Teacher found dead outside Mass. high school; 14-year-old in custody

[savalez]

Source: NBC

A math teacher was found dead Wednesday in the woods outside her Massachusetts high school, and authorities said they would charge a 14-year-old student with murder.

The body of the teacher, identified as Colleen Ritzer, 24, was found just after midnight in the woods near Danvers High School, about a half-hour outside Boston. Blood was found in a second-floor bathroom at the school, authorities said.

Authorities said their murder investigation was connected to their search for a missing 14-year-old boy the day before, but they did not explicitly say that he was the juvenile charged in the killing.

They said the 14-year-old charged with murder would be arraigned later Wednesday. They did not discuss a motive, nor how the teacher was killed.

Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/23/21093182-teacher-found-dead-outside-mass-high-school-14-year-old-in-custody?lite

[onehandle]

1. I'll take Gun for $500, Bob. nt

[B2G]

3. You lose

Reports are she was stabbed.

[onehandle]

5. Pretty sure the teacher lost.

If only she had been wrapped in dynamite.

[B2G]

9. So nice of you to express your condolences

instead of going directly for a pet cause.

[savalez]

10. Considering recent and past events

I'd say it was a good guess.

[The Stranger]

32. The only way to stop a bad guy with a box cutter . . .

. . . is a good guy with a box cutter.

We all need box cutters now.

I win!

[Ranchemp.]

4. Pay up, you lose.

She was stabbed to death, not shot.

[onehandle]

6. Well, gungeoneers and their sock puppets had a good day then. nt

[Ranchemp.]

7. Why?

[onenote]

13. And if it had turned out that she was shot

would that have been a "good day" for supporters of gun control legislation? Of course not.

Your comment is grotesquely offensive. And I say that as someone who would put his anti-gun credentials up against anyone here. (Among other things, I handled, on a pro bono basis, the incorporation as a non-profit, the organization "Handgun Control Inc" that later morphed in the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence, served as an officer of the organization for a time, and continue to support it financially. I also am married to someone who was the victim of gun violence.

[onehandle]

14. No, it wouldn't be 'a good day for supporters of gun control legislation.' It would be the norm.

Guns are the primary weapon to kill people.

[B2G]

15. But the lack of discussion on this

is telling.

Had he shot her, there would be 50 threads on GD right now.

[onehandle]

16. The knives vs guns memo is an ancient NRA strawman.

Delivered here by basement dwellers and their sockpuppets.

[Guaguacoa]

27. My suggestion as someone that does not live

in the US is to try and find out why kids are killing each other rather than squabble over what they use. There's a very obvious problem there if a kid will take a box cutter to a teacher and then calmly go to the movies. I'm not saying guns are not a problem, but with attitudes like this nothing short of figuring out what has gone wrong will really do anything long lasting.

[24601]

17. What a tragedy. It's my observation, however, that if she had been shot, it would have been the

headline in all the news stories about the killing. Since a gun wasn't used, it took a lot of digging to find out how it happened. Sadly, the reasonable inference is that the media cares less about her murder than about scoring points as if the gun/anti-gun issue is a game.

[Throd]

25. Sadly, I agree with you.

Some tragedies are more profitable to the media biz than others...

[warrant46]

21. There are quite a few acolytes of ignorance running around on this subject

On both sides.

The reason half of the country is red is because guys like Bloomberg run around screaming wolf every time something happens.

The reason you can not buy a box of .22 shells to shoot rats is because the NRA whipped up a panic and billions of rounds of every description stay on the shelves for all of 5 minutes before they are bought and hoarded.

In my county there are more murders done with knives, hands and hammers than guns.

Seizing all of the guns does nothing to address the phenomenon of why Cain killed Able ( I don't think he used a gun)

[onehandle]

22. You must live in Amish country.

What county is this place where knives, hands and hammers defy national statistics?

[warrant46]

23. OOPS as the retired DA of my county I forgot to add DRUNK DRIVERS

[onehandle]

24. You have people drinking and driving for the purpose of committing murder?

That does sound like an interesting place.

[warrant46]

20. It was a Box Cutter The Islamics favorite tool

Amazing how 19 Nut Jobs with BOX CUTTERS changed the face of america



And for those who need a link


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2473210/Danvers-High-school-boy-Philip-Chism-charged-murder-teacher-Colleen-Ritzer.html



A teenager, charged with murder after his math teacher was found slashed to death with a box cutter, had hid out in the school with the weapon he stole from an art class, sources claimed tonight.

Apparently the school had BOX CUTTERS in the art class

[MissMillie]

2. Boston news was reporting that the schools were closed

in Danvers today over a homicide investigation, but they didn't elaborate.

Now we know why.....

[ffr]

8. Teaching. Most dangerous occupation. May be hazardous to your health.

Every student could be a ticking time bomb.

[bigdarryl]

11. BUT they are to OVER PAID!! according to the rethugs

[ffr]

12. Too bad teachers don't have sports contract agents

They'd be paid millions.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

18. Overpaid, underworked, overvalued and over-appreciated

I mean. . .all the danger and work of a job that pays $35K a year to start.

Talk about a selling point. Put yourself in student loan debt for $100K for a job that pays $35K gross before taxes.

[davidpdx]

19. Update

He will be tried as an adult unless his lawyer is successful in petitioning the case to juvenile court

http://abcnews.go.com/US/massachusetts-teen-charged-fatal-stabbing-danvers-high-school/story?id=20656240

[grantcart]

28. Wow, thanks for the link

Law enforcement sources told ABC News there is surveillance video inside the high school that shows the student hauling Ritzer's body from the bathroom toward the woods in what appeared to be a recycle bin. The school is a new building and is equipped with 130 cameras, officials said.

[davidpdx]

34. Well I would think most of the surveillance cameras would be obvious as to where they are located

The new ones are those half bubbles attached to the ceiling that can see every direction. This kid clearly knew he was going to get caught as he immediately went on the run. Dragging a recycling bin down the hallway and out into the woods is pretty suspicious, much more when the size and shape is that of a grown person.

If the state can prove premeditation, then I think they'd go for the longest possible sentence.

[gopiscrap]

26. Oh my God, how many school gun incidents does that make already

for this academic year?

[grantcart]

29. She was stabbed at school and her body was taken to the woods.

Full updated report:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/massachusetts-teen-charged-adult-stabbing-death-danvers-teacher/story?id=20656240

[gopiscrap]

33. thanks...I meant violent incidents I was thinking gubs in my head

my wife is a teacher and I am very sensitive to school violence

[Ranchemp.]

30. No gun involved,

she was slashed to death with a box cutter.

[Guaguacoa]

31. Gun? Box cutter. nt

[davidpdx]

35. By the way there are two groups on Facebook where you can leave your condolences if you wish:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Loving-Memory-of-Colleen-Ritzer/228016694025509

https://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Colleen-Ritzer/563836613671219