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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:23 AM Feb 2012

Obama to propose corporate tax rate of 28 percent

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by racaulk (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

(Reuters) - The Obama administration on Wednesday will propose cutting the top tax rate for corporations to 28 percent, and pay for it by eliminating dozens of tax loopholes companies now use to lower their rates, a senior administration official said.

Chances of a deeply divided Congress revamping a tax system regarded as convoluted across the political spectrum seems remote in an election year, but the announcement is certain to fuel debate in the run-up to November's elections.

The plan, over a year in the making, is President Barack Obama's first official foray into overhauling the tax code, which most experts believe badly needs a revamp after years of being loaded up with special provisions.

The centerpiece is a cut in the top corporate rate - now at 35 percent, among the highest in the industrialized world. That will appeal to businesses, which gripe that the current U.S. rate puts them at a competitive disadvantage.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/22/us-usa-tax-corporate-idUSTRE81K25N20120222

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Obama to propose corporate tax rate of 28 percent (Original Post) dipsydoodle Feb 2012 OP
Hope! Change!!! AngryAmish Feb 2012 #1
the effective corporate tax rate is now 12.1% due to exemptions and deductions banned from Kos Feb 2012 #7
+1 mac56 Feb 2012 #10
This moving over seas is extortion. nineteen50 Feb 2012 #19
Thank You. They didn't pay that 35% corporate tax rate anyway. n/t shcrane71 Feb 2012 #20
corporations are people, right? greymattermom Feb 2012 #11
Before the inevitable dogpile begins I have to say this is a pretty shrewd move. mac56 Feb 2012 #2
It is indeed an astute shrewd move. dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #4
+1 sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #14
Spam deleted by Skinner (MIR Team) hduif89a Feb 2012 #3
Get a life dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #6
But they 'accept the paypal.' onehandle Feb 2012 #15
Whoever this is dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #16
That rate's going to be lowered and those loopholes aint'a going ANYwhere. HughBeaumont Feb 2012 #5
This is the takeover. You are exactly correct. woo me with science Feb 2012 #8
It ain't easy raising a billion dollars for re-election JJW Feb 2012 #9
I've heard an ad on talk radio promising corporations to reduce their tax rate to 2%, 1%, or Zero. onehandle Feb 2012 #12
I would support it providing the loopholes are "all" closed so cstanleytech Feb 2012 #13
How 'bout we JUST CUT THE LOOPHOLES? What about the deficit? Deficit! Deficit! Deficit! Cut Taxes! grahamhgreen Feb 2012 #17
You're right. There is a problem. But can we say that "we know" or "we know how ..."? AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #22
If it increases tax revenue by closing loopholes and making them ALL pay taxes, then I'm all for it jpak Feb 2012 #18
Other than being a gesture that will help with the re-election, this will be meaningless unless AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #21
Locking. racaulk Feb 2012 #23
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
1. Hope! Change!!!
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:27 AM
Feb 2012
 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
7. the effective corporate tax rate is now 12.1% due to exemptions and deductions
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:44 AM
Feb 2012

The system is broken and favors moving operations overseas for shelters.

If done properly 28% is a win for Democrats and workers and a loss for corporations who move jobs offshore.

mac56

(17,569 posts)
10. +1
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:58 AM
Feb 2012

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
19. This moving over seas is extortion.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
Feb 2012

If you pay it will happen over and over again. Make all government, federal, state and local, contracts so that an increasing amount of American products and services must be used in filling the contracts. This will get corporations back to America the money hole of consumption.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
20. Thank You. They didn't pay that 35% corporate tax rate anyway. n/t
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:37 AM
Feb 2012

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
11. corporations are people, right?
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:59 AM
Feb 2012

That is certainly a fair tax rate, then. Corporations should also be subject to the AMT.

mac56

(17,569 posts)
2. Before the inevitable dogpile begins I have to say this is a pretty shrewd move.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:28 AM
Feb 2012

Lowering the tax rate is a small price to pay for closing a good many of the loopholes. Besides, which Repo wants to go back to his or her state or district, and say they voted against lowering corporate taxes? It would be suicide.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. It is indeed an astute shrewd move.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:32 AM
Feb 2012

.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
14. +1
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:04 AM
Feb 2012

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. Get a life
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:34 AM
Feb 2012

you POS.

