing Olbermann.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
10. Their statement:
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:01 PM
Mar 2012

"We created Current to give voice to those Americans who refuse to rely on corporate-controlled media and are seeking an authentic progressive outlet. We are more committed to those goals today than ever before. Current was also founded on the values of respect, openness, collegiality, and loyalty to our viewers. Unfortunately these values are no longer reflected in our relationship with Keith Olbermann and we have ended it.”

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
32. Translation
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:13 PM
Mar 2012

Olbermann was too over the top often. At least that's how I read and he was most capable of being over the top.

Does anybody know if he said anything that would seem outrageous recently?

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
40. I don't think that was it. They hired him for that. Apparently he kept going at it
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:19 PM
Mar 2012

with management reg. the poor production values and the lack of promotion for the network. There were a couple of articles last month about this. Apparently when they asked him to do primary coverage with other network hosts he told the to go fuck themselves (paraphrasing of course).

 

FedUp_Queer

(975 posts)
53. I suspect...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:32 PM
Mar 2012

It is because the network wants partisans (though I've never watched it, so I don't know...I'm just speculating), and Olbermann is not a partisan. Or...he's just a jerk.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
82. Whatever Keith's other qualities, he's always had a reputation as hard to work with.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:44 PM
Mar 2012

And frankly, a lot of that prima donna quality came through on the air at times, when he'd go off basically with the attitude that he knew what should be done better than everybody else.

 

FedUp_Queer

(975 posts)
90. As I recall, we don't agree on much. However, I could not agree more.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
Mar 2012

I agreed with him a lot on his screeds against Obama, but it did kind of have a "who the hell are you" feel to it.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
49. Article in the NYT attributed it to "unauthorized absences"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:27 PM
Mar 2012

Could be his throat problems were/are getting worse. If that's the case, I'd suggest he take up writing Op/Ed columns. We need his voice, either on the air or in print.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
118. He's taken more days off than anyone on the air I can think of...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:46 PM
Mar 2012

The throat absences were just a small part of it

I've always been a big fan, but he seems to have serious

issues when it comes to jobs and "playing well with others".


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Statement from Current TV
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:59 PM
Mar 2012

Excerpt:

Current was also founded on the values of respect, openness, collegiality, and loyalty to our viewers. Unfortunately these values are no longer reflected in our relationship with Keith Olbermann and we have ended it.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/03/olbermann-out-spitzer-in-on-current-tv-119209.html

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
114. I have thought that all along when recent criticisms cropped up
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:24 PM
Mar 2012

This is a middle-aged man who has been hit with two devastating top ten stressors within a reasonably close amount of time. It was also obvious before it was publicly announced that he was having health problems. I noticed it a lot but didn't post any questions because I thought it would just give rise to a lot of negative comments about him when that was the last thing he needed.

I am simply devastated by this news. I really like Elliot Spitzer, but Keith Olbermann is a one of a kind. People make fun of his huge head, but he had a huge brain that needed a lot of room. A detractor recently mentioned "no one is irreplaceable" but Keith Olbermann is. There is no one else like him. As for his personality downsides, people with a heck of lot of smarts and high standards tend to expect too much from others. In other words, they can't measure up to his same standards, and he doesn't understand why.

As far as his problems with MSNBC, I thought they were justified. I really like some of the hosts there, but with the Comcast merger, there was definitely a change in philosophy. I turn on MSNBC and see a Republican sitting there that I absolutely have little tolerance for, and I always think the same thing -- if I wanted to listen to these people, I would watch FOX news. So I switch off.

Something tells me I might not ever enjoy seeing Keith Olbermann in an anchor seat again any time soon, and that is extremely disappointing to me. I thought I would really enjoy listening to him during this election season, and I can't think of anyone else who can match him.

Sam

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
126. He's starting to piss me off...How many people get gigs like his?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:01 PM
Mar 2012

Yes, he's talented, but so are others, and they appear to be far more RELIABLE,

and able to act like grownups when it comes to work...I know people making

ten dollars an hour who have a better work ethic than he does.

As to your statement about his "personality downsides" :

"People with a heck of lot of smarts and high standards tend to expect too much from others. In other words, they can't measure up to his same standards, and he doesn't understand why".

I have one answer: Rachel Maddow...Rachel is every BIT as talented as Keith,

and she seems to LACK his huge ego and chronic inability to hold a job like most of the

other anchors on MSNBC and elsewhere....WTF is wrong with him?

I'm pissed BECAUSE I really like him, have been a huge and loyal fan, and he's

letting EVERYONE in that category with this shit. Effing A...He probably needs a therapist.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
161. I will tell you why I said that
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:37 AM
Mar 2012

Here in Washington I have had a lot of job working for extremely intelligent people (I mean super-intelligent, super-successful) that almost no one could work with. They had their important jobs because they rendered great services to their clients, and in this particular field, that was what was important, not the subordinates' lack of ability to work directly for these people. I always stuck it out and was tremendously rewarded for that for one reason and one reason only. I learned so much from these people. It was simply incredible experiences to work around them. I developed tools to ward off their explosive techniques and I insulated myself from the ramifications of the soap opera because I wanted to stay in the jobs.

Today, I am a much more enriched person from having worked for those people. I think Keith Olbermann is that same type of person. And I have learned so much from listening to him over the years, I just don't care about the surrounding soap opera. Most people that successful experience back-stabbing right and left and keep on trucking, and additionally when bottom-line profits are not at the goal line often an entity will cut loose their most expensive employees to save more money by hiring people whose salaries are less.

We here on the outside don't know the truth of what actually happened here. All we know, those of us who find Keith Olbermann irreplaceable, is that it a great loss to us and we wish it had not happened for whatever reason. Why couldn't they have just granted him a leave of absence with no pay until all the technical and health issues were resolved? Current's bottom line might end up better, but this is public relations disaster.

Sam

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
172. I agree with you 100% I worked for a major studio and worked for the same kind of people as you
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:42 AM
Mar 2012

Keith was always a friend to us -- I think we should continue to watch his back.
I have more allegiance to Keith than I do to Al Gore, that's for sure.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
202. +1
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 12:21 AM
Apr 2012

I think Olbermann is a perfectionist and doesn't tolerate BS. Maybe that's why he's so 'difficult' to work with ....

