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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:04 PM

Court lets stand Obama's China wind farm ban

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge said Friday she can't overturn President Barack Obama's decision to revoke a Chinese company's purchase of four wind farm projects in the vicinity of a U.S. naval facility's restricted airspace.

However, U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson said the Ralls Corporation has a right to a hearing over whether the White House should be forced to explain its decision.

In his September decision, Obama ordered Ralls Corporation, a company owned by Chinese nationals, to divest its interest in the wind farms it purchased earlier this year in Oregon. The wind farm sites are all in the vicinity of restricted air space near the Naval Weapons Systems Training Facility Boardman. The administration cites unspecified national security risks as the reason for blocking the transaction.

Ralls sued. Its CEO, Wu Jialiang, said in Beijing in October that his company would "never do anything that threatens U.S. national security."

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:44 PM

1. There should be no Chinese products, businesses, or investment until this hacking scandal

is over.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:47 PM

2. China is not your friend

The sooner you realize that, the better.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:49 PM

3. welcome to Politics

Where money is made, to be made.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:53 PM

4. Can a U.S. company own property in the vicinity of a Chinese military facility's restricted airspace

I highly doubt it.

The Chinese should STFU.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:24 PM

5. It has been said that a capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him with...

... but apparently that truism is mitigated under Obama.

The origin is disputed (Marx? Lenin? Stalin? or apocryphal? there is disagreement in Google-land.) but it has always seemed true to me. Fellas, China is not our friend. How many times do they have to demonstrate that fact?

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:34 PM

6. Its CEO, Wu Jialiang, said. . .

 

Okay, 吴佳亮, can we talk?

第一, you would never do anything that threatens US National Security. . .now, that statement would work here in China because people here are naive and gullible, but now you are playing by our rules in our country.

PROVE you won't! You are 共产党. Your interests are in the hegemony of 共产党. Your beliefs are in the ability of 共产党 to make itself more money and power. We're just supposed to accept what you say because you said it.

第二, if you won't do anything, sign a western style contract. Not the flowery worded contracts that say nothing here in China that are worthless, but a real contract with clauses, penalties and conditions. Since all contracts are heavy handed and tilted to support the Chinese side here in China, we reserve the right, as Americans in our country, to do the same for you. If you do not sign the contract "as is," you lose everything.

第三, and I will use your culture against you. . .breaking a contract is a loss of face, son! 面子 means honesty, according do 孔子, you know him. . .that guy whose thinking and philosophy your culture and society based itself upon. Remember him. . .in 南京, there is a temple called 夫子庙 that honors him near 新街口.

第四, you and businesses in your country, have a domestic (here in China) and international reputation of being backstabbing, two-faced liars. Hell, that stupid 钓鱼岛 crap with Japan only started in 1970 because 毛泽东 was told there is oil there. So, before 1970, 中华人民共和国 didn't care about 钓鱼岛. Now you do and claim, because of maps 1000 years ago, they are China.

Basically, 吴佳亮, prove you will do nothing to compromise national security, will abide by our laws (since most 共产党 members break their laws all the time because of their 关系 and can accept punishment without running to the skirt of 习近平 when the big, bad American government tells you to take a flying leap because you know, in your heart, contracts are made to be stretched and broken. It happens all the time here in China.

Again, I live in China. Don't give me racism. I've seen this everyday for six years.

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:16 AM

8. I would send you a PM, but I will adress your rant here

It sounds like you are a loyal viewer of CCTV--the equal of FOX here where all the viewers are brain dead.. You

have been programmed well to believe that this country (Meiguo) is some imperial power. If that the case, then

why would many of my Chinese students always pack the consulate in Beijing, or Shenyang to get US Visa? Can

you answer that question? You seem to be the only one who has made that statement. Interesting, I never

heard

any of my students in Dalian, or Shenyang say such a thing. Yes, I lived in Dalian and Shenyang. Spent time in

Beijing too.


Your arguements are a bit on the strange side.


by the way, why is it that China never comes up with an original invention other than fireworks? CHina: the copy and paste society.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:59 AM

9. Where did you get that??? I am addressing the Chinese business man and telling him

 

tough shit pal, you lost.

Oh my God, please re-read my posting.

On top of that, I would rather someone chop my privates off with a dull rusty butter knife than watch CCTV, or Hunan TV or Jiangsu TV or any crap they pass for news or entertainment here in China.

As for the copy and paste society: I echo your sentiments exactly.

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:22 AM

13. In China, copying is seen as a mark of skill and superiority

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323951904578290520134759306.html

February 8, 2013 7:14 PM EST
In Chinese Buildings, a Copycat Craze
Duplicating Versailles, the Chrysler Building or the White House is seen as a mark of skill and superiority
By BIANCA BOSKER

In Beijing, the new Wangjing SOHO complex, a trio of curvy office buildings designed by the internationally acclaimed architect Zaha Hadid, is slowly rising in the smog-filled skyline. Meanwhile, 1,000 miles south, a set of two buildings is going up—and the design looks just like Ms. Hadid's, say the backers of the Beijing complex.

The other development company has denied copying the design and coined a slogan about its project. "Never meant to copy," reads a pitch posted on the firm's official microblog. "Only want to surpass."

That motto could be the mantra for China's massive movement in architectural mimicry. To show they are making it big, the Chinese have turned to faking it big.

In recent years, some of the nation's real-estate developers and even government officials have been churning out detailed counterfeits of the West's greatest architectural hits, from Unesco World Heritage sites to Le Corbusier gems to Manhattan skyscrapers.

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Response to jsr (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:41 AM

14. Okay, you validated what I said

 

Copying is pretty much all people know how to do.

They are so proud of their paper, gunpowder, mariner's compass, movable type and irrigation systems.

Ask them what China has invented in the past 100 years. . .crickets.

But, according to them China is #1 because everyone says it, so it must be true.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:54 PM

7. Since I pay money each money to a British company for my gas and electricity,

I'm trying to figure out why people would object to a Chinese company supplying power?

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:35 AM

11. And in the UK we pay a US company.

Colour me cynical.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:56 AM

12. The location of the wind generators is apparently very near a major U.S.

high security defense facility.

It is a security precaution.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:20 AM

10. I believe Boardman has a chemical weapons depot

I've driven by it on the way out to Eastern Oregon.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:48 AM

15. It probably is near Boardman

This used to be a storage facility for chemical weapons but as far as I know, all munitions have been destroyed and the depot is slated for closure by 2015. And there is a bank of wind generators just to the west of the facility. In a way, it's good to see China caring about wind energy - look at statistics, China is now the world's leader in wind and renewable energy. Still, I would be very concerned about letting Chinese companies invest near U.S. military facilities given the fact that the recent hacking attacks have been traced to the Chinese military.

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