This is in response to a real nuisance you re-registers almost daily in order to post a spam advert.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
15. But they 'accept the paypal.'
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:07 AM
Feb 2012

You're just mad because, 'All your base are belong to us.'

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
16. Whoever this is
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:11 AM
Feb 2012

gets tombstoned every day or so. I doubt they ever pay anything.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. That rate's going to be lowered and those loopholes aint'a going ANYwhere.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:33 AM
Feb 2012

Our wages are going to be lowered even further, the inequality gap will widen and American workers will sit like compliant sheep and take it . . . because where ELSE ya gonna go?

Tax cuts are NOT an economic stimulus.

I have a feeling one or two more wealth-favoring moves such as this and things are going to get really ugly really fast for the parasites.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. This is the takeover. You are exactly correct.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:49 AM
Feb 2012

They have been building up to this. We are now in the stage of outright assault.

The tipping of Europe and the new war will be the culminating factors they need to justify restructuring everything, and we know what that restructuring will mean.

We are heading into a new age of serfdom, and our options will be submission or revolution. It's not going to be pretty.

 

JJW

(1,416 posts)
9. It ain't easy raising a billion dollars for re-election
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:55 AM
Feb 2012

Most politicians would sell off the middle class to get elected into the DC millionaires club.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
12. I've heard an ad on talk radio promising corporations to reduce their tax rate to 2%, 1%, or Zero.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:00 AM
Feb 2012

Some accounting firm.

Specifically naming President Obama as the 'cause' of their 'high' tax rates.

So after this reduction, taxpayers will be funding corporations even more.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
13. I would support it providing the loopholes are "all" closed so
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:02 AM
Feb 2012

that companies like GE cant weasel out of paying their taxes.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
17. How 'bout we JUST CUT THE LOOPHOLES? What about the deficit? Deficit! Deficit! Deficit! Cut Taxes!
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:14 AM
Feb 2012

Sounds like another party I know.

Alright, I can compromise - cut the loopholes FIRST.

Then we'll talk about the other.

Problem is, we know how Obama compromises and winds up selling out our core values. Yes, I agree it is possible to come up with a net gain after closing loopholes and lowering taxes, I just don't see this President and Congress as able to deliver.

What we'll most likely wind up with is a tax bill similar to health care - a 2,000 page bill that corporate lawyers can drive truckloads of cash through.

Now, if the bill starts off like this - "No corporation shall pay less than 28% in taxes under penalty of the corporate board serving 20 years", I suppose that might be a start.....

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
22. You're right. There is a problem. But can we say that "we know" or "we know how ..."?
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:44 AM
Feb 2012

We know. But some don't want that discussed.

jpak

(41,758 posts)
18. If it increases tax revenue by closing loopholes and making them ALL pay taxes, then I'm all for it
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:17 AM
Feb 2012

yup

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
21. Other than being a gesture that will help with the re-election, this will be meaningless unless
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:39 AM
Feb 2012

the offshoring of American corporate profits can be stopped.

The DISC rules were passed just a few months before Nixon went to China. This was in the early 1970's. Other let's-protect-the-super-rich-by-allowing-them-to-transfer-jobs-and-move-money-to-foreign-countries rules have been added over the years. That's the way that it has been for 40 years.

Increasing the corporate tax rates is a good idea. But the odds of actually changing the rules that allow money offshoring are slim to none. The big-money campaign contributors won't allow it.

racaulk

(11,550 posts)
23. Locking.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:51 AM
Feb 2012
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