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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:08 AM Feb 2014

Farrow makes splash with US TV debut

Source: AFP



New York (AFP) - At just 26, Ronan Farrow is already a high achiever even among the offspring of celebrity parents -- an activist and Twitter darling made famous by the soap opera of family scandal.

On Monday, the child of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen -- or "possibly" of Frank Sinatra -- kicked off his latest venture: a TV show seeking to change the face of cable news.

For an hour a day, the "Ronan Farrow Daily" on left-leaning network MSNBC will seek to go behind the headlines of top US and foreign stories, to educate viewers and campaign on issues.

His first "call for action"? Highlighting the $1.2 trillion he said 40 million Americans owe in the form of student loans.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/farrow-whiz-kid-makes-splash-us-tv-debut-032416981.html

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Farrow makes splash with US TV debut (Original Post) onehandle Feb 2014 OP
His program sounds like it could be useful. I hope it is and merrily Feb 2014 #1
He sure looks like Woody. Scuba Feb 2014 #2
LOL - he looks like his dad Frank Sinatra. Farrow was still fooling around with Frank back then. blm Feb 2014 #27
Nope Scairp Feb 2014 #69
Nope. He looks like a blonde version of young Sinatra. blm Feb 2014 #75
so when he said his dad never abused his sister, he was telling the truth! n/t Scout Feb 2014 #81
I'm guessing you're snarking....? MADem Feb 2014 #28
Didn't know about the Frank thing but he sure doesn't look like that worm, efhmc Feb 2014 #31
No...not a bit. And he doesn't even look like him when he was young, but he does look at MADem Feb 2014 #34
A DNA test would give him access to Frank's $600 million estate. Yet, no test. aquart Feb 2014 #35
ugh jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #41
Oh, my God. This place is lost. Squinch Feb 2014 #50
If we're going to be throwing that word around, with or without the "cheating" attached, MADem Feb 2014 #53
It was a bullshit alert jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #57
I disagree. MADem Feb 2014 #59
It was sarcasm jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #63
It just didn't sound that way to me. MADem Feb 2014 #64
Whatever jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #65
I'm not the one who appears "outraged" in this conversation. MADem Feb 2014 #71
Don't think so. Hasn't that estate been well distributed? The horse has long left the barn. MADem Feb 2014 #52
definitely looks like frank, especially his mouth. eom ellenfl Feb 2014 #38
And those eyes! "Old Blue Eyes" redux... Hekate Feb 2014 #70
No he doesn't .. he looks like Mia! He's too handsome to look like Woody. YOHABLO Feb 2014 #83
Some critics liked the show, others thought he had a long way to go. I think he'll be fine..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2014 #3
That is a Sinatra! Atman Feb 2014 #4
I was thinking exactly the same thing! TBF Feb 2014 #6
No doubt: Sinatra Auggie Feb 2014 #7
I think he just looks like Mia Farrow. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #8
Eyes, chin, hair line. jwirr Feb 2014 #11
I agree - TBF Feb 2014 #23
Eyes and nose are 100% Sinatra htuttle Feb 2014 #12
Yep. Compare from about the same age: Auggie Feb 2014 #13
Ol' Blue Eyes' mugshot is tied with The Thin White Duke's for greatest mugshot ever. Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #22
He was arrested for adultery Freddie Feb 2014 #55
Hairline is Woody Allen's. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #15
DNA Paternity Test? Auggie Feb 2014 #24
He can still check his DNA for his ancestry. Woody and Frank are not of the same ethnic groups JDPriestly Feb 2014 #68
hairline is mia farrow's. what widow's peak? eom ellenfl Feb 2014 #39
He has a widow's peak which he covers up by combing a bit of hair over the center of the peak. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #67
i wouldn't call that a widow's peak. paul ryan has a widow's peak. eom ellenfl Feb 2014 #73
Paul Ryan and Woody Allen are older. Ryan, Allen and Farrow have widow's peaks. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #74
"youthful Woody Allen" Helen Borg Feb 2014 #18
lol - we are not talking about TBF Feb 2014 #21
More than involved--they were MARRIED. It was a May December relationship. MADem Feb 2014 #30
I think Frank and Ronan look alike. MADem Feb 2014 #29
Checking the DNA would end the buzz about his paternity. Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author erpowers Feb 2014 #45
lotso Mia in his looks too. What a handsome young man. geeze. Whisp Feb 2014 #40
Definitely a Sinatra madokie Feb 2014 #14
Undecided from the photos. See my post #15. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #16
Maureen O'Sullivan, Mia's Mother mithnanthy Feb 2014 #76
Then, as I suspected, it is a draw. I looked at a lot of pictures of Maureen O'Sulllivan and JDPriestly Feb 2014 #78
Looks like Sinatra. Helen Borg Feb 2014 #17
I vote for Sinatra, too wordpix Feb 2014 #20
Wow! He looks just like Frank there...NOTHING like Woody! Another thing... Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #48
Sinatra it's clear ALBliberal Feb 2014 #58
My grandmother was a big Sinatra TBF Feb 2014 #62
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2014 #79
He's got Sinatra's eyes, nose, and mouth. kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #61
That was my thought and I am old enough to be able to remember. jwirr Feb 2014 #10
Yeah, he looks just like Frank and nothing like Woody. Sweet Freedom Feb 2014 #19
I have always thought that Frances Feb 2014 #26
Yeah, that's pretty much what he's going for. nt WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #56
He certainly doesn't have Woody's eyes. Ronan's are shaped just like Frank's. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #49
I agree. He looks totally like Sinatra. glinda Feb 2014 #25
fluff piece itsrobert Feb 2014 #5
I watched yesterday OKNancy Feb 2014 #9
I enjoyed his show very much... Tom_Foolery Feb 2014 #32
nytimes said this: elleng Feb 2014 #36
110 percent Sinatra wheniwasincongress Feb 2014 #37
When he came out breech singing I Did It My Way. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #42
Maureen Orth (Tim Russert's wife, writes for VF) said that Ronan can SING, and he sounds MADem Feb 2014 #54
What Do You Mean? erpowers Feb 2014 #44
Well, he didn't. That's no surprise. MADem Feb 2014 #60
Thanks For the Information erpowers Feb 2014 #66
That is Frank Sinatra's Kid erpowers Feb 2014 #43
cross eyed? anasv Feb 2014 #46
If Woody was his bio dad, I think we would not have to wonder. Woody's looks are fairly unique. olddad56 Feb 2014 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Inkfreak Feb 2014 #51
his first guest should be Maury Povich Enrique Feb 2014 #72
"In the case of Satchel Ronan Farrow. .... SummerSnow Feb 2014 #77
Good to see people only care about his looks. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #80
I just hope people give his show a chance. I am enjoying it so far. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2014 #82
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. He sure looks like Woody.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:12 AM
Feb 2014