KO should strike out on his own. In this day and age, there's no need to rely on a network. He can carve out an internet presence and pick up a large following quite fast, and I'm sure the advertisers will follow. He's always been an innovator, and I won't be at all surprised to see him create a new way to communicate using internet tools.

The only advice I'd give him is to let go of Current. Taking legal action against them is a waste of his valuable time and talent.

Good luck, KO. Wishing you well.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
162. And Rachel did hardly ANY coverage of Occupy Wall Street while Keith did pretty much the BEST.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:42 AM
Mar 2012

It's not really a valid comparison. They are different people and do different things. They are both needed, and as the poster you are addressing pointed out, we really don't know the whole story here. But why exactly does Olbermann, after all he's done, need to be kicked to the curb so quickly by so many here on this site?

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Plot thickens: Hearing allegation that Olbermann switched car co's and vendors because Current didn't pay the bills. Much more will come out

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
195. That is true...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 06:50 PM
Mar 2012

but I'm not "kicking him (Keith) to the curb"...My frustration and that of others

really STEMS from the fact that we LIKE him and we want him to "like" us enough

to, ..I don't know...Show up for work more?...Maybe not get canned repeatedly

so we're unable to see him?.

Truthfully, anyone who took off as MUCH time as Keith did, would have been canned

long ago....His unreliablity in that area was a problem at MSNBC too.

After he was fired at MSNBC, the word from the station was "You never knew, on any given day,

whether he would show up for work or not".....People paying you a multi-million

dollar salary are not going to put up with that shit, and that's just a fact!

It's true that we don't, as you said "know the whole story", but virtually EVERYONE

who has worked with him says he's got a big ego and is highly "tempermental".

I think he has inner demons, as many of us do...That being said, he needs

to either demolish them or learn to "handle" them if he wants a career in broadcast.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
205. I could not agree with you more!
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:46 AM
Apr 2012

It is one thing to lose one job but to lose every major job you get shows a pattern! I know pointing out here on DU that Keith is the problem and not all his past employers is equal to going into a church & saying Jesus was nothing but a man who was turned into a god by his followers after he died but the fact is Keith is the problem!

I like Keith but I am not going to make excuses for him or try to blame everyone else but Keith simply because I like him as many are doing.

You example of Rachael Maddow was spot on! Although I personally think she is much better than Keith on many levels, but like you said, she does not have such drastic problems with her employer & she is just as critical about elected officials including Obama!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
12. I'm so sorry.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:01 PM
Mar 2012

The fit wasn't right, I guess. Keith owns a great part of Current -- odd to think he could be dismissed. They should have parted in a different way.

Elliot Spitzer is a fine man, though.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
41. Yes, a fine man indeed.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:19 PM
Mar 2012

War on prostitution while shipping prostitutes in for his personal pleasure.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
74. Which has a greater affect on the country-
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:58 PM
Mar 2012

The out-of-control financial industry, or Elliot Spitzer's proclivity for soliciting prostitutes?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
80. Apples and oranges.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:31 PM
Mar 2012

This is a non argument. Both are crimes. Is one worse than another? Sure.

Spitzer was guilty of a crime that he dedicated a task force to fighting. I would say that takes him out of the "fine man" category.

Pointing out there are worse crimes is just silly.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
96. how about all the crimes that the OWS people committed?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:25 PM
Mar 2012

I guess you've just written them off, too.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
133. are OWS people bilking folks out of millions of dollars?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:38 PM
Mar 2012

it was spitzer's HYPOCRISY that makes him a piece of shit.

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
140. You mean the ones Olbermann debunked -- and Breitbart pulled from his site...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:57 PM
Mar 2012

... before he was righteously smited by Jehovah?

And yeah, the alleged and actual crimes of a handful of BlackBloc troublemakers that tied themselves to #OWS and made it look bad are completely comparable to the fraud and damage committed by banksters.

Tell you what, beavis99, why don't you go back to Free Republic and vent your swill among your fellow Teabaggers?

Response to johnfunk (Reply #140)

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
149. Not that they have a damn thing to do with Spitzer being a "fine man,"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:12 PM
Mar 2012

but what OWS crimes are you referring to?

My entire argument is that Spitzer is not a "fine man." Crimes other people may or may not have committed have no bearing on Spitzer and this particular conversation.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
165. Got it.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:06 AM
Mar 2012

(I'm not trying to fight with you, obxhead. Really. I like you.)

Relative to you and I, Spitzer's a hypocritical scum bag. Next to everyone else in government, he's a saint.

For what he was trying to do to rein in Wall Street, I can look past his prostitutes. It's not like it affected me anyway.

Plus, he was taken out by worse people than he was. To them, his actions to protect you and I were criminal. That's scary. And that's who is running the show now.

Same thing with Anthony Weiner.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
166. We can find better people to speak for us.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:34 AM
Mar 2012

It's that simple.

I refuse to support his show no matter how much he fights wallstreet. In my opinion he can't be taken seriously in that fight. he fought prostitution while taking part in it at an unbelievable level.

Now, is prostitution a HUGE crime? Hell no. I would rank hooking up for cash about 3 degrees lower than smoking a joint and I think joints should be sold like Marlboros at the gas station.

The problem is he "declared war" on what he was enjoying to the maximum extent. That can't be forgiven in my mind.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
87. He is a terrible person and an example of the worst in american politics
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:53 PM
Mar 2012

The entire do as I say and I will do whatever the fuck I want mentality. Fuck him.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
135. people want to beleive in heroes..
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:47 PM
Mar 2012

and spitzer did some really good things, but his hypocrisy in the prostituton matter was simply beyond reproach. i mean, if you want to consort with prostitues, that's your business. quite frankly, i think prostitution should be handled like it is in nevada. but that was straight-up bullshit what he pulled and to make excuses and defend him as many here do is laughable.

My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
13. The dude has people problems...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

A very intelligent guy, but not intelligent in all respects. I hope he is ok.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
79. I think he has those only with people...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:19 PM
Mar 2012

...with no integrity. He was given big promises to go to Current...remember 'News Director' title? I don't think he would have made that up.

