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Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:21 PM May 2013

Colbert concludes tea partiers are ‘a bunch of pussies’ after consulting his lawyer

Source: Raw Story

“...Why has my application for tax-exempt status never been granted?” he asked his lawyer, Trevor Potter.

“Because we never filed it,” Potter replied, to Colbert’s surprise, since his 501 (c)(4) group was doing business and had handled at least hundreds of thousands of dollars, in Potter’s estimation.

“How is that possible, that I didn’t apply?” Colbert asked. “Am I breaking the law?”

Potter took that opportunity to remind the Colbert Report host that he was not legally obligated to apply for tax-exempt status in the first place.

“So wait a second,” Colbert said, stifling a laugh. “So you can form a 501 (c) (4) without asking to form one.” When Potter confirmed that, Colbert got a little giddier.

“So these tea party, anti-big government organizations didn’t have to ask big government for permission, but they did anyway?” Colbert asked as a follow-up.

“Right,” Potter answered....

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/21/colbert-concludes-tea-partiers-are-a-bunch-of-pussies-after-consulting-his-lawyer/



Be sure to check out the video lower down in the article too, it's great!

I hope Raw Story is still O.K. here, it's been a while since I've posted to LBN.
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Colbert concludes tea partiers are ‘a bunch of pussies’ after consulting his lawyer (Original Post) Up2Late May 2013 OP
I've been pushing the same point - 230 groups flagged for extra scrutiny NEVER WHINED ABOUT IT blm May 2013 #1
Dirty....Rotten...Scandrals !!!! maidensandiego May 2013 #3
They are total morons, babylonsister May 2013 #5
king george Chaco Dundee May 2013 #9
I've been wondering that myself... Up2Late May 2013 #10
You need to file the forms so taxes are not paid on contributions. former9thward May 2013 #14
I'm pretty sure you form a Tax Exempt "social welfare organization" to NOT pay taxes... Up2Late May 2013 #15
You need to file the form to get IRS exemption not to pay. former9thward May 2013 #18
He is a real lawyer, it's you who needs to read this section of the Law! Up2Late May 2013 #22
The Tea Party was astroturfed from the beginning so it only follows they would use every trick. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #2
Attack them as whiners incapable of accepting normal vetting process on FB and Twitter, too. blm May 2013 #4
WhineBaggers (R) Berlum May 2013 #6
LOLOL blm May 2013 #17
Whinebagger! Brigid May 2013 #26
I found these GREAT old video clips, last night, at The Daily Show's archive Up2Late May 2013 #7
Good stuff. I found a Rachel Maddox from that same time: freshwest May 2013 #12
What do they have to conceal? (NT) The Wizard May 2013 #11
Do you put political stuff on your facebook page? AngryAmish May 2013 #19
No - It goes on FB pages of news media posting about these topics blm May 2013 #20
oh, nevermind AngryAmish May 2013 #21
Oh yes, plenty of stuff. Up2Late May 2013 #23
Great stuff! nt babylonsister May 2013 #8
oh come on !! The teabaggers bravely serve in the 81st Chairborne!!! n/t cosmicone May 2013 #13
HAH! blm May 2013 #16
I don't get that reference at all... Up2Late May 2013 #24
Chair-borne as opposed to Air-borne? cosmicone May 2013 #30
Ah! I get it! Sorry, my dyslexia was putting a L in there Up2Late May 2013 #31
Hope your ophthalmologist can do cosmicone May 2013 #32
Yeah, I'm probably going to try the Gas permiable contacts first... Up2Late May 2013 #33
They take a licking and keep on ticking? One_Life_To_Give May 2013 #25
kicking for later viewing! arcane1 May 2013 #27
I love Colbert gopiscrap May 2013 #28
I never liked using the word pussies to refer to a weak person, even in jest marshall May 2013 #29

blm

(113,057 posts)
1. I've been pushing the same point - 230 groups flagged for extra scrutiny NEVER WHINED ABOUT IT
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:26 PM
May 2013

the way the 70 tea party groups did, prompting their moron congressmen to make numerous inquiries to IRS.

Left groups and others are ACCUSTOMED to added scrutiny while Tea party groups feel they are entitled to a process that hands them what they want, no matter how undeserved. And we all KNOW how undeserved tax exempt status is for this cabal of morons and fascist tools.

 

maidensandiego

(64 posts)
3. Dirty....Rotten...Scandrals !!!!
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:41 PM
May 2013

All the NUTTY BAGGERS were out protesting a few of the IRS buildings across the country today. I wanna find one near or a reasonable distance.... from San Diego...and go PICKET with Signs right across from them... that state something to the effect of "And Our Tax $'s Got Us These Bunch of NUTS!" Fascist Tools they are !

babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
5. They are total morons,
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:50 PM
May 2013

but they managed to stir up a hornet's nest. Maybe that was their intent all along, making them less moronic?

