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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:12 PM Jul 2014

Islamic Jihad Said to Have Iranian 'Judgement Day' Missile

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Source: Israel National News.com & Donia Alwattan

According to sources in Gaza, the weapon is an Iranian-made “Zelzal”, an unguided missile that can carry a payload of up to 600 kg (1,323 pounds) of explosives for a distance of up to 200 kilometers. Speaking to the Donia Alwattan news site, the sources, which claim to be close to Islamic Jihad, did not say how many such missiles the terror group had, adding that “this is their 'judgement day' weapon.”

Reports in the past have said that Iran had supplied these missiles to Hebollah as far back as 2006, but they were apparently not used during the Second Lebanon War, Israeli officials said. The Zelzal missiles could be deflected or neutralized by the Patriot missile system, or Israel's own Arrow protection system.

Earlier Sunday, a report in the British newspaper The Telegraph said that Hamas had signed an arms deal with North Korea in order to replenish its depleted rocket arsenal, after thousands were either fired at Israeli civilians or destroyed in IDF strikes in recent weeks. The report cited senior security sources who claimed that the deal, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, had already been signed, having been made via Lebanese intermediaries. Hamas has reportedly made an initial down payment in cash to Pyongyang, and is hoping for an imminent delivery to Gaza.

According to Israeli intelligence sources, North Korea has been providing other forms of aid to Hamas as well. North Korean experts are believed to have played a crucial role in helping Hamas build its vast network of "terror tunnels", designed to enable deadly infiltration attacks into Israel, based on the model of the authoritarian state's own complex tunnel network under the Demilitarized Zone with South Korea - believed to be the most sophisticated such network in the world.

Read more: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183401#.U9VElLMrA

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Islamic Jihad Said to Have Iranian 'Judgement Day' Missile (Original Post) big_dog Jul 2014 OP
See my post earlier today. Israel has possibly the best intelligence network in the world. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #1
also from today... Report: Hamas used child labor in tunnel building big_dog Jul 2014 #4
This appears to be bullshit propaganda. Another version of this already got shitcanned here: Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #10
"At least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials" FrodosPet Jul 2014 #17
Can't have it both ways Max power Jul 2014 #5
Not to mention the BIG American flag flying and US sailors visible on deck! BillZBubb Jul 2014 #13
Amazing. What countries aren't involved in this war? Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #2
Hey! Right or wrong, war is where the money is. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #19
Israel's intelligence is often totally wrong. Many times they simply lie. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #3
Lol jamzrockz Jul 2014 #6
I would much rather it take Iran 7,000+ years to get the bomb and that by that time technology 24601 Jul 2014 #7
RT is not an acceptable source! JackRiddler Jul 2014 #8
LMAO cosmicone Jul 2014 #9
We simply do not know. JDPriestly Jul 2014 #20
+1 Scootaloo Jul 2014 #22
It's a rocket, not a missile. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #11
! DeSwiss Jul 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #14
Ooh, scary! Mass murder in Gaza is okay then. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #16
Also, too, it's hyperbole. candelista Jul 2014 #25
And don't forget, they've had these "Judgment Day" missles for years Hugabear Jul 2014 #27
I call, complete and utter bullshit ! jaysunb Jul 2014 #18
My BS alarm is going off harun Jul 2014 #21
Prop-a-gandy, prop-a-gandy ReRe Jul 2014 #23
Is this the Israeli equivalent of World Net Daily? Hugabear Jul 2014 #24
And little green islamic terrorists from mars. candelista Jul 2014 #26
LBN host consensus is this does not meet LBN SOP and is better suited for I/P or GD. Locking uppityperson Jul 2014 #28

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. See my post earlier today. Israel has possibly the best intelligence network in the world.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:18 PM
Jul 2014

Don't judge the situation prematurely. We here do not know what is going on. Israelis are not stupid. They have built an incredibly sophisticated country while Palestine, well, . . . . I've watched the situation since 1952. Palestine just messes up over and over. I would not expect it to change its record now. It's really sad for the Palestinian people.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
4. also from today... Report: Hamas used child labor in tunnel building
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jul 2014

2012 report published by Institute of Palestine Studies alleged 160 children died in construction of tunnels http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/38316-140726-report-hamas-used-child-labor-in-tunnel-building

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. This appears to be bullshit propaganda. Another version of this already got shitcanned here:
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jul 2014

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
17. "At least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials"
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext

"A similarly cavalier approach to child labor and tunnel fatalities damaged the movement’s standing with human-rights groups, despite government assurances dating back to 2008 that it was considering curbs. During a police patrol that the author was permitted to accompany in December 2011, nothing was done to impede the use of children in the tunnels, where, much as in Victorian coal mines, they are prized for their nimble bodies. At least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials. Safety controls on imports appear similarly lax, although the TAC insists that a sixteen-man contingent carries out sporadic spot-checks."