Then a boss left, another came in...suddenly that 'news director' promise/title disappeared. Wondering if that 'broken promise' has anything to do with this?

I am an Al Gore fan, and I had hoped for Current to succeed...but this is very sad.


Hugs Keith! #FOK

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
109. I Agree - Like He Was Asking to Be Fired
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:56 PM
Mar 2012

never wearing a tie, the black background, not very professional.

I stopped taping his show - never really cared for his interview style.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
14. I self-deleted my own post just a few seconds ago
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

This one has a better source.

I was surprised to see Spitzer on Olbermann's show last night, but figured there was a reason having to do with Keith's recent health problems.





 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. could be. But, the fact that they won't let him sign off - makes me think it
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:03 PM
Mar 2012

was some specific action that really pissed somebody off. Although those two
things could definitely be related.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Let's face it. We love how he thinks and what he says...but
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

it's becoming increasingly obvious he must be too hot to handle for bosses.

RandySF

(58,832 posts)
16. *sigh* Maybe the Keith just doesn't work well with others.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:02 PM
Mar 2012

Did he say anything "controversial" lately?

Lost-in-FL

(7,093 posts)
26. Something that is very common regardless of where one works.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:09 PM
Mar 2012

He seems to have a short fuse, a character flaw (or blessing) that is perhaps problematic in his line of work.

I am still shocked!

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
19. I'm reminded of an old adage from school days: "too smart for your own good..."
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:03 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:35 PM - Edit history (1)

I HATED that, since it was quite often used against girls to keep them "dumbed down," IMO.

Nonetheless, when someone's advanced intellect gets in the way of professional relationships, perhaps there is some small point...

I'm very sorry to see this happen, even though I've had no access to current except the rare occasions there was a working internet "stream."
I wish Al Gore and Company all the success in the world, but I am saddened.

DemzRock

(1,016 posts)
21. He will be missed, but...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:03 PM
Mar 2012

Somehow he didn't seem to be as much of a team player with the new talent. Am I wrong? Did he even welcome Stephanie to the station?

 

SamG

(535 posts)
23. Did he welcome Bill Press? Stephanie, I can ..
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:07 PM
Mar 2012

take or leave, too much silliness and repetition of the same lame off-color jokes.

I wonder if he has a personality problem, a general problem with people, or some other issues, (alcohol addiction, whatever, I have no evidence, except experience with others that don't get along or have outbursts or problems relating to others, and get in trouble that way, due to addiction issues).

 

FedUp_Queer

(975 posts)
60. I agree.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:40 PM
Mar 2012

She's amusing and funny, but has no business on a serious political/news network. She seems quite partisan, too.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
72. So little "news" and so much banter
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:51 PM
Mar 2012

She is fun to listen to if there is nothing else but country music on the car radio as you drive someplace, but 2 hours on Current TV? Not worth it. I tried the first day, and lasted 30 minutes.

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
141. I'd rather watch Stephanie than Morning Joke or any of the other cable "news" swill
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:02 PM
Mar 2012

... and she's a well-prepared interviewer. Plus, the coverage of Mini-Kiss and Mini-Queen never gets tired. And there are times I wish I had the "You're a lying sack of crap" song on my Android to play whenever in the presence of bullcheney...

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
112. Kieth Olbermann has an addiction to th TRUTH, honest, factual reporting.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:07 PM
Mar 2012

He says it loud and clear. I am sure that offended many people. He doesn't sugar coat the news, he's a straight shooter. I love Kieth and will miss him. If indeed he has health issues, I wish him a speedy recovery.

Current TV lost ..and so do Kieth's loyal fans.

Kieth, let us know where you will be next, I will be watching and listening .

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
29. The first thing I noticed was his absense during the debates way back at the beginning. It seemed
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:11 PM
Mar 2012

like he was protesting them but then they said he had an illness. Not sure what happened.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
22. I'm not surprised.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:06 PM
Mar 2012

Keith has been getting a pretty bad rep the last few years. His tantrums have become legendary.

50000feet

(115 posts)
37. Can you say a bit more about what you know re: KO's tantrums?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:18 PM
Mar 2012

I'm not aware of any reports but have always thought he tends toward being overbearing while not suffering fools gladly - - or even at all.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
50. I don't have the links
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:27 PM
Mar 2012

but there have been a multitude of stories published about how he went all uber-diva over having to share election coverage with other hosts (Governor Granholm took his spot, and had Elliot Spitzer and Al Gore for commentary), the low budget (and production) values related to the set and a bunch of other drama about what was going to be taped in New York and what in California (headquarters).

IMO, it wasn't his on-camera persona that was an issue. He is just reputed to be a real PITA to work with (and that goes back to the MSNBC days).

 

FedUp_Queer

(975 posts)
196. He never mentioned Keith's "Diva-ness." He DID mention
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:09 PM
Mar 2012

how appalled he was that ratings was the determinant on what news they reported.

50000feet

(115 posts)
68. Thanks for your swift reply.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:47 PM
Mar 2012

It's always interesting to see whether I have the correct intuitive read on someone I've never seen in real life and don't know much about anyway. In this case it's a "yes" -- once again. Hmm, I'll pat myself on the back, lol.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
25. Very sorry to see this happen. I do like Spitzer though - think he knows a lot about the banksters
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:09 PM
Mar 2012

that are causing so much trouble. Hopefully Current TV will continue to build good progressive programing that will give us an independent voice in the media. Maybe KO can put something together on line that is his alone.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
27. Keith was my hero for years! I still love his style of
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:10 PM
Mar 2012

delivery. But this looks like he's got more personality problems than are reasonable. And, honestly, his style is too "predictable" these days.

I won't shed a tear as I did when he left MSNBC.

I think it's time for some new perspectives, new styles of delivery, I look forward to Spitzer or someone else in the slot.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
28. I'm going to say it and don't flame me for doing so but...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:11 PM
Mar 2012

I quit watching Olbermann ages ago. I have current TV and I don't think I turned in once to see his show.

I think the man has alot of talent but he's got an ego that's pretty huge and got in the way of the message. Sometimes it was just too annoying for me. I know alot of people blamed MSNBC for Keith's dismissal but now a 2nd network has done the same - makes me think that Keith might be to blame too.

