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malz

(89 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:22 PM Dec 2012

US Soldier Suicides Outnumber Combat Deaths In 2012

Source: CBS News

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – American soldier suicides continue to outnumber combat-related deaths in 2012, and the trajectory for soldier suicides continues to get worse.

Statistics released by the Department of the Army show that through November potentially 303 active-duty, Reserve and National Guard soldiers committed suicide. As of Dec. 7, Stars and Stripes reports that 212 soldiers have died in combat-related deaths in Afghanistan.

The Army set a grim new record of 177 potential active-duty cases with 2012 coming to a close on Tuesday – 64 of these cases remain under investigation, 113 have been confirmed.

In June of this year, The Pentagon reported there had been at least 154 suicides among active-duty troops – a rate of nearly one each day. The number of suicides continues to increase despite numerous new training and awareness programs put into effect in the past few years.

Read more: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/28/us-soldier-suicides-outnumber-combat-deaths-in-2012/



No foul language? Then I can't comment on this!
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US Soldier Suicides Outnumber Combat Deaths In 2012 (Original Post) malz Dec 2012 OP
They're being abused The Wizard Dec 2012 #1
Aren't we all? malz Dec 2012 #3
The stressors The Wizard Dec 2012 #9
What's even worse is... Indi Guy Dec 2012 #14
Lets talk about ALL suicides. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #2
my eyes are very bad Skittles Dec 2012 #5
japan has the highest madrchsod Dec 2012 #7
"varily constant" Skittles Dec 2012 #16
Think I'm calling in with an eye problem too. lonestarnot Dec 2012 #8
Looks like Japan is at the tops and Netherlands is at the bottom. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #11
Unconscionable! n/t Indi Guy Dec 2012 #4
They are keeping these people engaged way too long shintao Dec 2012 #6
I see two main reasons. a11ig8r Dec 2012 #10
+1 L0oniX Dec 2012 #12
I'd say that many among those who volunteer do have some idea of what it would be like, if Cal33 Dec 2012 #15
This only one of many reasons why I won't join the military sign up rah rah crowd. L0oniX Dec 2012 #13
These figures are very strange. Some aspects don't add up. MADem Dec 2012 #17
 

malz

(89 posts)
3. Aren't we all?
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:57 PM
Dec 2012

But it's especially sickening when the chickenhawks are SO gung-ho for war, yet Gawwwd Forbid any tax money should go to help the people who have to ENACT their twisted visions!

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
9. The stressors
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:43 AM
Dec 2012

on those in uniform and under fire, especially for no reason, are far greater than normal human experience.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
14. What's even worse is...
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:27 PM
Dec 2012

...the fact that the it's the MIC which funds the chicken-hawks. This is a source of corruption that goes to the highest echelons of our government.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
5. my eyes are very bad
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:05 AM
Dec 2012

can you tell me which country is the high line and which is the low line? I cannot tell the difference in colors.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
7. japan has the highest
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:53 AM
Dec 2012

netherlands has the lowest. looks like the usa has been varily constant over the years

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
8. Think I'm calling in with an eye problem too.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:23 AM
Dec 2012

My eyes can't see my ass coming to work on Monday if I don't get over this shit.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
11. Looks like Japan is at the tops and Netherlands is at the bottom.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 11:14 AM
Dec 2012

We are kinda in the lower middle.

 

shintao

(487 posts)
6. They are keeping these people engaged way too long
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 05:10 AM
Dec 2012

A year of combat is a lot of mental problems. These guys are spending years.

 

a11ig8r

(40 posts)
10. I see two main reasons.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:46 AM
Dec 2012

Either they can't live with the atrocities they(the military) committed or they thought joining the military would be a money spigot that would solve their financial woes and solve the problems they had before joining.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
15. I'd say that many among those who volunteer do have some idea of what it would be like, if
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:47 PM
Dec 2012

they should be sent to a combat area. Their hope is that they would be sent to some
non-combat area. And the number one reason they joined in the first place is they
couldn't find any job. Any one who joins the military as an enlisted person and expects
to make a lot of money must be quite uninformed indeed! Even officers don't make much.
And few officers ever reach the rank of general or admiral.

These are hard times.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
13. This only one of many reasons why I won't join the military sign up rah rah crowd.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:39 PM
Dec 2012

Seen and know too many people who now hate the US government because it shits on them when they come home. Only one of many examples: My cousin became a cop to get back on society for sending him to Vietnam. Seen too many vets in food lines (25% of the line) and talked to many of them. When I express my anti support the troops it's because I don't support joining the military and do not approve of those that do. I don't want them committing suicide because of the wrong choice they made or the children and innocent who die or suffer because they are following orders. I'm not the one giving them orders. If no one joined the military they would be forced to have a draft and that would get a lot more people involved in anti war movements. Other countries get by just fine without a world dominating military at the expense of the tax payers. The real hero is the person who goes out and helps people, not participate in the death machine.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. These figures are very strange. Some aspects don't add up.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:09 PM
Dec 2012

I've never seen a count so high--what doesn't make sense, though, is that more than half of the people who are killing themselves never deployed to a war zone, and eighty five percent of them are not combat veterans. Is it a recruiting issue? A training issue? An "anticipation/uncertainty" issue?

There's something else besides "combat stress" acting on these servicemembers.

A bipartisan group of lawmakers from both the House and the Senate are pushing for new rules that would allow military commanders and mental health specialists to ask unstable troops if they own personal firearms, reports Stars and Stripes.

About 53 percent of those who died by suicide in the military in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, had no history of deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan, according to the Defense Department. And nearly 85 percent of military members who took their lives had no direct combat history, meaning they may have been deployed but not seen action.


I'm astounded at the push for the "Do you own a weapon" line of questioning. I think it's a great idea, but I never realized such a question was prohibited.
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