Bright young man, very personable and well spoken. Hopefully he helps inform viewers about important issues.

blm

(113,059 posts)
27. LOL - he looks like his dad Frank Sinatra. Farrow was still fooling around with Frank back then.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:24 PM
Feb 2014

Go check out pics of Frank from his early days.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
69. Nope
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 02:29 AM
Feb 2014

If Allen isn't his biological father it's some third party because he doesn't look like Sinatra. He looks like the Farrows. Who cares, it's no one's concern save his.

blm

(113,059 posts)
75. Nope. He looks like a blonde version of young Sinatra.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:27 AM
Feb 2014

Doesn't bother me one whit about family dynamics.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. I'm guessing you're snarking....?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:27 PM
Feb 2014

Woody Allen as a high school senior:


Frank Sinatra at the height of his powers:


If I were placing bets, my money would be on the guy from New Jersey.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. No...not a bit. And he doesn't even look like him when he was young, but he does look at
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:01 PM
Feb 2014

like Frank. And if you look at young Frank Sinatra Jr., they look like bruthas from anotha mutha! They both have the same look, only Ronan has the Mia overlay and Frank Jr. has the Nancy Sr. overlay.

His possible half sister Nancy think he's one of them:

But Nancy Sinatra, the singer’s daughter from his marriage to first wife Nancy Barbato Sinatra, told Vanity Fair that Ronan Farrow “is a big part of us, and we are blessed to have him in our lives.”


