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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:14 PM

 

French weekly prints Prophet Muhammad drawing

Source: Al Jazeera

A French satirical magazine, whose offices were fire-bombed after it published cartoons on the Prophet Muhammad last September, has published a 64-page special issue with cartoons on the life of Islam's founder.

The editor of Charlie Hebdo weekly insisted that the publication titled "The Life of Muhammad", which was published on Wednesday, was a properly researched and educational work prepared by a Franco-Tunisian sociologist.

Prior to publication, Stephane Charbonnier, who was also the illustrator of the book, said "I don't think higher Muslim minds could find anything inappropriate".

He told the AFP news agency last week that "It is a biography authorised by Islam since it was edited by Muslims."

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Reply French weekly prints Prophet Muhammad drawing (Original post)
UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 OP
leftynyc Jan 2013 #1
Mass Jan 2013 #2
leftynyc Jan 2013 #3
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #5
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #4
Bradical79 Jan 2013 #6
Mz Pip Jan 2013 #7
zellie Jan 2013 #11
leftynyc Jan 2013 #16
ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2013 #8
LanternWaste Jan 2013 #23
Stuckinthebush Jan 2013 #9
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #10
FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #12
leftynyc Jan 2013 #17
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #19
leftynyc Jan 2013 #21
msanthrope Jan 2013 #32
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #34
Seeking Serenity Jan 2013 #20
Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #14
Stuckinthebush Jan 2013 #15
leftynyc Jan 2013 #18
msanthrope Jan 2013 #27
cali Jan 2013 #22
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #24
msanthrope Jan 2013 #25
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #29
msanthrope Jan 2013 #33
CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #28
Seeking Serenity Jan 2013 #30
cali Jan 2013 #35
msanthrope Jan 2013 #31
DavidWD72 Jan 2013 #13
msanthrope Jan 2013 #26
and-justice-for-all Jan 2013 #36

Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:17 PM

1. They have weird speech laws in France

Is this legal? Can it be considered hate speech?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:21 PM

2. Yes, it is totally legal.

Charlie Hebdo has been doing that for years (at least since 1968). They are playing with fire, but this is what they do.

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Response to Mass (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:37 PM

3. Then my prayers are with them

although a few armed guards would be better.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:03 PM

5. Its covered by both civil and criminal law in France

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:01 PM

4. It's inappropriate

because Muslims consider that to be disrespectful. 'Nuff said.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:26 PM

6. Which Muslims find it disrespectful? All of them?

And what other images are inappropriate? Buddy Jesus? Che t-shirts? A Republican Elephant waving a white flag?

I mean, there are an extremely large number of images out there that are considered disrespectful by various groups of people. Why do Muslims get special consideration? What's your standard?

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:34 PM

7. I agree

Why must everyone walk around on eggshells in fear of offending a religious group?

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:28 PM

11. Actually....yes

 

Apparently we do.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:35 AM

16. Agree

I remember hearing once that it's one thing to respect a religion and quite another to respect their taboos. These Muslims need to get over the fact not everybody is in agreement on what is and what is not appropriate without killing people. If they're living in the west, they need to adapt and get their shit together.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:54 PM

8. There are lots of things I find inappropriate.

I choose not to look at them.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:53 AM

23. More often than not, I don't know if a thing is or is not inappropriate

More often than not, I don't know if a thing is or is not inappropriate until after I've looked at it, as my powers of prognostication and prophecy are not quite as well-tempered as are so many others.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:15 PM

9. Southern evangelical christians say it is inappropriate to take prayer out of school

Should we put it back in as a mandatory morning exercise so we won't offend them?

They also say it is inappropriate to abbreviate Christmas as Xmas. Should we stop that?

Oh, they also think it is inappropriate for anyone to say Jesus H. Christ! in frustration. Should we stop that?

I find any religion that uses the threat of violence to stop people from offending them to be twisted.