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The report does say "At least 160 children have been killed in the tunnels, according to Hamas officials". Is the report wrong?

Is it that children are NOT being used for digging tunnels, they are not dying from digging tunnels, there were some children dying digging tunnels, but less than 160, or it does not matter because Likud are ratfuckers so Hamas can do whatever it wants?
 

Max power

(60 posts)
5. Can't have it both ways
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:52 PM
Jul 2014

Why did they attacked the USS liberty?

One of the best intelligence agencies in the world couldn't figure out what ship they were attacking ?

As if these ships are similar

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
13. Not to mention the BIG American flag flying and US sailors visible on deck!
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:26 PM
Jul 2014

The attack on the USS Liberty was no mistake. It was intentional. It was murder of American servicemen. It was done by Israel. It was swept under the rug as are all Israeli outrages.

Tetris_Iguana

(501 posts)
2. Amazing. What countries aren't involved in this war?
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jul 2014

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Hey! Right or wrong, war is where the money is.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:58 AM
Jul 2014

For that reason, a lot of countries are interested in prolonging war.

I favor a two-state solution and peace.

I'm with Obama and Kerry on that.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. Israel's intelligence is often totally wrong. Many times they simply lie.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jul 2014

Remember the WMD's in Iraq? Israeli intelligence was sure Saddam had them. Israeli intelligence was sure the humanitarian flotilla to Gaza was carrying a large cache of weapons. They weren't. Israeli intelligence makes all sorts of claims against Iran, particularly Iran's nuclear capability. None have proven true.

They often overstate the threat to get the US involved in carrying out Israeli foreign policy objectives. Whether this missile deal is true or not, the US should stay out of it.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
6. Lol
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jul 2014

Iran is always 6 month away from having a nuclear bomb. Those guys predicting will one day get it right and then they will say "I told you so". Hopefully, I will be still be alive to see that day

24601

(3,961 posts)
7. I would much rather it take Iran 7,000+ years to get the bomb and that by that time technology
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jul 2014

might have made it irrelevant.

I have no problem not living that long.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
8. RT is not an acceptable source!
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jul 2014

Oh wait, this is Israel National News. Alright then.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
9. LMAO
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. We simply do not know.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 01:59 AM
Jul 2014

Let's urge peace for both sides. Then we won't need to find out whether this is true or false.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
22. +1
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:25 AM
Jul 2014

Arutz Sheva, your source for all the "what the fuck?" not pertaining to Ukraine.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. It's a rocket, not a missile. nt
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jul 2014
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. !
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jul 2014

Response to big_dog (Original post)

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
15. Ooh, scary! Mass murder in Gaza is okay then.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jul 2014

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #15)

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
25. Also, too, it's hyperbole.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jul 2014

Judgment Day = the end of the world, which would require more than 600 kg of explosives.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
27. And don't forget, they've had these "Judgment Day" missles for years
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jul 2014

They just haven't used them yet, apparently they're still waiting for the proper time to do so.

Just like all those suitcase nukes that Al Qaeda smuggled into the US from Chechnya over a decade ago (according to World News Daily and Sen. Tancredo)

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
18. I call, complete and utter bullshit !
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jul 2014

This is nothing more than, seeking permission to annihilate.

harun

(11,348 posts)
21. My BS alarm is going off
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:01 AM
Jul 2014

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
23. Prop-a-gandy, prop-a-gandy
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 03:58 AM
Jul 2014

This is a teachable moment. Can we not all agree that this is total bullshite?

Israel National News? "According to sources..." and "Israeli sources say?" In the same article which mentions an "Islamic Jihad Judgement Day" missile in the possession of Hamas in Gaza? And Palestinian youngsters dug the tunnels? Throw in North Korea and Iran for good measure.

Me and my sister could go over there and blow up those tunnels and not injure a soul. How in the hell did the Palestinians build those tunnels without Israel knowing about it in the first place?

Give. Me. A. Break.


Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
24. Is this the Israeli equivalent of World Net Daily?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jul 2014

I'm surprised they haven't claimed that Hamas possesses several suitcase nukes smuggled in by Chechen rebels.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
26. And little green islamic terrorists from mars.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jul 2014

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
28. LBN host consensus is this does not meet LBN SOP and is better suited for I/P or GD. Locking
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jul 2014

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