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Sand Wind

(1,573 posts)
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:13 PM May 2013

Former IDF Chief: Syria chemical weapons must be met with response

Source: Haaretz

Former Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in a rare interview aired Tuesday that once it can be confidently determined the Assad regime is responsible for chemical weapons use in Syria not responding will send "the wrong message."

"Doing nothing, it's not an option," he said. When asked about his professional recommendation he suggested "trying to help the opposition in a more concrete way, like providing them, instead of non-lethal assistance…weapons, [and] maybe to impose a no-fly zone, at least on part of Syria."

Before any action, however, he said "it should be very clear that [Syrian President Bashar Assad] was aware of it and he was part of it."


Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/former-idf-chief-syria-chemical-weapons-must-be-met-with-response.premium-1.518594

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Former IDF Chief: Syria chemical weapons must be met with response (Original Post) Sand Wind May 2013 OP
Looks like the Israelis are now setting the lines in Syria and telling us what the options are. leveymg May 2013 #1
If USA dont act in Syria, prepare your body to be conscript for the war against Iran. Nt. Sand Wind May 2013 #2
Makes sense. Syria may have maybe used chemical weapons. We invade Iran. Fuddnik May 2013 #3
If you dont react to Syria, you have no credidibility in face of Iran, who will knowledge. Sand Wind May 2013 #7
Yeah, the 101st Chairborne Division Fumesucker May 2013 #4
I'll pass on both offers, thank you. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #25
Well, then I heartily encourage Israel to respond. Set up a no-fly zone, troops to secure TwilightGardener May 2013 #5
Israël need a world leader to react, If not, It will be perceive as a religious war. Sand Wind May 2013 #6
Syria is a religious war, and has been for decades. Sunni v Shi'ia, leveymg May 2013 #8
No Syria Is not a religious war, this Is a Russian propaganda. Sand Wind May 2013 #9
so when the takfiris say "Christians to Beirut, Alawites to the grave", what do you call it? Alamuti Lotus May 2013 #10
They did never say that you are being lied by Russian agent. Sand Wind May 2013 #11
I was in the area a couple months ago Alamuti Lotus May 2013 #12
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #13
What do you think of them? *nt Alamuti Lotus May 2013 #14
They where my heros, until this war. Sand Wind May 2013 #15
Destroyed seems a bit harsh, don't you think? Alamuti Lotus May 2013 #16
The Hezbollah, not the shiites...you found some Sand Wind May 2013 #17
That is true, those are your exact words Alamuti Lotus May 2013 #18
A "religious war" is (was) not inevitable anyway. Other countries (like Turkey) have similar ratios pampango May 2013 #20
"it should be very clear that was aware of it and he was part of it." IF (a big IF) Assad knew and pampango May 2013 #19
Screw him madokie May 2013 #21
chem weapons Steviehh May 2013 #22
If the Zionist state would choose to be a force of good in the region Stewland May 2013 #23
Go for it, Israel! You don't need our help. You got this! nt geek tragedy May 2013 #24

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Looks like the Israelis are now setting the lines in Syria and telling us what the options are.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:24 PM
May 2013

And, they have quite an echo chamber in much of the US mass media. Note who echoes the loudest.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
3. Makes sense. Syria may have maybe used chemical weapons. We invade Iran.
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:30 PM
May 2013

How much simpler could it get?



TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
5. Well, then I heartily encourage Israel to respond. Set up a no-fly zone, troops to secure
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:35 PM
May 2013

chem weapons--knock yourselves out, Israel. Use that 3 billion in aid we give ya.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. Syria is a religious war, and has been for decades. Sunni v Shi'ia,
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
May 2013

with the Israelis stirring shit between them and now trying to push the US into the middle of it.

No thank you.

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
10. so when the takfiris say "Christians to Beirut, Alawites to the grave", what do you call it?
Thu May 2, 2013, 02:27 AM
May 2013

and when they employ phrases in forums like "Satan's Alawite troops", "the Alawite army", "the Rafidite snakes", "the Assadite apostates", what the hell do you call it? I call it calculated obtuseness (on your part), but that's just what first comes to mind. I guess the Russians just made it all up; Sarah Palin saw it happen from her porch.

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
12. I was in the area a couple months ago
Thu May 2, 2013, 02:37 AM
May 2013

one of Sheikh Assir's thugs in Saida said that TO MY FACE. Russian agents?

Response to Alamuti Lotus (Reply #12)

 

Sand Wind

(1,573 posts)
15. They where my heros, until this war.
Thu May 2, 2013, 02:48 AM
May 2013

Now they will be destroy.
They make the mistake to choose against the people.

 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
16. Destroyed seems a bit harsh, don't you think?
Thu May 2, 2013, 03:08 AM
May 2013

I like how you can say that the Shiites will be destroyed, but it's not a religious war--with just a couple hours separating those remarks! What other thoughts do you have about the party--what do you think they're up to in Syria, if anything at all?

Just in case I go to sleep now, Takfiri, I just wanted to say that you really shouldn't have said that the family of another DU member should be hanged, I would prefer to keep you around for longer--I get bored sometimes and could use the entertainment.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
20. A "religious war" is (was) not inevitable anyway. Other countries (like Turkey) have similar ratios
Thu May 2, 2013, 06:38 AM
May 2013

of Sunnis and Shias and have no religious war. There is nothing inevitable about that.

Are we to assume that the Sunnis in Syria are inherently more violent than the Sunnis in Turkey right next door, so that any transition to a more representative government in Syria would inevitably lead to a 'religious war'?

What if, in March 2011 when those massive peaceful demonstrations began, Assad has said "Fine, three months from now I am leaving. Let's have a free and fair election with international monitors. You think you are ready for a more open and democratic government? I will take some credit for that development and wish you the best." This would have probably have led to a Sunni-led government since they are a majority in the country. But would it have led to a 'religious war'? Are Syrian Sunnis more malevolent than Turkish Sunnis?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
19. "it should be very clear that was aware of it and he was part of it." IF (a big IF) Assad knew and
Thu May 2, 2013, 06:11 AM
May 2013

authorized the use of chemical weapons (a hypothetical scenario at this point), then the world needs to do something. That does not mean an invasion or, necessarily, any direct military response.

The use of chemical weapons has been against international law since 1997 with the adoption of the Chemical Weapons Convention. There is a reason why 188 countries adopted this international convention. If we make no effort to enforce international law then the thugs and bullies of the world win. It becomes "every man for himself" and "might makes right".

My guess is that if (again hypothetically) the Syrian government is proven (the CWC has a verification provision) to have used chemical weapons, Russia will withdraw its support for Assad. Without a continuing flow of weapons and Russia's support on the Security Council, Assad will be toast and he will know it.

Steviehh

(115 posts)
22. chem weapons
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:36 AM
May 2013

Why are the Israeli's pausing? There must be a reason. They could do it quick. There is some problem in taking them out, Netanyahu?

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
23. If the Zionist state would choose to be a force of good in the region
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:55 AM
May 2013

Imagine if the Zionist state chose to be a force of good in the region and decided that its militaristic stance towards its neighbors only brings the cycle of violence forward. This attitude if accepted would upset the arms industry and all the hawks who depend upon conflict to line their nest. Peace is the only solution that preserves lives. Perhaps some of that 3 billion in American aid could be spent upon improving the economic outlook for the oppressed in the region.

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