If more papers would print doodles of the prophet then perhaps it wouldn't be such a big deal after awhile.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:23 PM

10. Southern evangelical christians

are unlikely to occupy, as is projected, over 25% of the world population by 2030.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:31 PM

12. But the Duggars are sure trying!

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:39 AM

17. Are you truly suggesting

that because there a a lot of Muslims that we should just suck up the fact the little babies can't handle free speech? If that is the expectation, you can expect more and more anti-Muslim press and a crackdown on immigration from any country that demands everyone else respect their crap. Should women cover themselves in shrouds because it's expected the men simply cannot control themselves? Why the fuck should we allow people who think like that here?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:12 AM

19. I'm merely explaining why I'm right.

Last edited Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:56 AM - Edit history (1)

The argument you've used could be used equally to defend anti-semitic remarks, homophobic remarks and just about every racial epiphet / slur in existence.

btw - this is who they are : Charlie Hebdo more anti-Islamic than anti-clerical http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/19/analysis-charlie-hebdo-cartoons

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:41 AM

21. Right about what?

That there are a lot of Muslims who expect everyone to bow and scrape to their deity? Did Mel Gibson get beaten up or killed for his anti-semetism? How many groups that you know of threaten beheadings for blasphemy? This isn't respect for religion - it's expecting the world to live at your feet and I'll be the first one in line to make sure that doesn't happen.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:55 AM

32. What are you right about? That offensive to you speech is properly met with violence??? nt

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:42 AM

34. So we should ban heresy against Islam because there are a

lot of them?

Quite honestly, that sounds more like an argument for tighter immigration policies in France.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:27 AM

20. What does THAT have to do with anything? (n/t)

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:30 PM

14. If Southern Evangelicals planted bombs and issued fatwas on those who use "xmas",

many people would be much more respectful and compliant of their wishes.

Sadly, violence and threats of violence often gets results.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:35 PM

15. Agreed

That's why I think that the more newspapers in Europe and the US refuse to back down from isane demands of not picturing the prophet then the better we all will be.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:44 AM

18. You can't force respect

And I couldn't disagree more with your premise. We simply cannot allow religion to dictate our policies. Your attitude is making me wonder if those with the guns here for protection have the right idea cuz no way will I submit to whatever moronic taboos religious freaks have.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:36 AM

27. I think the American Taliban often has 'fatwa envy'--

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:43 AM

22. not nearly "'nuff said"

that is a dangerous standard. should people not print or say anything "disrespectful" of Christianity or Judaism or government or... and on and on.

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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:19 AM

24. So are you saying for example

that anti-semitic remarks and use of the n word are ok ?

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:33 AM

25. Define what you mean by 'ok?'

'Ok' as in no criminal penalty?

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:42 AM

29. You should appreciate

that being UK I'm used to more stringent laws than you are. The subject of the OP would be covered by hate speech laws here.

I don't personally agree with the use of anything like this directed toward any group with the obvious intention of pissing them off big time.

I meant ok as in agreement with.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 10:16 AM

33. You should appreciate that you are on a board of Americans, dedicated to electing American officials

under an American Constitution. We aren't the Colonies anymore.

I find your argument regarding speech being 'ok' facile.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:38 AM

28. Should Huckleberry Finn be banned or burned?

Should all copies of Pink Floyd's The Wall be burned?Should Salman Rushdie be burned?

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:47 AM

30. So are you saying

that it's all right if people who utter the n-word or anti-Semitic remarks be subjected to acts of violence or threats of violence?

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:48 AM

35. so are you saying that a cartoon mocking your PM

shouldn't be published? After all, I'm sure some people would be offended.

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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:53 AM

31. I refer you to this classic thread, and the opinions on cultural sensitivity contained within.....

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1819200

Silly is silly, and I don't have to respect the cultural sensitivities of those who have chosen religion over reason.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:09 PM

13. Where?

Where can I find this spread of pictures? I have a firm belief that any and all ridiculous garbage should be ridiculed.

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Response to DavidWD72 (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:35 AM

26. PZ Myers will probably have a link...

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:30 PM

36. All dogma should be critized and will be critized...nt

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