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/10/frank-sinatras-widow-calls-ronan-farrow-paternity-report-phony/

aquart

(69,014 posts)
35. A DNA test would give him access to Frank's $600 million estate. Yet, no test.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:56 PM
Feb 2014

Glad that everyone's proud to think of Mia as a cheating whore. I know I am.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
41. ugh
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

A DNA test would give him access to Frank's $600 million estate. Yet, no test.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=738167

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Is it ever appropriate to call a woman a whore?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:50 PM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Jesus. No question, hide.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Ugh.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: the "W" word. Fail.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I may be wrong here but I think the poster might be saying that in a different manner (ie, calling out people who are saying that she is because of her choices, like a slap at people who use the word to describe women for their choices). If not should be a hide but context here is unclear.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I can't believe you alerted.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: poster is not calling anybody a whore, alerter is sarcasm-impaired or trying to deceive the jury

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. If we're going to be throwing that word around, with or without the "cheating" attached,
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:28 PM
Feb 2014

I think Woody and Frank win the prizes and deserve the word way more than anyone else in their lives. Frank was married four times and cheated during, between, before and after! And we know about Woody robbing the proverbial cradle...

The poster dodged a bullet, and should be ashamed. I didn't alert but I'm glad someone did and thank you for bringing forward the results. Juror Number Five is a piece of work, juror number six can't read. Number four is over-thinking an obvious insult.

Unfortunate, but elucidative.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
59. I disagree.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:23 PM
Feb 2014

I don't think suggesting that MF is a "cheating whore" is cool, at all. It was a rather sexist assertion, frankly. It takes two to tango, and Mia was an unmarried --divorced, from her former husband Frank--woman.

Where's the excoriation for Frank, the "cheating whore?" He was cheating on Barbara Marx at this point in time, he had married her in 1976. Ronan was born ELEVEN years later, in 1987. And he cheated with Barbara before he married her, going behind the back of her husband and his neighbor, Zeppo.

Crazy double standard, IMO.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
64. It just didn't sound that way to me.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:29 PM
Feb 2014

It sounded like a nasty little double standard.

But ya know, we have this cute little smilie that can identify these vaguely sarcastic posts--they're handy to prevent misunderstandings. Easy to type, too-just the word sarcasm, between two colons.



Easy peasy...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. Don't think so. Hasn't that estate been well distributed? The horse has long left the barn.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:22 PM
Feb 2014

The guy died fifteen years ago; it's not like they can run around grabbing back up bits and bobs of a will that's already been distributed. It's TOO LATE.

And how do you know Frank even left anything "to his children" in the will? Maybe he gave it to 'em while they were alive, so he could enjoy watching them with the goods--that's not uncommon. Or maybe he didn't leave 'em anything, and left it all to their mother(s)? We don't know if Frank knew, or suspected, that Ronan was his. We do know he kept seeing Ronan's mother, and Ronan was welcomed by the Sinatras.

And since when is anyone "entitled" to a chunk of the estate, absent a declaration in a will? People can sue, but if Frank's will said, for example, I leave all my money to The Home For Indigent Italian Musicians, no one related to him is getting a dime without contesting the will...and I don't think there's a state in the union where a will can be contested a full decade and a half after probate.

Frank's last wife, Barbara Sinatra was--and I am quoting YOU--a "cheating whore." Shame on YOU, BTW, for even coughing up that derogatory term---and FWIW, Frank was one of the biggest "cheating whores" in show business--a constant cheater, which is why he couldn't stay married (Nancy, Ava Gardener, Mia, Barbara--and plenty of partying during/in-between). As for Barbara, She was living in Sinatra's neighborhood, MARRIED to Zeppo Marx, who was not her first husband (he was considerably older than she was--she had been a Vegas showgirl) and she was screwing around with Frank on the side between tennis sets. So, I guess that "cheating whatever" thing is catching...

Mia Farrow is a complex person who came up in the "Free Love" era. Her relationship with Frank Sinatra continued long after Frank served her with divorce papers while she was making Rosemary's Baby. He was tired of being accused of robbing the cradle, and Mia wasn't about to be the subservient "Fifties Wife" that his generation expected.

That was the "Marriage of the Decade" because it was a May - December thing, and that was also the "Divorce of the Decade." She has always said that he was her "great love."

