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Godot51

(239 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:41 AM Jun 2014

Blair: 2003 invasion not to blame for Iraq crisis

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by DonViejo (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Miami Herald

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair says the West's failure to intervene in Syria is to blame for the violent insurgency in neighboring Iraq — not the 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein.

In an essay issued Sunday, Blair called for Western countries to intervene in Syria, though he did not specify how. He wrote that extremists "have to be countered hard" wherever they are fighting.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/06/15/4179646/blair-2003-invasion-not-to-blame.html#storylink=cpy

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/06/15/4179646/blair-2003-invasion-not-to-blame.html



Blair finally hits rock bottom or lower...
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Blair: 2003 invasion not to blame for Iraq crisis (Original Post) Godot51 Jun 2014 OP
Of course he said that. sybylla Jun 2014 #1
CYA mikeysnot Jun 2014 #2
Blair announces he's still an asshole. Fuddnik Jun 2014 #3
Dance of the two Bums Blair is cutting in Billy Budd Jun 2014 #4
The poodle is yipping again. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #5
lol Love it. ctsnowman Jun 2014 #7
If BumRushDaShow Jun 2014 #6
Next up: OJ denies guilt. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #8
So to intervene in Syria, would we have sold weapons to Rebels? bahrbearian Jun 2014 #9
Sorry Tony, but your hands are drenched in blood. marmar Jun 2014 #10
About what I would expect from Dubya's sock puppet. Tommy2Tone Jun 2014 #11
Lies. EEO Jun 2014 #12
Mr. Blair.....I don't disagree that there is no direct correlation Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #13
Locking... DonViejo Jun 2014 #14

sybylla

(8,528 posts)
1. Of course he said that.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:44 AM
Jun 2014

It would have been news if he had said anything different.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
2. CYA
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:45 AM
Jun 2014

you are an idiot Blair...

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
3. Blair announces he's still an asshole.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:46 AM
Jun 2014
 

Billy Budd

(310 posts)
4. Dance of the two Bums Blair is cutting in
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:53 AM
Jun 2014

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
5. The poodle is yipping again.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 08:55 AM
Jun 2014

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
7. lol Love it.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:22 AM
Jun 2014

BumRushDaShow

(129,672 posts)
6. If
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:20 AM
Jun 2014
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. Next up: OJ denies guilt.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:33 AM
Jun 2014

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
9. So to intervene in Syria, would we have sold weapons to Rebels?
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:34 AM
Jun 2014

marmar

(77,097 posts)
10. Sorry Tony, but your hands are drenched in blood.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:39 AM
Jun 2014

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
11. About what I would expect from Dubya's sock puppet.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:55 AM
Jun 2014

Blair was a all in cheerleader for the invasion of Iraq. He actually thinks he has a legacy to protect.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
12. Lies.
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jun 2014
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
13. Mr. Blair.....I don't disagree that there is no direct correlation
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

between the 2003 invasion and the 2014 meltdown of the Iraqi security situation. From a legal causal perspective there have been so many intervening events as to destroy the connection.

But as a practical matter they are very much linked. In 2003 Iraq was ruled with an iron first in the person of Saddam Hussein. He had ruled the country as a brutal dictator for nearly 25 years. He was a secularist whose rule was anything but based on religious hostility. He was a horrible man but I think a man who realized the country that Mr. Winston Churchill, a fellow countryman, Mr. Blair, created in the ashes of WWI was otherwise ungovernable. He knew it was a made up country, a country that consisted of strong tribal history, Kurds and both Shia and Sunni Muslims. Absolutely total control was needed to keep the country together.

So when Mr. Blair and Mr. Bush agreed to invade in 2003 and Saddam's regime fell, what did the victors do? They dismantled every instrument of government. They banished Bathists who had run the country from a bureaucratic point of view from any public positions. This left a vacuum.

The government that was ultimately put together was led by a majority Shiite Muslim, Al-Maliki. The constitution provided for a strong amount of autonomy and that was the plan. The central government would consist of Kurds and both Shia and Sunni Muslims but there would be a high degree of autonomy among these groups. Al-Maliki refused to govern with the help of the others and this has created an opportunity for terrorists.

If Saddam were still in power today would he possibly be facing an insurgency? We can only speculate.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
14. Locking...
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:16 AM
Jun 2014

Sorry, this is a duplicate of an all ready existing OP, here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014826179

Please continue the conversation at that thread.

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