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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:53 PM Mar 2014

The First Mass-Produced Hydrogen Car

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Source: Popular Science

When it comes to alternate energy sources, most automakers think simply—battery power or bust. That’s what makes the Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell an outlier. The SUV will be the first mass-produced hydrogen car in the U.S. when it debuts this spring.

Because hydrogen fuel infrastructure is more or less non-existent, Hyundai’s rollout will be small. The car will be available at select dealers in Southern California, all within range of the company’s sources of hydrogen, which include a nearby waste water treatment plant. Local drivers will be able to “gas” up for free at any of seven distribution stations. A fill-up takes less than 10 minutes and lasts for up to 300 miles. The company claims that the Tucson charges more quickly and has a longer range than traditional EVs. It’s also clean: The only exhaust is water vapor.

Read more: http://www.popsci.com/article/cars/first-mass-produced-hydrogen-car?src=SOC&dom=tw



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truthisfreedom

(23,163 posts)
1. That's great, but remember, hydrogen gas does not occur naturally in large quantities.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:58 PM
Mar 2014

We have to generate it, and the methods we have for that are pretty dang inefficient. I don't expect this will take off like EVs.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
2. Power to Gas is only one and there are many more that will become more efficient and ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:04 PM
Mar 2014

eventually renewable ... full circle renewable ....

Fueling stations[edit]
Main articles: Hydrogen station and Hydrogen highway

Hydrogen fueling station.
There were over 85 hydrogen refueling stations in the U.S. in 2010.[156]

As of June 2012 California had 23 hydrogen refueling stations in operation.[156][157] Honda announced plans in March 2011 to open the first station that would generate hydrogen through solar-powered renewable electrolysis.[citation needed] South Carolina also has two hydrogen fueling stations, in Aiken and Columbia, SC. The University of South Carolina, a founding member of the South Carolina Hydrogen & Fuel Cell Alliance, received 12.5 million dollars from the United States Department of Energy for its Future Fuels Program.[158]

The first public hydrogen refueling station in Iceland was opened in Reykjavík in 2003. This station serves three buses built by DaimlerChrysler that are in service in the public transport net of Reykjavík. The station produces the hydrogen it needs by itself, with an electrolyzing unit (produced by Norsk Hydro), and does not need refilling: all that enters is electricity and water. Royal Dutch Shell is also a partner in the project. The station has no roof, in order to allow any leaked hydrogen to escape to the atmosphere.[citation needed]

The current 14 stations nationwide in Germany are planned to be expanded to 50 by 2015[159] through its public private partnership Now GMBH.[160] Japan also has a hydrogen highway, as part of the Japan hydrogen fuel cell project. Twelve hydrogen fueling stations have been built in 11 cities in Japan, and additional hydrogen stations could potentially be operational by 2015.[161] Canada, Sweden and Norway also have hydrogen highways being implemented.[citation needed]


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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
3. You can use other gases besides hydrogen, as I understand it. So I could build my electric
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:20 PM
Mar 2014

S10 pickup, put in the batteries and the electric motor, and use one of these to power the batteries, or perhaps the motor directly, instead of having to charge the batteries every night.

So it is just a matter of money? How much is a fuel cell that puts out 13-14 volts?

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
4. Sorry, this is not breaking news
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:31 PM
Mar 2014

this is a magazine article. Several other publications have the same news as far back as Dec 2013.
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