I will say that he was the best part of watching MSNBC election coverage but I also know that they'll have great coverage this year with Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz and Lawrence O'Donnell. I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that MSNBC will end up being Faux News Jr. Sure they have a few tools like Joe Scarsborough and Chuck Todd (who reminds me of Murray from "Flight of the Conchords&quot but for the most part MSNBC seems like a safe haven for news coverage.

Maybe what Keith needs to do is take a year off, I'm sure financially he's fine. But then use that time to find himself, figure out what works and what doesn't and perhaps in a year or so we might see him back bigger and better than ever.

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
143. YMMV, I guess -- but I do agree...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:05 PM
Mar 2012

[b style="font-weight:bold;color:red;font-size:2.3em;"]... MORE COWBELL!

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
30. This kills me. We need every Liberal voice we can get
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:13 PM
Mar 2012

I don't know what happened, but if his ego got the best of him again, this is a heartache.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
31. Now, Do You All Understand Why Rachel Didn't Follow Him???
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:13 PM
Mar 2012

KO is mega talented, but he's very high maintenance. He will blow up wherever he goes.

There are some people who can only work for themselves. They cannot work in a structured environment.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
39. Rachel is better off on MSNBC and always has been.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:18 PM
Mar 2012

She can go on Meet the Press sometimes, go on other shows, even the Today show, as an NBC host, she has a long long career at the GE NBC family of channels if she wants it, and can put up with all the men with more exposure, more name recognition shows, (MTP Today), and less brains than she has.

David Gregory: when did he last have an insightful thought?

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
115. He never has had one, has he?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:34 PM
Mar 2012

I watched Meet the Press for decades. I even worked there on a temporary basis (stepped in for an assistant to the producer of show who had a sudden family illness and needed time off). It was like the dream of a lifetime for me.

I tried to give David Gregory the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but I finally gave up. There is just nothing there.

Sam

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
95. Yes, we understand. She was and is under contract with MSNBC.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:24 PM
Mar 2012

Such things don't allow a person to pack up and go work somewhere else without severe retribution.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
129. Rachel seems to have a much more even temperament and she's every BIT as smart as Keith if not
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:10 PM
Mar 2012

more so.

At very least, I think Keith needs to read a book called "Emotional Intelligence".

He appears to be lacking.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
42. I had a sneaking suspicion something was up
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:22 PM
Mar 2012

because he was absent more than he was on.

Spitzer is a good replacement. I have watched him subbing and his great knowledge of the Wall Street screw job this country is getting is going to make it hard for any guest to weasel word his way out of hard questions.

Since Olbermann wasn't given a signoff show, I can only assume there was a lot of yelling at the end.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
44. I'll just say it -
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:25 PM
Mar 2012

Keith Olbermann strikes me as someone who would probably act like a whiny child - impossible to work with. I never liked his program because he always reminded me too much of the other political show hosts on TV, and not in a good way.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
45. I wish that Current TV had a subscription internet option.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:25 PM
Mar 2012

Why should I pay for cable including Fox just to get Current and MSNBC?

I don't want to have to pay for the cooking channel, etc. I want to pick and choose what I watch and what I support.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
47. DEAR AL AND JOEL...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:27 PM
Mar 2012

I don't know what he did... I really don't know what he did that was not in line with what I would have expected of him.

You need to explain this to me, because I am part of the audience you are trying to serve, and I don't know what he did. Perhaps it was values as expressed off camera, as I cannot see this portrayed ON camera.

On the other hand, I was enjoying (once again) Eliot Spitzer last evening. In fact, I turned to my husband and said, "you know, you can't get any better a person to fill in."

I shall continue to watch "Countdown", and I shall miss Keither Olbermann. Meanwhile, thanks for choosing the best person to take over.

Please don't confuse what I've said to be a happy note... You still haven't explained well enough to viewers like myself WHAT HE DID.

MMM

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
86. Sad news
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:47 PM
Mar 2012

I watch Countdown daily and will miss Keith greatly. Best wishes to you, Keith, and I hope you won't stay away too long.

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
52. Keith WILL BE MAKING A STATEMENT ON TWITTER SOON
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:32 PM
Mar 2012


He just announced it a few minutes ago....

Keith Olbermann ? @KeithOlbermann

Reply
Retweet
Favorite
· Open

I'll be putting out my statement in two ways: 140 characters at a time, and then in one fell swoop via Twitlonger.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
55. Yea he's tweeting now...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:36 PM
Mar 2012

"1/ I'd like to apologize to my viewers and my staff for the failure of Current TV. Editorially, Countdown had never been better"

http://twitter.com/#!/KeithOlbermann

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
76. Wow, ego much
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:05 PM
Mar 2012

..

I dunno,

just sounds like a desperate man setting fires while the ship sinks.

itll be interesting to see how this plays out

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
144. Nothing new.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:06 PM
Mar 2012

Same pompous windbag as always. It's MSNBC's fault, Gore's fault, Hyatt's fault, anyone else's fault but his.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
59. Oh, fer gawd's sakes... 140 character Tweet? Great....
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:40 PM
Mar 2012
I guess we'll eventually get to "piece together a statement"...

This tells me that something blew up or Al Gore and company sprung their pre-made decision on him....

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
58. Uh-oh...gonna get litigious
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:39 PM
Mar 2012

"Current's statement are untrue and will be proved so in the legal actions I will be filing against them presently."

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
62. I love Bill Press. He should be on at night rather than in the morning.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:42 PM
Mar 2012

He is an old time genuine lefty. He is smart and he doesn't back down and he hates rethugs just like I do.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
66. KO just published his statement:
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:44 PM
Mar 2012
My full statement:

I'd like to apologize to my viewers and my staff for the failure of Current TV.

Editorially, Countdown had never been better. But for more than a year I have been imploring Al Gore and Joel Hyatt to resolve our issues internally, while I've been not publicizing my complaints, and keeping the show alive for the sake of its loyal viewers and even more loyal staff. Nevertheless, Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt, instead of abiding by their promises and obligations and investing in a quality news program, finally thought it was more economical to try to get out of my contract.