Mia never married Woody Allen, you know. Or perhaps you don't. They were "in a relationship" and he was the "adoptive father" of many children in that non-marriage. They did not live together. They maintained separate residences across the park from one another.

So, on a good day "cheating" is a strong word, and use of the term "whore" reflects on YOU....badly. I suppose the French leader Hollande is one of those, too, as is his current flame, and the last partner he dumped, who cheated with him while he had four children with his previous partner (and they were in a Woody-Mia situation, too--unmarried).

To quote Miss Knowles, with regard to Woody, "If he liked it then he shoulda put a ring on it."

I think perhaps you should refrain from making intemperate comments when you don't know the whole circumstances--it's clear you either don't know the backstory, or you have differing standards about using that "w" word (cheating or otherwise) when it comes to men and women...?

For all you know--or don't--Ronan Farrow may have already done that DNA test. He's got what looks to my eye like a sister and a brother who look a LOT like him and could provide a sample. Seems odd that Nancy would cook for him and call him part of the family...someone knows something, it's just not the public.

Young Frank Sinatra JR with his father:


Young Nancy Sinatra (with less make-up than she usually wore; she favored her mother):


Hekate

(90,681 posts)
70. And those eyes! "Old Blue Eyes" redux...
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 04:48 AM
Feb 2014

I really don't care about Mia's brood, but the first photo of him that I saw, he reminded me so much of his mother that I was pretty sure he was not one of her adoptees. Something about his gaze in this photo, though, is very Sinatra.

Best of luck to him in his own career, regardless.

TBF

(32,059 posts)
6. I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:19 AM
Feb 2014

It's like looking back in time ... those are Frank Sinatra eyes.

ETA - I did a search and apparently this is a big issue. Here are the photos so folks can judge for themselves:

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. I think he just looks like Mia Farrow.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:31 AM
Feb 2014

Which features do you think look like Sinatra?

Eva Bartok claimed her daughter was also Sinatra's daughter. No question Frank Sinatra got around.

There is a picture of Frank Sinatra's acknowledged son here:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/outlaws/frank_sinatra_jr/1_index.html

Here are pictures of a young Mia Farrow.

The eyes are different, but he has her nose and chin in my view.

And I bet her natural eyebrows are much like his.

Here is a picture of the youthful Woody Allen:

https://www.google.com/search?q=woody+allen&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ZaEMU-CcN5floASYnYDgAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=768&bih=378#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=AYi2aNX9WLI7rM%253A%3BzEbEpsD8XTSUKM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252F5%252F5f%252FWoody_Allen_HS_Yearbook.jpeg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FWoody_Allen%3B181%3B237

Here is Ronan in a photo showing his widow's peak:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ronan+farrow&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EqIMU_SlIYrloASwuYHoBA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=378#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=FclWV6xj6ykF1M%253A%3B0nhYkW7iZQqAAM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic6.businessinsider.com%252Fimage%252F524d9b41ecad04034fe26a38%252F25-year-old-ronan-farrow-in-talks-to-host-his-own-msnbc-show.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.businessinsider.com%252Fronan-farrow-in-talks-to-host-his-own-msnbc-show-2013-10%3B642%3B481

More of the youthful Sinatra:

https://www.google.com/search?q=frank+sinatra&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=a54MU4iMIsrdoAScxoCoBg&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=378#facrc=0%3Bfrank%20sinatra%20eyes&imgdii=_&imgrc=_

No widow's peak.

Mia does not have a widow's peak. That is a significan characteristic. I have a sister with one, but I do not have one.

More of Sinatra:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Frank+Sinatra+and+family&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ip0MU-XkFc7moATPnIGQBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=504#facrc=_&imgdii=6ftiH3hGKu7YTM%3A%3B0Q4faYCQ032ciM%3B6ftiH3hGKu7YTM%3A&imgrc=6ftiH3hGKu7YTM%253A%3BxXPDtyNpWoV-KM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fkotawcontentmarketing.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2013%252F12%252FFrank_Sinatra_-_publicity.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fkotawcontentmarketing.com%252Fpersonal-branding-ol-blue-eyes-branding-and-giving-thanks-my-way%252F%3B800%3B1025

