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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:13 AM Oct 2013

Hackers blamed for New York's Obamacare site breakdown

Source: NY Post

The numbers just don’t add up.
The “abnormally high traffic” that crippled New York’s ObamaCare Web site for two days may have resulted from a malicious attack by hackers, computer-security experts said Wednesday.

The NY State of Health site recorded an astounding 10 million visits after opening for business Tuesday — although there are only about 1.1 million state residents without health insurance and just 330,000 are expected to buy ObamaCare for next year.

Read more: http://nypost.com/2013/10/03/hackers-blamed-for-new-yorks-obamacare-site-breakdown/

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Hackers blamed for New York's Obamacare site breakdown (Original Post) LiberalElite Oct 2013 OP
And I'd bet they've been 'helping' the fed site too n/t durablend Oct 2013 #1
There appears to be some confusion about the number of uninsured. surrealAmerican Oct 2013 #2
Curiosity... Maybe folks want to switch jobs and want to explore options? targetpractice Oct 2013 #26
These assholes really don't want people to get health insurance IronLionZion Oct 2013 #3
(Or it's the same folks who hacked Anthony Weiner) Orsino Oct 2013 #11
Or a hack is just bitchkitty Oct 2013 #20
Anthony Weiner hacked Anthony Weiner frylock Oct 2013 #28
Or is it that the ACA modrepub Oct 2013 #29
Is a anyone surprised? Hackers love to muck up whatever they can get into. 7962 Oct 2013 #4
I agree, Lets kick the hackers as hard as we can in the nuts Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #7
Those willing to compromise digital voting machines would have no problem groovedaddy Oct 2013 #5
This is when I am in favor of drone attacks on civilians. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #6
Where is the NAS? Hope they are this one. DhhD Oct 2013 #8
I think two things are going on.... ReRe Oct 2013 #9
I'll bet they can trace it to durablend Oct 2013 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #12
Probably just the curious SansACause Oct 2013 #13
It could be, but it is a situation that invites foul play. alfredo Oct 2013 #17
its could be the internet teahadists. Historic NY Oct 2013 #14
Why am I not surprised alfredo Oct 2013 #15
It's so much easier to blame anonymous hackers than to get some real data Demeter Oct 2013 #16
We have heard about the slow down due to traffic. Still it alfredo Oct 2013 #19
It's criminal DDS. Investigate, charge, prosecute, convict, sentence, publicize. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #18
There really is a lack of criminal charges against the Re/Teapukes on so many levels. hue Oct 2013 #21
Beck & FR & other Tea Party units have been accessing it to keep it busy Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #22
Here is the logo they've been using Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #23
Called it Lancero Oct 2013 #24
Proponents of online voting should take note! Coyotl Oct 2013 #25
And their name is Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #27
Sure they can trace it, every IP that comes into that site they can trace, benld74 Oct 2013 #30
A major talking point in the RX Noise Machine has been the "failure" to handle the traffic.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #31
The GOP will do anything to try to make ACA fail.Not to mention Obama.Sorry, assholes, you're losing judesedit Oct 2013 #32

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
2. There appears to be some confusion about the number of uninsured.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:33 AM
Oct 2013

According to the Buffalo News:

The state estimates there are a total of 2.7 million uninsured residents, and less than half of those are expected to actually sign up for insurance through the ACA.


Either way, it still doesn't add up to anywhere close to 10 million, but I do wonder where these numbers are coming from.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
26. Curiosity... Maybe folks want to switch jobs and want to explore options?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:15 AM
Oct 2013

If site developers assumed that only a fraction of the uninsured would visit the site... that's poor planning.

Im not insured, I visited several times during the day, but never got through.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
3. These assholes really don't want people to get health insurance
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:33 AM
Oct 2013

they're willing to shut down the federal gov to hold us all hostage, of course they are probably willing to attack high profile websites as well.

If it were a defense or intel site, they would be caught and prosecuted for terrorism.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. (Or it's the same folks who hacked Anthony Weiner)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:37 AM
Oct 2013

I have wondered why the Kochs wouldn't spend a relative pittance for sustained DDoS attacks, when the spend millions otherwise to take down Obamacare.

But sometimes a "hack" is just poor web site implementation and high demand.

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
20. Or a hack is just
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:41 AM
Oct 2013

poor web site design and a kid with time on his hands.

But I don't think in this particular instance that it was a kid.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
29. Or is it that the ACA
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

is such a great fundraiser that Kock and friends don't want it to get enacted and go away as an issue?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. Is a anyone surprised? Hackers love to muck up whatever they can get into.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:51 AM
Oct 2013

Its time to really start trying to track these types down aggressively. We've seen too many govt sites hit recently. CIA, Defense, etc

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
7. I agree, Lets kick the hackers as hard as we can in the nuts
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:19 AM
Oct 2013

There are a shit pot of them at the NSA, and we know they could give a rip about the law.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. I think two things are going on....
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:35 AM
Oct 2013

.... paid hackers AND millions of honest people who need to sign up. Did anyone hear the NPR report yesterday AM? They played audio from California as they kicked off their ACA website on Tuesday morning. They were thrilled to death. "This is how good government works!"... or something like that, with cheering in the background. You'd have thought it was a different country, compared to the MSM.

Response to LiberalElite (Original post)

SansACause

(520 posts)
13. Probably just the curious
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:12 AM
Oct 2013

I know a lot of people who have health insurance who tried to log onto the exchanges just to check them out. It could be hackers, but it seems to me more like the phenomenon of everybody trying to go to the new restaurant that just opened to try the food.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
17. It could be, but it is a situation that invites foul play.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:34 AM
Oct 2013

I am not too sure about the journalistic vigor at the NYPost, but will wait and see if there is more evidence. I guess I should be monitoring Free republic to see if there is any bragging.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
16. It's so much easier to blame anonymous hackers than to get some real data
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:34 AM
Oct 2013

and so irresponsible, too.

Given the ridiculous complexity of Obamacare, the software may have been stressed beyond the design specs, but we will never hear about that....

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
19. We have heard about the slow down due to traffic. Still it
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:38 AM
Oct 2013

is a perfect situation for a denial of service attack.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
18. It's criminal DDS. Investigate, charge, prosecute, convict, sentence, publicize.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

Distributed Denial of Service attacks (DDS), done by hordes of computers that have been taken over by virus or worm or malicious website (all malware), requires purchasing services from a criminal enterprise that specializes in such attacks, or actively setting up an equal bot-net to do it. Both approaches are criminal. A third way would be to use a large server farm, but that would reveal itself by a small cluster of IP addresses and I don't think they'd be that stupid.

Find out who is at the bottom of the evil attack!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
22. Beck & FR & other Tea Party units have been accessing it to keep it busy
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 09:50 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3073373/posts?page=17#17

To: wbill

Well, given their penchant for attacking and lying about the Tea Party, if they don’t blame the tea party they’re missing a bet...

Besides, right here on FR people are admitting and chortling about going there for no reason other than to mess with it.

Glenn Beck was talking about it on his radio show, that is, doing it himself along with his radio sidekicks also doing it.

The Leftards monitor this site and conservative talk radio therefore they know.

Easiest thing for them to do is to say the Tea Party is crashing the website that would otherwise be giving you affordable healthcare.

Because the TP wants you to go without healthcare.

If they don’t, well, they missed a golden opportunity.

If they do - then - true to form.

17 posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:55:44 PM by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. A major talking point in the RX Noise Machine has been the "failure" to handle the traffic....
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:32 PM
Oct 2013

Watch it turn out the attack is all part of that.

Three guesses where it originated.

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