It goes almost without saying that the claims against me implied in Current's statement are untrue and will be proved so in the legal actions I will be filing against them presently. To understand Mr. Hyatt’s “values of respect, openness, collegiality and loyalty,” I encourage you to read of a previous occasion Mr. Hyatt found himself in court for having unjustly fired an employee. That employee’s name was Clarence B. Cain. http://nyti.ms/HueZsa

In due course, the truth of the ethics of Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt will come out. For now, it is important only to again acknowledge that joining them was a sincere and well-intentioned gesture on my part, but in retrospect a foolish one. That lack of judgment is mine and mine alone, and I apologize again for it.


http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gnlt4t

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
71. Well this is ugly... Hardly a good time to have vocal progressives going at each other...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:50 PM
Mar 2012

But there you have it. sigh....

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
67. I am totally bummed
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:45 PM
Mar 2012

I watched Keith and Rachel every night and last night I couldn't figure out what was going on. Neither Keith or Rachel were on. Rachel was on the Daily Show last night.

For those that don't have cable, neither do I. We fixed an antenna and computer to the tv. I finally got Current tv on-line and was able to watch it last night for the first time and he wasn't there! I had to stop using Google Chrome and install Firefox and Adobe flash to run it.

http://www.thertv.eu/
has the live feed of current.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
70. Keith's posts via twitter
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:49 PM
Mar 2012

and Huff Post
Edit: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/keith-olbermann-out-current-eliot-spitzer_n_1392513.html

I'd like to apologize to my viewers and my staff for the failure of Current TV.
Editorially, Countdown had never been better. But for more than a year I have been imploring Al Gore and Joel Hyatt to resolve our issues internally, while I've been not publicizing my complaints, and keeping the show alive for the sake of its loyal viewers and even more loyal staff. Nevertheless, Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt, instead of abiding by their promises and obligations and investing in a quality news program, finally thought it was more economical to try to get out of my contract.
It goes almost without saying that the claims against me implied in Current's statement are untrue and will be proved so in the legal actions I will be filing against them presently. To understand Mr. Hyatt’s “values of respect, openness, collegiality and loyalty,” I encourage you to read of a previous occasion Mr. Hyatt found himself in court for having unjustly fired an employee. That employee’s name was Clarence B. Cain. http://nyti.ms/HueZsa
In due course, the truth of the ethics of Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt will come out. For now, it is important only to again acknowledge that joining them was a sincere and well-intentioned gesture on my part, but in retrospect a foolish one. That lack of judgment is mine and mine alone, and I apologize again for it. .

mvd

(65,173 posts)
73. Liberals fighting each other. Makes me sad, because..
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:53 PM
Mar 2012

there aren't many of us left in the media. Have no idea who is at fault, but really hope Keith keeps up his needed voice.

bongo_x

(49 posts)
75. there’s usually a reason...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:04 PM
Mar 2012

I’ve often seen actors that I thought were good, and seemed to be fairly popular, but suddenly can’t get work and you never see them in anything anymore. Through research or word of mouth I nearly always find out that the reason is simply that they are asses and no one wants to work with them.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
77. I agree that's often the case but
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:09 PM
Mar 2012

I think it will take a few weeks or longer before we learn all the details of this from both sides.

We have to wait, unfortunately. The real facts WILL come out.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
78. This is heartbreaking
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:18 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:55 PM - Edit history (2)

I've been reading KO's tweets. He plans on suing. His tweet log---

"I'll be putting out my statement in two ways: 140 characters at a time, and then in one fell swoop via Twitlonger."

"1/ I'd like to apologize to my viewers and my staff for the failure of Current TV. Editorially, Countdown had never been better."

"2/ But for more than a year I have been imploring @AlGore and @JoelHyatt to resolve our issues internally,"

"3/ while I've been not publicizing my complaints, and keeping the show alive for the sake of its loyal viewers and even more loyal staff."

"4/ Nevertheless, Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt, instead of abiding by their promises and obligations and investing in a quality news program,"

"5/ finally thought it was more economical to try to get out of my contract. It goes almost without saying that the claims against me"

"6/ in Current's statement are untrue and will be proved so in the legal actions I will be filing against them presently."

"7/ To understand Mr. Hyatt’s “values of respect, openness, collegiality and loyalty,” I encourage you to read of a previous occasion"

"8/ Mr. Hyatt found himself in court for having unjustly fired an employee. That employee’s name was Clarence B. Cain: http://nyti.ms/HueZsa"

"9/ In due course, the truth of the ethics of Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt will come out. For now, it is important only to again acknowledge"

"10/ that joining them was a sincere and well-intentioned gesture on my part, but in retrospect a foolish one."

"11/11 That lack of judgment is mine and mine alone, and I apologize again for it."


Edit to add new tweet--Keith Olbermann ? @KeithOlbermann

When @AlGore partner @JoelHyatt illegally fired someone else, it became a haunting movie: Philadelphia http://nyti.ms/HueZsa

------------

I love Keith but hope he's not comparing himself to The Philadelphia Story.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
81. If a guy gets shitcanned at one network it could be poor judgment on the network's part
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:41 PM
Mar 2012

If he gets shitcanned at four of them, especially four as diverse as ESPN, Fox, MSNBC and Current, we're talking personal problems, character flaws and an ego way too big for his own good.

Sorry, but I'm out of patience with this fucking prima donna. For years, Countdown was the only TV show I'd watch but KO lost me with his pompous special comments, his James Thurber readings and especially his little temper tantrums with his employers.

I have a lot of respect for people with the self confidence to refuse to be "team players" but selfishness is not something I admire.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
91. I love..love ...love his special comments
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:09 PM
Mar 2012

He has a fabulous command of the English language. No one on Fox could even come close to his special rants

And I loved the tribute to his dad by reading James Thurber. Those were very special, personal moments. Loved it

To me, a Prima Dona is someone demanding their M&Ms be only orange and no wire hangers. I don't see Keith that way

He wants his programing to reflect his integrity.Obviously, that's not easy to accommodate but I'm not less of a fan because of it

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
124. I hate to disagree but those special comments got me through a lot of dark times
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:54 PM
Mar 2012

They were almost universally applauded to the rafters here at DU with long threads of appreciation when the Bush administration was running roughshod over America with very, very little pusback from the media.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
128. "pompous special comments?"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:09 PM
Mar 2012

The one man in the country saying what needed to be said when no one else in a position of power would say it? Guides to morality and integrity.

