Thu Aug 15, 2013, 09:39 PM
n2doc (34,037 posts)
Bert Lance, confidant of Jimmy Carter, dead at 82
Bert Lance, the former state highway director who helped Jimmy Carter climb to the presidency and then joined his White House administration, died Thursday evening. He was 82.
State Sen. Jason Carter, the former presidentís grandson, confirmed that President Carter was notified of Lanceís death within the last few hours.
Below is the top of the excellent advance obituary that my former AJC partner, Tom Baxter, wrote before he retired:
Bert Lance, who coined the phrase, ďIf it ainít broke, donít fix it,Ē advised politicians from Zell Miller to Jesse Jackson, and was director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Jimmy Carter, has died.
Read more: http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/political-insider/2013/aug/15/bert-lance-confidante-jimmy-carter-dead-82/
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Bert Lance, confidant of Jimmy Carter, dead at 82 (Original post)
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:21 AM
Rowdyboy (21,756 posts)
4. I always regretted that Carter appointed Lance Attorney General. He's was a crony-a decent guy
but a crony nonetheless. Barbara Jordan would have been such an excellent choice and Carter just pissed away a chance to make history.
Response to RudynJack (Reply #6)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 09:36 AM
Rowdyboy (21,756 posts)
7. How the hell did I confuse Bert Lance with Griffin Bell? And I wasn't posting drunk either.
Obviously early onset Alzheimers. Anyway, apologies to Bert for my idiotic mistake.
Jeez I'm getting feeble-minded.
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 09:21 AM
Divernan (11,464 posts)
5. Thoughts on Pres. Carter's grandson starting out in politics at the state senator level.
I was pleased to note in the OP article that President Carter's grandson is a state senator. Serving in a state legislature, as a statewide elected official (like state treasurer or attorney general) or in the cabinet of a state governor is an excellent and proven way to learn how the political system is designed, functions and impacts citizens in a myriad of ways in all aspects of their lives. And I'd add serving as chief of staff for a governor/congressperson would also provide the extensive knowledge/experience to jump into the political arena at the level of one's previous boss.
It offends me when individuals, particularly "legacy" kids of high level politicians - governors/presidents/vice-presidents/US congressmen start out their political careers running for their very first office at the federal congressional or state gubernatorial level. I don't care how many degrees one has accumulated, or how wealthy one is, or how politically connected one's parents are, or how big a corporation one has run.
Then throw in how some carpetbagging individuals move to a different state just in time to claim residency in order to run for high level office. The primary purpose of serving at a Congressional or gubernatorial level is to represent the interests of your HOME STATE constituents and the overall welfare of your home state. That means you should have extensive personal knowledge of and experience dealing with issues of prime concern to your state and its constituents. You should have a real, personal HISTORY in that state!
President Carter has never suffered from hubris, ego or greed. The fact that his grandson is starting a political career at the state legislative level is further evidence of the values Jimmy Carter has passed on to his family. His grandson sounds to be a very decent man, whose activities and pursuits reflect old-fashioned Democratic values. I hope he will eventually run for higher level office, whether in his home state or the U.S. Congress.
Response to frog64 (Reply #9)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:38 AM
Octafish (41,463 posts)
10. Being a great guy is one thing; chumming for BCCI, Jackson Stephens and Adnan Khashoggi is another.
BCCI, THE CIA AND FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE
As President Carter's former Director of the Office of Management and Budget, Bert Lance, testified,
There was an opportunity there for Kamal Adham to have done the kind of work he did with regard to Sadat's visit to Jerusalem and that sort of thing, and subsequently playing a role in regards to satisfying some of the Arab countries with regard to the action that Sadat had taken, both in going to Jerusalem and also in Camp David.(42)
The key role played by Adham in Camp David was apparently to encourage other Arab political figures not to repudiate Sadat for agreeing to peace with Israel. Although such attempts may have appeared unsuccessful in terms of public statements by Gulf rulers, it is clear that many of the Gulf rulers in private provided some support for Sadat, including then-Crown Prince and now King Faud of Saudi Arabia, who sought to strengthen ties with the United States as a means of defending the Saud family from a variety of possible instabilities.
The actual intent of BCCI and its Arab shareholders in participating with BCCI in the takeover of First American remains a matter of speculation. One article, appearing in the Washington Post on December 18, 1977, at the very beginning of the takeover efforts regarding First American and the National Bank of Georgia, described the intent of BCCI and the Arabs as gaining "access to the administration" through Lance.(43) The involvement of Gulf leaders in the takeover in Washington at the same time as the Camp David accords were put into place, would have been recognized within the Middle East at the time as an important symbolic gesture by each of them to strengthen ties with Israel's superpower sponsor, the United States. Their ownership of First American also would have providing a direct means to gain influence in the U.S. through the ownership of the bank.
To recapitulate: Adham was at the same time in business with a retired CIA station chief whose activities caused people in the U.S. and Saudi governments to question whether he was truly "retired," acting as an intermediary for the U.S. in negotiations regarding Camp David, and acting as a phony "lead shareholder" in a take-over of the largest bank in the nation's capital on behalf of BCCI. The simultaneity was thus either part of a larger political plan of Adham, BCCI, and people within the Carter Administration and the CIA, or merely a coincidence.
Questioned about the concurrence of these events, Adham has told U.S. investigators that they were unrelated, and thus, BCCI's purchase of First American was not a quid pro quo for Camp David. Instead, Adham has suggested that his involvement in these events, and BCCI's later involvement in financing the Presidential library, charities, and travel of President Jimmy Carter, for whom Camp David was the major achievement of his presidency, were in fact coincidence.(44)
Clark Clifford, in sworn interrogatories, stated that he, too, believed Adham's roles in Camp David and in the simultaneous takeover of Financial General were coincidence. Clifford stated that while Adham had told him of his friendship with Sadat, he had not advised Clifford of having any role in Camp David.(45)
PS: Welcome to DU, frog64! Love your attitude toward the South and our fellow Democrats!
Response to Octafish (Reply #10)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 06:46 PM
Cooley Hurd (23,847 posts)
12. Thank you Octafish!
As much as I don't WANT to dislike a Carter confidante, BCCI was a multi-tentacled beast that had its toe in most of the global scandals of the 1970's-2000's.