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Eugene

(61,874 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 09:06 AM Feb 2012

2 U.S. officers dead in Afghan shooting

Source: CBS/Associated Press

February 25, 2012 7:16 AM

2 U.S. officers dead in Afghan shooting

(CBS/AP)

KABUL, Afghanistan - Two American military officers were killed inside the heavily-barricaded Interior Ministry in the center of Afghanistan's capital Saturday, CBS News reports.

Mandy Clark, reporting from Kabul, reports the government offices are under lockdown after a U.S. colonel and major were shot dead in the ministry.

The shooting occurred as protesters threw rocks at police, government buildings and a U.N. office in eastern Afghanistan, kicking off a fifth day of riots sparked by the burning of Korans at a U.S. base, officials said.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57385116/2-u.s-officers-dead-in-afghan-shooting/

The article continues with other events across Afghanistan.

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BadtotheboneBob

(413 posts)
2. All for naught...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 09:34 AM
Feb 2012

Their deaths, and every other death, ISAF or Afghani, will be judged to be a waste. Ther is nothing, absolutely nothing, that anyone can do to change Afghanistan from what it is and what it will always be. A brutal, medieval, religio-crazy land of tribal/ethnic regions ruled by ruthless avaricious warlords that care only for power and their immediate families and minions. We can not leave soon enough.

 

Fool Count

(1,230 posts)
6. It wasn't always like that. In late 60s - early 70s it was among the most progressive
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:13 AM
Feb 2012

countries in Islamic world with a broadly popular Communist party which led a socialist revolution there
in 1978. It wasn't until 1980s, when CIA and ISI unleashed the jihadist plague on the country and flooded
it with Saudi and Libyan terrorists to fight the Soviets, that it turned into the nightmarish hellhole that it
is now. Say thank you to vahhabite Saudi "benefactors" - those "friends of Afghanistan" who put three
generations of Afghani boys through militant jihadist indoctrination. Now the same "friends of Syria"
want to repeat the procedure there - with the same enthusiastic support from their American backers.
Don't people ever learn?

BadtotheboneBob

(413 posts)
8. Guess who started the CIA activities?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:25 PM
Feb 2012

Jimmy Carter, 'Operation Cyclone'. Carter signed an executive order on July 3, 1979 authorizing funding for CIA covert activities. He later said in December '79, "The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the greatest threat to peace since the Second World War". In a roundabout way he was prophetic as we have the mess we have 32+ years later.

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
12. The fanatical islamist textbooks used to indoctrinate Afghan kids came from the US government
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 04:31 PM
Feb 2012
Why has the US been Shipping Muslim Extremist Schoolbooks into Afghanistan...for 20 Years?

And why is President Bush hiding it?


By Jared Israel

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Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd. [1]

Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then [i.e., since the violent destruction of the Afghan secular government in the early 1990s] as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..."
-- Washington Post, 23 March 2002
See footnote [1]

According to the Post the U.S. is now "...wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism."

So the books made up the core curriculum in Afghan schools. And what were the unintended consequences? The Post reports that according to unnamed officials the schoolbooks "steeped a generation in [Islamist] violence."

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/jihad.htm

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. Afghan Taliban claim killed U.S. officers over Koran burnings
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:57 AM
Feb 2012

(Reuters) - The Afghan Taliban claimed responsibility for the killing of two Americans, believed to be a colonel and a major in the U.S. military, in Afghanistan's Interior Ministry on Saturday.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/02/25/uk-afghanistan-korans-idUKTRE81L09720120225

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
5. BBC
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:08 AM
Feb 2012
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17163322

"Afghan security officials said those killed were an American colonel and major. Local media reports suggest the incident followed a "verbal clash".

"The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says eight shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance."

MaineDem

(18,161 posts)
7. Afghanistan NATO Staff Recalled Following Attack At Interior Ministry
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:57 AM
Feb 2012

KABUL, Afghanistan -- The commander of NATO and U.S. forces says that all NATO personnel are being recalled from Afghan ministries following an attack at the Interior Ministry in Kabul.

Gen. John Allen says staff are being recalled "for obvious force protection reasons." He says NATO is investigating Saturday's shooting and will pursue all leads to find the person responsible for the attack.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/25/afghanistan-nato-staff-recall_n_1301025.html

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
9. We need to get the FUC* out of there. . .
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 01:29 PM
Feb 2012

We're not wanted; we're not going to change things, and we need to cut our losses now and get O-U-T!! What is our ultimate goal there? From what the military leaders will say, "We are so close to victory in Afghanistan." Remind anybody of Vietnam?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
13. Instead of just saying "Oops, sorry about those Korans getting burnt up", how about Obama says
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:09 PM
Feb 2012

"... and the US is going to show you HOW sorry we are, by leaving Afghans to
run their own country for a change.

Not that it will be pretty, how that plays out on the ground there, but at least
the US Blood & Treasure won't continue to be shoveled into a black hole to make
things progressively worse and worse and worse. geesh.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. K&R
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:51 PM
Feb 2012
[font size=4]NATO personnel recalled from Afghan ministries after killing of 2 Americans[/font]

Washington Post | By Kevin Sieff | Updated: Saturday, February 25, 5:02 PM


STRINGER/REUTERS - Afghan protesters shout anti-U.S. slogans during a protest in Kunduz province. Four people were shot dead by Afghan security forces on Saturday as protests over the burnings of the Muslim holy book at a NATO base erupted for a fifth day, with an attempt by demonstrators to bombard a U.N. compound in the north.

KABUL — The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan on Saturday recalled all NATO personnel working in Afghan ministries in the Kabul area — a bold and potentially divisive response to the killing of two American service members by an Afghan security official in the country’s fortified Interior Ministry earlier in the day.

Marine Gen. John R. Allen’s directive comes five days after U.S. military personnel burned a pile of Korans at the largest military base in Afghanistan in an apparently inadvertent act that set off violent protests across the country. More than 25 Afghans have died in those demonstrations, and four NATO soldiers have been killed by men wearing Afghan security uniforms since Thursday, when the Taliban urged Afghan soldiers and police to turn their weapons on their Western counterparts.

The week’s events have exposed a core vulnerability of the Obama administration’s strategy for winding down the decade-long Afghan war: a fraying trust between two presumed allies who must depend on each other to keep the insurgency at bay.

Although mutual suspicions have been building for some time, the Koran burnings followed by the apparent revenge killings of U.S. military personnel will make it much harder for both sides to agree in the coming weeks on the specific terms and timetable of NATO’s planned withdrawal from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

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alp227

(32,019 posts)
16. next time the military should keep its koran-burning/corpse-pissing secret.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 09:57 PM
Feb 2012

Don't let the actions get caught on video or seen in public.

Eugene

(61,874 posts)
17. BBC: Afghan police officer sought over Kabul Nato killings
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:51 AM
Feb 2012

Source: BBC

26 February 2012 Last updated at 10:09 GMT

Afghan police officer sought over Kabul Nato killings

An Afghan police intelligence officer is being sought over the killing of two senior US Nato officers at the interior ministry in Kabul on Saturday.

Abdul Saboor, from Parwan province, was "the main suspect" and had fled the ministry following Saturday's attack, officials told the BBC.

Nato withdrew all its personnel from Afghan ministries after the shooting.

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