His comments have been amazing.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
170. I think it was more the delivery than the content
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 06:39 AM
Mar 2012

At least that was my take. I could read those special comments and appreciate them but when I actually saw/heard them delivered by KO I was way turned off by the extreme self-righteousness.

I do recall too that it wasn't quite like that in the early MSNBC days but it didn't take long to change. After a time I really couldn't watch him.

Funny to see his statement on the firing. Pure narcissus. Taking the "blame" for signing on with Current but really putting the blame on them. Classic.

Julie

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
163. No it doesn't.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:46 AM
Mar 2012

And the poster said it described his Special Comments, not Keith. And the idea that his Special Comments were "pompous" is ludicrous.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
187. I used to watch Olbermann faithfully.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:14 PM
Mar 2012

After a while, his rants turned me off. Also, his obsession with O'Reilly (another windbag) was tiresome. The last time I watched him was after he delivered a 9 minute tirade against Hillary for something Gerry Ferraro had said.

I actually stoped watching MSNBC altogether around that time. I couldn't take anymore the constant sexism.

Matthews: "Nurse Ratchet", "She Devil", "the reason why she's a senator and a presidential candidate is that her husband messed around", and many other similar remarks.

Shuster: Hillary's campaign is "pimping" Chelsea. Never mind that every adult child of a candidate was out campaigning for their dad (except for Giuliani's kids and who can blame them).

Olbermann: "someone should take her to a back room and only he come out".

The hell with all of them!!!

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
88. Limbaugh stays on the air while Olbermann is looking for a job
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:04 PM
Mar 2012

Something is bad wrong with the media these days.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
89. Shame. He was a wonderful advocate for the Occupy movement.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mar 2012

I love Spitzer, but I don't think his coverage would be anywhere near the same.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
93. HOnestly Current Screwed up! The man was left in the dark on his show while all the newer shows
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:19 PM
Mar 2012

got sets and all the crap! They screwed up interviews. I can think of 5 times segments where interrupted by commercials when they shouldn't have been.


Keith has been sick a lot lately and I have to wonder IF that was the real reason why he was Fired.


All in all BAD move by current.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
103. Yep.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:34 PM
Mar 2012

I guarantee you the shoddy production is what instigated this. Keith doesn't strike me as someone who tolerates having things second-rate when it comes to his work. I'm sure it pissed him off, and it wouldn't surprise me if this business about it being cheaper to fire him than fix things is the reason he's gone.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
138. I remember here on DU when Keith first began at Current
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:52 PM
Mar 2012

Everyone was asking what bumfuck station Current TV could possibly be and wondering whether their cable channel or satellite package even included it. It was even less well-known than the Food Channel. The only reason Current is even being talked about is because Keith provided them with an instant audience.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
168. At the link provided by KO, Mr. Cain was also fired when he was sick
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 06:24 AM
Mar 2012

by Joel Z. Hyatt, a son-in-law of Senator Howard M. Metzenbaum of Ohio and a man with political aspirations of his own. But that was about 22 years ago. We can hope Hyatt had learned from the mistake of firing Mr. Cain, a victim of AIDS, since Hyatt lost the case.


high density

(13,397 posts)
94. It seems pretty clear at this point that Olbermann doesn't play well with others
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:19 PM
Mar 2012

His ego has devoured him and it's apparently time for him to retire and stay out of the news. It's always somebody else's fault. I have no clue who would want to try and work with him now.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
106. That's what I think, too. It doesn't matter how good someone is, if he can't work with others.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:48 PM
Mar 2012

Getting along with co-workers and bosses are part of doing a good job, just like showing up. If he were a woman, he'd be called a Diva.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
119. Quite frankly...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:48 PM
Mar 2012

As much as I enjoyed his political show, I really wish he and Dan Patrick would go back to doing a sports show. They are like an old married couple. I have been watching "Countdown" since a few months after it began in 2004, and rarely missed it. But, I never enjoyed it as much as I did the hour or so he did on Dan's ESPN radio show during part of that time.

And, if not that, I think President Obama should hire him as a speech writer, just so long as Keith understands that the President gets the last word on what gets said.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
182. After reading this thread...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:03 AM
Mar 2012


...would it surprise anyone if he went to Fox? They would make him the STAR he has always wanted to be.

.

obliviously

(1,635 posts)
107. Maybe we could -
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:51 PM
Mar 2012

donate money to him to get him to post here because isn't getting fired by Al Gore kind of the end of the line?
I mean where do you go from there?

 

got root

(425 posts)
108. He should cut the middle man, and do his thing online
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:56 PM
Mar 2012

Shoot If huffPo can, he sure can.

And I'm sure plenty of folks can tell him how

I would love to!

stanchaz

(50 posts)
117. They USED Keith
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:45 PM
Mar 2012

If Keith Olbermann is "absent" from Current TV, then I too am absent from Current TV. Keith is the best commentator on TV, hands down. His coverage of OWS was unmatched. Let's hope that he will soon return to the air. We need his unique voice.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
120. $50 Million Paycheck?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:49 PM
Mar 2012

come on, used?

For that he could have at least put on a tie once in a while.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
121. @KeithOlbermann: With that, I rest my case RT @tvnewser @current sends out a press release with fake
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:50 PM
Mar 2012

@KeithOlbermann: With that, I rest my case RT @tvnewser @current sends out a press release with fake Eliot Spitzer Twitter handle. http://t.co/bReC2I1y

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
150. OOPS! Another Joel Hyatt fustercluck
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:15 PM
Mar 2012

Yes, Olbermann can be full of himself, but those who are slagging him need to take a real careful look at Joel Hyatt. He does not have a reputation as the most pleasant guy with whom to do business.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
158. Yup. Olbermann's actions are public. Hyatt's not so much. All the
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:14 AM - Edit history (1)

amazing stuff Olbermann has done, some of it pretty gutsy, and people in this thread are jumping at the chance to trash him, not even knowing the facts.

