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alp227

(32,020 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:28 AM Jan 2013

White House open to future ‘grand bargain’ on taxes, spending

Source: Washington Post

The White House is eyeing a return to elements of a “grand bargain” it tried to reach late last year with House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) as perhaps the best hope of defusing a fresh threat to the U.S. economy in just two months, according to people familiar with the discussions.

As planning begins for the next phase of Washington’s fiscal wars, attention is turning to a strategy for avoiding deep automatic cuts to domestic and defense spending and averting a government default — which could all hit at the same moment.

Democratic and Republican officials say they could build on the grand bargain talks, which looked at raising new revenue through an overhaul of the tax code and reducing spending, including on Medicare, Social Security and other entitlement programs.

As in the earlier negotiations, however, there remain sticking points. How much new tax revenue would Republicans accept, especially now that tax rates on the wealthy are already climbing under the “fiscal cliff” agreement? And how far will President Obama go in meeting the GOP demand for deep spending cuts?

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/fiscal-cliff/white-house-weighs-new-grand-bargain-on-taxes-spending/2013/01/04/da3db9b8-55f0-11e2-bf3e-76c0a789346f_singlePage.html

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White House open to future ‘grand bargain’ on taxes, spending (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2013 OP
This is getting to be like Groundhog Day... n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #1
Without the laughs... MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #2
An entire article without a single substantive quote demwing Jan 2013 #3
We don't need a grand bamboozle shocked in a the last minute again. Pass each measure seperately. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #4
Ah, the next session of rope a dope is getting warmed up. cliffordu Jan 2013 #5
The Circle Game, it goes round and round..... Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #6
It isn't the debt ceiling, but the sequester Cosmocat Jan 2013 #7
Here come the SS/Medicare cuts right on schedule. forestpath Jan 2013 #8
Thought those were supposed to happen in the fiscal cliff deal .... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #9
 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
4. We don't need a grand bamboozle shocked in a the last minute again. Pass each measure seperately.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jan 2013

Cut Defense.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
7. It isn't the debt ceiling, but the sequester
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:35 AM
Jan 2013

or the government spending bill that will drive this.

I hold out a mild bit of belief that the President and democrats will indeed refuse to negotiate over the debt ceiling, as they should.

But, make no mistake, SS and Medicade will ONCE AGAIN put put up during the sequester debate.

Chris Hayes made a VERY good observation yesterday.

What these clowns debate PUBICALLY is the stuff that should not even be debated. What they do behind the scenes with no debate, is the bad stuff - witness that we had the payroll tax holiday expire, and all the porkish crap tax cuts for Hollywood/Nascar/Big Banks ect that got NO public discussion and easy "bi-partisan" agreement.

But, everyone is now on to the drama about the debt ceiling.

But, the dirty will be done over the sequester.

Now, will the jackasses in the House be willing to accept anything less than the total elimination of SS and Medicade along with the 98% of the country directly paying taxes to the job creating 2%?

THAT is the question.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. Thought those were supposed to happen in the fiscal cliff deal ....
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 11:00 AM
Jan 2013

And in the debt ceiling fight last summer.

And in Obama's 2011 Budget.

And in Obama's 2010 Budget.

And in Obama's SOTU speech in 2010.

And a few other times throughout his first term.

And so now your prediction is THIS TIME its going to happen for sure.

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