Chaco Dundee

(334 posts)
9. king george
Tue May 21, 2013, 07:34 PM
May 2013

King George (shrub) used to say"Morans" .
I am still amused by that.by the way,I love the fountain to.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
10. I've been wondering that myself...
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:16 PM
May 2013

If they were just too stupid to think they needed to consult a good lawyer?

OR, did they file these forms knowing it would take a lot more time than seemed reasonable, then they could bitch about it and try to blame Obama for it?

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
14. You need to file the forms so taxes are not paid on contributions.
Tue May 21, 2013, 11:50 PM
May 2013

The lawyer in the OP needs to consult a lawyer who actually knows tax law.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
15. I'm pretty sure you form a Tax Exempt "social welfare organization" to NOT pay taxes...
Wed May 22, 2013, 02:01 AM
May 2013

...so why would you file a form to not pay taxes that you never planned to pay?

I don't think you fully understand how screwed up this law is, a 501 (c) (4) is basically a now legal way to launder unlimited amounts of campaign cash from anonymous donors, you don't have to tell the IRS anything about how much money passes through one of these Tax Exempt "social welfare organization." I know it sounds impossible, but that is how the law was written and how the SCOTUS interpreted it in the Citizens United case.

Btw, Trever Potter is the former commissioner (1991–1995) and chairman (1994) of the United States Federal Election Commission, he was there when this Law was written, so I'm pretty sure he's the guy to turn to if you have a question about this Law.

If you really want to understand how screwed up this law is, check out these videos, they explain it very well, the show won a Peabody Award for these "reports":

http://www.colbertnation.com/video/Trevor+Potter

If you prefer reading to watching some great video, here's a good summery of what he covered in the videos:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/19/colbert-super-pac_n_1212960.html

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
18. You need to file the form to get IRS exemption not to pay.
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:03 AM
May 2013

Again, the lawyer in the OP needs to consult a real lawyer -- not play one on TV.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
22. He is a real lawyer, it's you who needs to read this section of the Law!
Wed May 22, 2013, 02:44 PM
May 2013

This part of this Law is handled through the FEC, NOT the IRS. I know! It sounds crazy and wrong (and most who have read this part of the tax code agree that it's wrong) but that is how this section is written and how SCOTUS interpreted this section of the law.

blm

(113,057 posts)
4. Attack them as whiners incapable of accepting normal vetting process on FB and Twitter, too.
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:50 PM
May 2013

Their feeling of entitlement has been costing the taxpayers a whole lot of money for all these unnecessary investigations and hearings.

Dumbasses.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
7. I found these GREAT old video clips, last night, at The Daily Show's archive
Tue May 21, 2013, 07:07 PM
May 2013

...that really explain them well, from way back when they still called themselves "Tea Baggers."

Tempest in a Tea Party - Tea Bag Tyranny

The Correspondents Explain - Political Parties - The Tea Party

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Good stuff. I found a Rachel Maddox from that same time:
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:53 PM
May 2013


And Hitchens analyzed them:

Tea’d Off January 2011
By Christopher Hitchens

Forfeiting a both-houses Republican victory, rational conservatives ignored or excused the most hateful kind of populist claptrap (e.g., the fetid weirdness of Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project). The poison they’ve helped disseminate will still be in the American bloodstream when the country needs it least...

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/01/hitchens-201101

More of what Hitchens had to say:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/christopher-hitchens-slams-glenn-beck-tea-party-in-vanity-fair/


 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
19. Do you put political stuff on your facebook page?
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:04 AM
May 2013

That is incredibly strange.

I got all sorts of people as facebook friends. My kids babysitters, college buddies, guys from my golf club, etc. I can guarantee you that not a single one is in any way interested in my political beliefs. Why should they be?

blm

(113,057 posts)
20. No - It goes on FB pages of news media posting about these topics
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:53 AM
May 2013

Last edited Wed May 22, 2013, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)

not my personal one.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
23. Oh yes, plenty of stuff.
Wed May 22, 2013, 02:51 PM
May 2013

I grew up in Indiana, so most of the people I went to school with are Obama hating Republicans, so the few bits of Democratic/Pro-Obama stuff that I post is just a fraction of the RW crap I see them post everyday. If I could figure out how to block their RW crap without totally blocking my old friends, I would.

Thankfully, most of my Cousins are far Left Liberals.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
31. Ah! I get it! Sorry, my dyslexia was putting a L in there
Fri May 24, 2013, 05:46 PM
May 2013

Clairborne instead of Chairborne.

Plus I'm rapidly going blind, due to a degenerative eye disease (Keratoconus) I recently found out I have.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
32. Hope your ophthalmologist can do
Sat May 25, 2013, 11:35 AM
May 2013

a mini asymmetric laser radial keratotomy or intrastromal corneal ring segments. One or the other helps 90% of the patients.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
33. Yeah, I'm probably going to try the Gas permiable contacts first...
Mon May 27, 2013, 04:29 AM
May 2013

...because I think my eyes are still changing for a few more years yet.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
29. I never liked using the word pussies to refer to a weak person, even in jest
Thu May 23, 2013, 12:31 AM
May 2013

But I guess it's better than him saying they are fa@@ots.

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