It's not like Hyatt and Gore didn't know who they were getting, is it?

hyphenate

(12,496 posts)
127. Keith has to squelch
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:02 PM
Mar 2012

his ego to some extent. He's going to keep doing this until he isn't able to get a job anymore, otherwise. I watch Countdown for him as welll as the news, and I have missed him all the times he's been out lately. I suspect there has been a problem for awhile now.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
130. I'm very sorry to hear this. I hope that Keith will soon find a good fit at a network
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:17 PM
Mar 2012

that has the capacity to give him an appropriate, well-supported platform.

I don't feel I can trust the limited information that gets released to the public to make a judgment about exactly what happened with Current.

But in an industry that has plenty of room for Bill O'Reilly and his ilk, there very definitely should be a niche for the far superior Keith Olbermann.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
157. Free Speech TV has extremely limited carriage.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:15 PM
Mar 2012

It's on Directv and Dish Network and two small cable systems, one in Vermont and one in Oregon, and that's it. And to get it on Directv you need a special dish that a lot of subscribers don't have.

I think a better alternative would be for Keith to self syndicate a radio talk show.

Rhiannon12866

(205,363 posts)
137. Noooo! Dammit all.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:51 PM
Mar 2012

No wonder I haven't been able to find him. I thought that they just stopped showing the latenight repeats...

dawnie51

(959 posts)
142. Some things make more sense now;
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:03 PM
Mar 2012

I have noticed that Keith's set has been a black hole since December; I couldn't understand why it was taking forever to get him the halfway professional set he had used when he first started with Current. Then, after hearing the news, I made sure to check out the new show with Spitzer, and lo and behold, Spitzer is sitting in a beautifully designed, lovingly lit studio. It was clear that Current has been trying to shove Keith out the door for some time; you only had to see the change in the sets to understand it. I do like Spitzer, and think he is a fine progressive voice, but no one is as good as Keith. I wonder if Keith referring to FOX as "the whorehouse that is FOX news" had anything to do with this. We should have all seen it sooner, but it was glaringly clear tonight. I would imagine that Keith fought the good fight, but you know, if a boss wants you gone, they will make your life hell until you go.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
148. When a guy gets fired
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:11 PM
Mar 2012

or quits as often as Olbermann does, you have to believe that he must be a complete asshole.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
189. Superstars are often complete assholes
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:58 PM
Mar 2012

Diana Ross once canceled a concert in New Orleans because her dressing room was painted the wrong color. Srsly.

But people put up with that crap because she's Diana Freakin' Ross. Should be the same with Keith.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
209. I don't think
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:01 AM
Apr 2012

anyone should be given a pass for that kind of behavior, no matter how talented they might be. That's complete bullshit.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
153. I don't get
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:54 PM
Mar 2012

Why he doesn't just produce the show independently and then sell the hr to various networks.

Would seem to fit his style and he wouldn't have to deal with working for an individual network.

As much as I like what he has to say, it seems that the back office stuff is becoming too much.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
154. Current TV...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:06 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:36 AM - Edit history (1)

has gotten over 700 outraged comments--and more coming by the minute. I miss Keith already.
Damnit all!!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
159. Breaking: Current TV dismisses any chance it had of breaking into the first tier of cable channels.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:32 PM
Mar 2012

Like the ones I have.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
160. @HowardKurtz Plot thickens: Hearing allegation that
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:34 AM
Mar 2012
HowardKurtz ? @HowardKurtz Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Plot thickens: Hearing allegation that Olbermann switched car co's and vendors because Current didn't pay the bills. Much more will come out

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
167. There is Bill Moyers, and then there is Keith...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:48 AM
Mar 2012

Sorry, but Keith has the reporting / commentary skills of an
an angry hornet. Versus Moyers, or Amy Goodman.

Sorry, but I wont miss him and I hope The Young Turk is not far behind this fate.
I can't respect Current TV the way I do Bill Moyers or Amy Goodman
until they line up some serious journalists.

Love Jennifer Granholm and many of their movie and documentary shows-
The talk SHOW hosts, and the key word is "show" I can do without.
On edit: I have to say this:
I personally see the hysteria generated by TYT and Keith, the equivalent
of the talking heads on Fox and other corporately owned networks-
So Kudos for Current for not encouraging that trend of "journlalim and commentary."

Looking forward to Spitzer, as I find his intellect extremely engaging.
Keith and Cenk, not so much.
My 2 cents.
BHN

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
180. I respect your opinion, but wonder... "who are/were the viewers on Countdown"???
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:49 AM
Mar 2012

I was a strong follower of that show because of Olbermann. I can tell you that I enjoy listening to additional line up, but if I wanted everyone on Current to be the same, I would have stayed with MSNBC, where it seemed that pushing slightly over bland mixed well with some intelligent commentary attracted, yet did not offend enough viewers. Safe....

What I feel many want and what I wanted and was energetically portrayed by that crazy uncle I invited into my living room, which wasn't necessarily safe and non-offending. I don't feel reality is portrayed appropriately unless you have someone like your crazy uncle make a point CRYSTAL clear, as Olbermann often did.

Current had, just the very week of Keith's firing, shown the movie, "Network"... The character who everyone understood and was the soul of that movie, Howard Beal, is exactly why I have connected so well when awaiting what story people will be talking about, a la Keith Olbermann.

Somebody thinks we don't need a Howard Beal, apparently. That's a damn shame. I think we need him more than EVER now...

We had it in Olbermann, and it will not helped this network, who apparently appreciated the movie, "Network".

Al Gore, you didn't fight for the worst mistake made when the SCOTUS and Florida stole that fucking election, which left us in the dump. How are you going to recover from this shrinking violet mistake?

zanana1

(6,113 posts)
171. He did "play hooky" alot.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:37 AM
Mar 2012

I always looked forward to his show, but many times he wasn't there and somebody had to "guest" host for him. I don't claim to know why, but it did bother me.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
174. One Irony
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:31 AM
Mar 2012

In the end, it appears that Keith is a problem hire. No more or no less than any other of us worker bees out here coping with might-makes-right modern American Management.

His issues at work could be similar to issues I've always bridled at, simply the power your employer can chose to exercise over you.

I have something of an "inner Keith" myself that I've carried with me my entire work life. I have to do some failure analysis* on my career and figure out my unconscious self sabotage.