Pictures of Nancy Sinatra:

https://www.google.com/search?q=nancy+sinatra&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=n54MU7L7BoOEogShlYCAAg&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=504#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=0RFlDWfDHOXOOM%253A%3BZgOTX-VNRRFUAM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.theiapolis.com%252Fb000000%252Fd19%252FhLC%252Fi23DF%252Fr6%252Fs1%252Ft3%252FwSG%252Fx2HX6%252Fnancy-sinatra.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fpeople.theiapolis.com%252Factress-D6NE%252Fnancy-sinatra%252F%3B1024%3B768

And Tina Sinatra:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Pictures+of+tina+sinatra&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5p4MU_LAEcvyoAT-2YGYBQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=504#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=_ffr4DF7SQJvbM%253A%3B7_1B0vIRsBHtLM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg6.bdbphotos.com%252Fimages%252Forig%252Fn%252Fp%252Fnpti6dg0yd1f6ign.jpg%253Fkj8as6ye%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.fanpix.net%252Fpicture-gallery%252Ftina-sinatra-picture-20533563.htm%3B454%3B453

Mia's son, Matthew:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Matthew+Previn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Up8MU_exG8yGogSE-IHwAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=504#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Wzifbi1QNz3fOM%253A%3BSaKlAJ3t3BGsXM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fjdsupra-static.s3.amazonaws.com%252Fauthors%252F514b3195d69b7.200w.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.jdsupra.com%252Fauthors%252Fmatthew-previn%252F%3B200%3B183

Sascha Previn:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Matthew+Previn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Up8MU_exG8yGogSE-IHwAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=504#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Wzifbi1QNz3fOM%253A%3BSaKlAJ3t3BGsXM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fjdsupra-static.s3.amazonaws.com%252Fauthors%252F514b3195d69b7.200w.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.jdsupra.com%252Fauthors%252Fmatthew-previn%252F%3B200%3B183

Fletcher Previn:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Fletcher+previn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=vKAMU8PtMsKEogSzgYLoAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=378#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=RKU5dBXNJABNHM%253A%3B593CrVoNxVO7LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.zimbio.com%252FFletcher%252BPrevin%252Fpictures%252Fpro%3B360%3B240

I think they all look quite different from each other. My husband does not look like either his mother or his father. He is the spitting image of one of his grandfather's. And we don't know what the grandparents of Mia or Woody or Frank Sinatra looked like.

Woody Allen has a lot of problems. Some might think he is quite a nut. But, he certainly is intelligent. Ronan could do a lot worse than claim Woody as a father in that respect.

The only way to know is for Ronan to check his DNA. He can probably figure out from his own DNA report without looking at anyone else's quite easily who is is father. The genetic history will be quite different.



TBF

(32,059 posts)
23. I agree -
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

those gorgeous blue eyes are recessive (Mia and Frank both had them and that's why Ronan has light hair and eyes).

Here's an article where Mia confirms it is possible but states a DNA test was never done: http://parade.condenast.com/170558/erinhill/mia-farrow-says-son-ronan-possibly-fathered-by-frank-sinatra-not-woody-allen/

Ronan could easily do one himself if he cares to know. And he may well not want to share the info in any event.


Freddie

(9,265 posts)
55. He was arrested for adultery
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 08:24 PM
Feb 2014

An actual crime in 1938. He was a young nightclub singer caught fooling around with a married woman. Mom put her foot down and told him he was going to marry that nice Italian girl he'd been stringing along for a few years (Nancy Barbato) and he did. A year later he was on the road with Harry James.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Hairline is Woody Allen's.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:22 AM
Feb 2014

One example of a dominantly inherited trait is the presence of a widow’s peak (a V-shape) at the hairline. Let (W) represent the dominant allele, and (w) represent the recessive allele. An individual with a (WW) or (Ww) genotype will have a V-shaped peak at the hairline. Only ww individuals will have a straight hairline. To determine the probability of inheritance of a widow’s peak (or any other dominant trait), the genotypes of the parents must be considered. For example, if one parent is homozygous dominant (WW) and the other is homozygous recessive (ww), then all their offspring will be heterozygous (Ww) and possess a widow’s peak. If both parents are heterozygous (Ww), there is a 75% chance that any one of their offspring will have a widow’s peak (see figure). A Punnett square can be used to determine all possible genotypic combinations in the parents.

http://knowgenetics.org/dominant-inheritance/

Wikipedia states that a gene for a widow's peak is not known and that studies differ as to the statistical presentation of widow's peaks, perhaps because people identify them differently.

