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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:31 AM Feb 2014

Ukraine hoping for $35 billion in financial assistance

Source: Kyiv Post



Ukraine's Finance Ministry and National Bank, along with parliamentary speaker Oleksandr Turchynov, have suggested to the country's international partners - particularly Poland and the United States - that a financial assistance credit of around $35 billion be extended in the next week or two.

"During the last two days we have had consultations and meetings with ambassadors from the EU, USA, other countries, and financial organization over Ukraine getting urgent macro-financial aid," acting Finance Minister Yuriy Kolobov said in a statement issued on Monday, Feb.24.

Kyiv is also proposing that there be a large international donors conference involving the European Union, the United States, Poland, the IMF, other countries, and international financial organizations on the extension of aid for modernization and reforms in Ukraine, as well as achieving an association agreement between the country and the EU.


Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraine-hoping-for-35-billion-in-financial-assistance-337483.html



Ukraine's credit rating is CCC : likely to default on current debt.
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Ukraine hoping for $35 billion in financial assistance (Original Post) dipsydoodle Feb 2014 OP
Why sure, the USA can borrow billions more from China and loan it to the Ukraine;....... democratisphere Feb 2014 #1
I read about Berlin Expat Feb 2014 #2
Russia offer was just to get them over the next 7 months dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #4
Wonder how much will be for buying US arms. n/t cprise Feb 2014 #3
Touche' another_liberal Feb 2014 #6
Why waste time? They're going to cut to it, too. cprise Feb 2014 #9
The mass violence was carefully timed . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #13
Yep! nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #17
In the case of Greece that was French and German arms. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #7
I prefer to look to Poland for parallels in this case cprise Feb 2014 #10
Who needs schools and roads her? Android3.14 Feb 2014 #5
Undemocratic, corrupt and unreliable people . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #14
Over Two MILLION Americans are BEGGING and PLEADING for 6 billion Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #8
But Ukraine needs a missile defense system . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #15
+1 jsr Feb 2014 #18
For the benefit of doubt dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #11
Freedom isn't free. ctsnowman Feb 2014 #12
Ukraine would have more freedom and more money by going Crowd-Sourcing Demeter Feb 2014 #16
Analysis here : What economic help for Ukraine? dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #19
That would buy a lot of rubber tires to burn in the town square seveneyes Feb 2014 #20
Switzerland and the Cayman Islands are LuckyLib Feb 2014 #21
Such people do not invest where repayment is unlikely dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #22

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Why sure, the USA can borrow billions more from China and loan it to the Ukraine;.......
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:51 AM
Feb 2014

then the Ukraine can default. Putting out one financial fire after another.

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
2. I read about
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:58 AM
Feb 2014

a week ago, like you pointed out, that Ukraine is in pre-default status. CCC rating. $35 billion is more than what the Russian deal offered, which was $15 billion, if I'm remembering right.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
9. Why waste time? They're going to cut to it, too.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:53 AM
Feb 2014

Its better than having the realization 6-18 months later when listening to the FRONTLINE narrator mimic the act of talking under one's breath. (This is the way PBS breaks new stories-- when they're no longer news.)

I'm of the opinion that these (still referenced as) 'protesters' lobbing bricks (not rocks) and shooting rifles at the police were counting on the pro-Russian government treating them with kid gloves during the Olympics.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
13. The mass violence was carefully timed . . .
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:45 AM
Feb 2014

No doubt about that.

They did have to hurry a bit at the end: Having to get the Constitution altered, Yanukovich impeached and removed, his majority in the Rada dismissed or run off and the use of police to control unrest in Kiev outlawed, all during Friday night and Saturday. It was that important to beat the Olympic closing ceremony on Sunday (just to be safe, don't you know).

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. In the case of Greece that was French and German arms.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:51 AM
Feb 2014

Greece was prohibited from lowering its defence budget.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
10. I prefer to look to Poland for parallels in this case
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:58 AM
Feb 2014

Ukranian fascists want to be the bees knees of NATO "investment".

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. Who needs schools and roads her?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:38 AM
Feb 2014

Let's run up our credit card for people on the other side of the planet.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
8. Over Two MILLION Americans are BEGGING and PLEADING for 6 billion
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:52 AM
Feb 2014

to pay for unemployment extensions. By November it will be FIVE million laid off, desperate Americans.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
15. But Ukraine needs a missile defense system . . .
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:50 AM
Feb 2014

A hugely expensive, largely ineffective monster of missile defense system. Want to bet they don't get one?

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
16. Ukraine would have more freedom and more money by going Crowd-Sourcing
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:23 AM
Feb 2014

People could decide for themselves if a regime was worthy, or if a people were legitimately in need.

Then the Banksters and Gangsters and Political Tools would be out of luck, and have no toehold.

And the money would have no strings--except they better spend it right, or no one will donate to them again!

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
19. Analysis here : What economic help for Ukraine?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:35 AM
Feb 2014

The country's finance ministry has said that $35bn will be needed over the next two years.

The European Union Commissioner for Economic Affairs, Olli Rehn, has said that substantial aid could be on the agenda. US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew said the best approach would involve "international support through the IMF and bilateral support".

Ukraine does have $15bn lending programme agreed with Russia, and has already received a first instalment - worth one-fifth of the total. But further payments from Russia are unlikely if Ukraine ends up with a government keen to turn towards the EU.

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But Ukraine's recent experience with the IMF has not been successful.

The previous lending programme, the IMF says, "went off track as the authorities stopped implementing the agreed policies".

In reviewing that episode, the IMF even went so far as to suggest that it might be useful for future IMF lending programmes to have "a mechanism to terminate off-track arrangements".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26324686

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
20. That would buy a lot of rubber tires to burn in the town square
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:51 AM
Feb 2014

Hopefully they have started cleaning up the mess.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
21. Switzerland and the Cayman Islands are
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:08 AM
Feb 2014

full of billions from Russian oligarchs, including Putin. Ukraine can get in line to collect from the looters in their own country as well as Russia.

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