Keith has a beautiful mind and he owes it to our violated Democracy to get on the ball and tell the most Americans he can what he sees going on all around us and what we need to know to be an informed citizenry.

If he's great enough to be the bar none best broadcast journalist in a generation or two, then shirley he can brainiac his way to a high quality and stable soapbox.

-90% Jimmy

* I'm into Quality as a discipline in manufacturing. I am still enamored of the principles of Dr. Deming about quality. The info in this vid I think contains PROFOUND KNOWLEDGE About the nature of people working as groups and the remarkable cluster fucks that can arise if you are not well educated in failure analysis, a form of the pursuit of quality.

&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLD2E14713F80296B0

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
176. I've got a friend who's been banned from every bar in south Boston
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:52 AM
Mar 2012

Eventually I stopped blaming the bars.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
199. Exactly- there does appear to be a pattern here,
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:56 PM
Mar 2012

And I have yet to hear KO offer any explanation or take any responsibility
for HIS part in this repeating pattern.

BHN

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
178. After seeing Eliot's "first" show... this will NOT DO for an Olbermann replacement...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:35 AM
Mar 2012

Re: Spitzer... There's being a good guest, and there's being a great host where you bring your presence to Current TV and engage the viewer. After seeing Spitzer's pilot show last evening, I don't believe he'll be in that slot for long. It's just not there.

I have nothing but admiration for Spitzer. As some have pointed (especially on Current's blog), you better understand how important Spitzer was in the fight against Wall Street, or you're woefully ignorant about his credentials. But, the person behind the top news program - he AIN'T.

Current has made a colossal MISTAKE in firing Olbermann. I still will watch for TYT and Jennifer Granholm, as they are superb as an evening line-up, but...

Go back and review your mission statement for this network, Al and Joel. You should have thought this out better.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
179. ya'll can say what you want about KO
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:39 AM
Mar 2012

but my family love him. He's articulate and passionate. we were excited when we found out he was going to be on current. What we noticed was a second class set and we had to turn the volume way up-something was wrong with the sound.

well, some think keith has a big ego; but his ego isn't so big that he actually cares about other people. I remember when he shined the light on the uninsured and underinsured in our country. And, the donations to the mobile clinics around the country, to help us.

Under little boots, while the rest of the MSM whored for the WH, KO was telling us the truth, especially, when it came to the overreach of power and our civil rights.

I hope he finds another venue, because if and when he does, this family will be there.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
181. Well said...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:53 AM
Mar 2012

I'm sure we are being read here at DU (Thom Hartman).

Don't be surprised if RT picks him up. After all, Max Keiser Report (Financial Scandals and all) is a show that allows the host to tell it like it is.

Olbermann is all this and more. If he joins RT, I'll lobby like hell for our cable to pick it up!

glinda

(14,807 posts)
185. Personally I don't know what happened. KO is a very
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:37 AM
Mar 2012

independent thinker and extremely smart, regardless if one likes his delivery or not.
I like him but had felt he was sort of boxed in there. Am hoping he charts a new course via radio or somewhere where he will have the opportunity to develop his audience.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
190. Could Keith Olbermann Be Heading to Showtime?
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:36 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/coming-soon-to-showtime-keith-olbermann_b119017

According to this article it's a possibility. I actually think it's a good idea. Put him on HBO or Showtime and let him say what he really thinks. The downside of course is a lot of people might not want to pay for Showtime or HBO or can't afford it. But it might be Kieth's best shot. I think he is finished on basic cable.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
198. Current TV Cable line up market share?
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:03 PM
Mar 2012

I have Charter Cable and some kind of discount bundle package contract. Charter does not carry Current TV and does not intend to, apparently. My option seemed to be to get Direct TV or AT&T and then I'll probably lose something I like to gain prime time Keith.

We get your HBO's and one or two other biggies. At least with Keith on Showtime I can choose to pay to get him.

Just how many homes does Current presently reach, anyway? My guess is perhaps only a third? I bet Fox New is at around 98%. How did this happen?

-90% Jimmy

I still hope I can get Current. Bill Press, TYT, Stephanie Miller and other stuff that's progressive still makes me yearn for Current, however. I even lobbied DU help to social network Charter and sent many many requests. I did get a human being response on facebook, so that seems like it could be effective if I could get a little DU love from a half million of you?

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
191. All I know is the sound and picture quality is a lot better for Stephanie Miller's show
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:06 PM
Mar 2012

I think Keith had a bunch of armatures in his show's production. I don't know if Olbermann is responsible for that, but the lack of quality showed on Current.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
192. I wouldn't want to work at a network that employed
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:15 PM
Mar 2012

That asshole Cenk-strange how Keith didn't seem as happy when he came on board...

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
200. I thought I was alone!
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:00 PM
Mar 2012

Nothing changes my channel faster than Cenk.
CAN NOT stand that show.
The reason a person like Bill Moyers is SO effective is
that he takes his personality out of the interview and
focuses on the information.

I'm liking Jennifer Granholm more and more for that very quality.

Keith and Cenk?
Their personalities interfere with the MESSAGE.

BHN
On Edit:
If I wanted to listen to screeching outraged hosts, I would tune into Fox.
I watch when the host is skilled at getting out of the way and letting
the subject or topic reveal its information in a neutral environment- Moyers and Goodman
and both experts at it.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
207. After he moved to Current
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:44 PM
Apr 2012

I decided to give Cenk another shot but it was during his 3rd show when he started in on his "Obama isn't good enough so I'm not going to vote for him I swear" act that I changed the channel and haven't gone back. Even KO's show on Current was so drab LOOKING that it was almost too boring to look at and watch. I was watching the night that the lights went out and apparently Keith said "fuck it-leave them off" that I felt the show was in trouble. It's too bad that he got screwed by the new MSNBC owners that demanded he be fired as part of the sale. I know that feeling of being happy at a workplace and then having it pulled out from under you. Luckily for Keith though, at least he (unlike me) doesn't have to worry about whether or not he can afford to live this month.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
193. it does tend to sound like he
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:24 PM
Mar 2012

can't keep a job. I thought Current TV would have been a great match for him. Looks like we were wrong.

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