Here is a picture of Maureen O'Sullivan, Mia's mother:

https://www.google.com/search?q=maureen+o%27sullivan&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IaUMU9LFN9HqoAS80YHABg&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=378#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=-ug3FMJVnG-SxM%253A%3Boj8Gwe7XkynYAM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.farrow-osullivan.com%252FMovieStillsandPromos.html%3B680%3B840

No widow's peak.

Woody Allen with his sister Letty Aronson as children:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Letty+Aronson&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=gaUMU47tH5LBoASayoDAAg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=768&bih=378#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=AdvF19Ckx1zS9M%253A%3Bu7xmsr8uSRgqOM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F25.media.tumblr.com%252F3752aa7dfe14a8a0dbeb57d954c6e5c7%252Ftumblr_mpocm6y7Vy1rjriquo1_500.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwoodyallenhangingoutwithpeople.tumblr.com%252Fpost%252F55082057841%252Fwoody-allen-and-letty-aronson%3B500%3B719

Woody Allen's face has changed a lot over the years.

I really think that Ronan will not know who his father is unless he gets his DNA results. That should tell the story because the DNAs of Sinatra and Allen should be very different, and Ronan's is highly likely to reveal with which of his possible fathers he has the most genetic material in common.

We were able to prove that an ancestor, child of a second marriage between his mother and an older man and who was disowned by children from a first marriage many generations ago, was actually the biological son of the older man. Not an important fact, but proof positive of one of those family traditions that the whole family gossips about at holidays.

So Ronan can either continue to stir the pot with his tale of two fathers or get definitive evidence. Even without their genetic material, Sinatra and Allen have such different ancestry that their genes will tell the story.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
68. He can still check his DNA for his ancestry. Woody and Frank are not of the same ethnic groups
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:52 AM
Feb 2014

and do not have the same ancestry although they probably both have European ancestry. That won't tell him for sure that he is not Woody's son, but it will probably tell him for sure if he is.

Have you seen the tests in which they determine ancestry by comparing DNA with that of various racial and ethnic groups? Ronan could probably afford a pretty reliable one.

He would not need a paternity test in his case even though it would be necessary in most cases.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
74. Paul Ryan and Woody Allen are older. Ryan, Allen and Farrow have widow's peaks.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:18 AM
Feb 2014

Note the way that Ronan Farrow's hairline recedes at the sides. His hairline is shaped like a v.

Of course that does not mean that he is necessarily Woody Allen's son. Mia Farrow's father or grandfather could have had that same peak. Could be something from the Sinatra family.

And then, there is a school of thought that says that a widow's peak is not hereditary. I'm just saying that Ronan could be the son of either Woody Allen or Sinatra. I don't think he looks much like Woody, but I don't look much like my mother. That is really not the key. He needs to check his DNA if he wants to know. Of course, maybe he doesn't want to know. If so, it is none of my business, but public claims that could cause hurt to someone like Barbara Sinatra should be based on evidence of more worth than blue eyes.

I don't think that Ronan looks all that much like Frank Sinatra. He certainly doesn't resemble any of Sinatra's other children. But that also is just worthless guessing. For obvious reasons, Ronan Farrow would find a lot out about his parentage from a DNA test that indicates likely ethnic ancestry.

TBF

(32,059 posts)
21. lol - we are not talking about
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:17 AM
Feb 2014

random photos being searched for fun - Mia was actually involved with Frank Sinatra.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. More than involved--they were MARRIED. It was a May December relationship.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:42 PM
Feb 2014


She was 21 at the time.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
33. Checking the DNA would end the buzz about his paternity.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:55 PM
Feb 2014

I'm not going to suggest who his father is, but he certainly looks a lot like his mother. He could pass for Sinatra's child too, but as you noted children don't necessarily get their looks just from their biological parents -- sometimes it's from a generation back.

