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[Purveyor]

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[Purveyor]

1. Hill Dems Haven't Been Told of Latest Obama Fiscal Cliff Plan

President Obama is sending a scaled back fiscal cliff measure to Capitol Hill today, CNN's Dana Bash is reporting citing two unidentified sources.

But that was news to some congressional Democrats. A senior Senate Democratic aide told the Alley that White House hasn't notified Democrats of the plan.

And that has left some Democrats scrambling to verify whether the news was indeed true.
Stay tuned.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/blogs/influencealley/2012/12/hill-dems-haven-t-been-told-of-latest-obama-fiscal-cliff-plan-27

[DCKit]

11. Outrageous. Why aren't the first lady and daughters manning the phones?

The Republics must be infromed!

[Purveyor]

2. More: Package from president would avoid hardest impacts of fiscal cliff

A Republican senator said Obama told Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, that the president's plan would arrive on Thursday, and a Senate Democratic leadership member also said that was the approach being taken. Both sources spoke on condition of not being identified further.

The move would answer McConnell's call for the president or Senate Democrats to make the first move in the political standoff over how to prevent or soften automatic tax hikes and spending cuts of the fiscal cliff set to take effect in the new year -- just five days away.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/election-2012/Obama-offers-scaled-back-fiscal-cliff-plan/-/2574696/17911942/-/ouxcy2z/-/index.html

[factsarenotfair]

3. "extend the current estate tax rate"

Great.

[montanacowboy]

4. Well he couldn't wait to cut his vacation short

to give them another gift

Just STFU and forget it - let it go off the goddam hill, cliff, mountain whatever

Is he so determined to get any deal that he keeps giving away gifts to the crazies

[geek tragedy]

5. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-source-were-expecting-democrats-to-finally-act

Update: TPM has learned that reports that the White House is about to send an offer to Capitol Hill are not accurate, or at best an exaggerated read-out of GOP discussions with President Obama.

Update II: An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) also tells TPM the reports are "not true."

[factsarenotfair]

12. Then why are we being tortured with these reports? n/t

.

[OldDem2012]

13. Maybe because so many people snap at the bait without doing any of their own fact-checking. nt.

[factsarenotfair]

18. Well, SOMEONE is putting the bait out. n/t

.

[Itchinjim]

19. Only he didn't.

142...

[brooklynite]

6. NBC saying NO proposal sent from WH...

Mike O'Brien ?@mpoindc
Well then: Senate Dems assert to @KellyO that reports of a new WH proposal on the fiscal cliff are incorrect. "We are nowhere."

[Purveyor]

8. Andrea is about to come up on MSNBC. We'll see if she has something on this. eom

[april]

7. F.......................................................get a back bone

[sofa king]

20. ^ And that is why they pitch this bullshit.

So that people like april are deceived into believing that the President is somehow caving in, when in fact he hasn't caved in on the tax cut issue once, not ever.

There is a big, big difference between making John Boehner look bad by offering a compromise you know he can't take, and actually caving in.

You are being deceived, april. Don't buy their bullshit.

[WilliamPitt]

9. HE'S KILLING SOCIAL SECURITY WHAARGARB...oh, wait...

[OldDem2012]

14. Ha! You're killing me! nt.

[janx]

15. CAT FOOD! THIRD WAY!!

AUSTERITY!!1!

[WilliamPitt]

16. EHRMEGEHRD EURSTURRETURR

[Purveyor]

10. MSNBC reporting that the White House says there is NO deal. I'll let this thread hang for just

a while longer then yank it if this doesn't pan out.

[wordpix]

17. "McConnell ... cannot say whether he would require a simple majority or 60 votes for passage"

Wait a minute - why does McConnell get to decide this? I thought Dems were in the majority, even with the lame ducks in the Senate. And we have a Dem VP.