Response to Gormy Cuss (Reply #33)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Undecided from the photos. See my post #15.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:23 AM
Feb 2014

Ronan and Woody have widow's peaks. Where did Ronan's come from?

mithnanthy

(1,725 posts)
76. Maureen O'Sullivan, Mia's Mother
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

does have a small widows peak in many of her pictures, from what I can see.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
78. Then, as I suspected, it is a draw. I looked at a lot of pictures of Maureen O'Sulllivan and
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:51 AM
Feb 2014

did not find it. It isn't important, but out of curiosity, could you give me a link to one. Thanks.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
48. Wow! He looks just like Frank there...NOTHING like Woody! Another thing...
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:53 PM
Feb 2014

Obviously Mia and Woody couldn't have (other?) children of their own or they wouldn't have adopted so many children. He's Franks kid! I wonder if he can sing. I also wonder why he doesn't get a DNA test. Maybe he likes all the publicity
as most famous people do. Maybe some day when he no longer needs that publicity he'll take the test and declare himself the son of Frank.

ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
58. Sinatra it's clear
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:13 PM
Feb 2014

That is so funny I just created an account to let you know how it made me laugh

TBF

(32,059 posts)
62. My grandmother was a big Sinatra
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 10:13 PM
Feb 2014

fan. She kept a scrapbook when she was a teen and pulled it out to show me when I was staying with her. I can see why he was appealing & Ronan certainly is handsome like his dad.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
19. Yeah, he looks just like Frank and nothing like Woody.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:05 AM
Feb 2014

Same forehead, nose and mouth. Maybe even same eyes.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
26. I have always thought that
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:19 PM
Feb 2014

Woody Allen looked a little creepy. Watching some of his earlier movies, I remember thinking that if he had been an actor, no director would have cast him as someone beautiful women would be physically attracted to. In his movies, he is a neurotic, totally self-absorbed, physically unattractive man with no sense of humor.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
49. He certainly doesn't have Woody's eyes. Ronan's are shaped just like Frank's.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:59 PM
Feb 2014

They also have the same smile! There is no question...he is Frank's son. Maybe that's why he never got a DNA test... they knew and Mia knew...not necessary to test! It's pretty obvious!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
9. I watched yesterday
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:53 AM
Feb 2014

It was really quite engaging. He's a natural for television. Maybe a tad nervous, but he seemed calm and in control.
He is also funny.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
37. 110 percent Sinatra
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:50 PM
Feb 2014

I wonder when Woody began to wonder

And fortunately, Ronan seems to have class unlike Frank. Class - it's not about wearing a nice suit.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. Maureen Orth (Tim Russert's wife, writes for VF) said that Ronan can SING, and he sounds
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:30 PM
Feb 2014

like his ... er.... putative father.

AND he moves just like him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. Well, he didn't. That's no surprise.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:57 PM
Feb 2014

He was a misogynist to end all misogynists, he had a hot temper, he could be terribly vindictive, he cheated on every wife and girlfriend he had, if someone "crossed him" he cut them dead, he could be nasty and childish. He threw a woman through a plate glass window because he was mad, for example.

Now, like everyone, he wasn't one-dimensional. He was also charitable, he espoused liberal views regarding things like racial equality and religious freedom (even while behaving like a racist pig at times) and he could be tender-hearted. But he could also be a real asshole.

Read Kitty Kelley's excellent and well-researched book on the topic--written before Ronan was born. Sinatra sued to try to enjoin her from publishing--it only made the book more desirable.

Speaking of "whores" Sinatra saw Kelley in a nightclub, went up to her screaming, called her a "two dollar" one, and shoved two bucks in her drink.


Real class.... way to let someone know that they got your goat, too.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
43. That is Frank Sinatra's Kid
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 04:42 PM
Feb 2014

Ronan Farrow is Frank Sinatra's son. He looks just like Frank Sinatra. The eye colors are different, but he has Sinatra's eyes.

 

anasv

(225 posts)
46. cross eyed?
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

great looking guy, no question. Sinatra's no question.

But am I the only one who thinks he looks a little cross-eyed? My own eyes start to cross looking at him.

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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
80. Good to see people only care about his looks.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 03:05 PM
Feb 2014

And who his father might be.



The objectification and celebrity gossip is strong.

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