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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:20 PM

Israel Rejects US Gun Lobby Claims on Its Security

Source: Associated Press

Israel Rejects US Gun Lobby Claims on Its Security
By By AMY TEIBEL Associated Press
JERUSALEM December 24, 2012 (AP)

Israel's policy on issuing guns is restrictive, and armed guards at its schools are meant to stop terrorists, not crazed or disgruntled gunmen, experts said Monday, rejecting claims by America's top gun lobby that Israel serves as proof for its philosophy that the U.S. needs more weapons, not fewer.

Far from the image of a heavily armed population where ordinary people have their own arsenals to repel attackers, Israel allows its people to acquire firearms only if they can prove their professions or places of residence put them in danger. The country relies on its security services, not armed citizens, to prevent terror attacks.

Though military service in Israel is compulsory, routine familiarity with weapons does not carry over into civilian life. Israel has far fewer private weapons per capita than the U.S., and while there have been gangster shootouts on the streets from time to time, gun rampages outside the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are unheard of.

The National Rifle Association responded to the Dec. 14 killing of 20 first-graders and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school by resisting calls for tighter gun control and calling for armed guards and police at schools. On Sunday, the lobby's chief executive, Wayne LaPierre, invoked his perception of the Israeli school security system to back his proposal.




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Reply Israel Rejects US Gun Lobby Claims on Its Security (Original post)
Judi Lynn Dec 2012 OP
samsingh Dec 2012 #1
riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #2
bluestateguy Dec 2012 #3
bvar22 Dec 2012 #10
riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #4
Recursion Dec 2012 #5
riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #6
RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #7
former9thward Dec 2012 #14
Selatius Dec 2012 #15
Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2012 #8
Blackhawk44 Dec 2012 #9
Luke5420 Dec 2012 #11
libdem4life Dec 2012 #12
kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #13
humblebum Dec 2012 #16

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:25 PM

1. i've always been a huge supporter of Isael

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:25 PM

2. THis should be brought up now and constantly...while NRA nuts are being interviewed on MSM

K&R

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:27 PM

3. Israel is a progressive nation is many more ways than the US

and it's time American liberals started acknowledging that.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:27 PM

10. Well, their Cradle to Grave Universal Health Care program is certainly more progressive than ours.

I would take THAT without hesitation.
Maybe THEY should be sending aid to us?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:29 PM

4. Must read article

They are even stricter than Canada.



In Israel, applicants must undergo police screening and medical exams, in part to determine their mental state, Amit said.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:34 PM

5. Good luck buying a gun if you're an Israeli Arab

So there's that.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:35 PM

6. This is the rules for EVERY Israeli

I happen to have close friends who are and they are not Arabs.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:41 PM

7. The truth is irrelevant on Bullshit Mt.

RW radio spread the meme that every Israeli is armed and they walk the streets with their weapons.
Add to that the pic of 1 "teacher" with a rifle and all is well on Bullshit Mountain.

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:34 PM

14. That is not RW.

I have been to Jerusalem twice for extended stays. I saw many high school students walking to school with rifles on their back. I saw teenagers in bars with machine guns slung around their shoulders. And yes I did see quite a few civilians walking down streets with guns.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:03 AM

15. Jerusalem is a heavily contested city. No surprise the Israeli gov't allows people to carry.

If we were talking about a city further away from the front lines, such as Netanya or Haifa or Ashdod, the restrictions on weapons probably would be more.

You're not as likely going to run into a gun-toting Palestinian bent on killing a lot of people in Netanya or Ashdod compared to a city like Jerusalem.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:10 PM

8. In other words, LaPierre lied

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:18 PM

12. I hope this gets posted every day at least until the New Year.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:06 PM

13. kick nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:37 AM

16. "meant to stop terrorists, not crazed or disgruntled gunmen" ...?

 

Well, of course we know terrorists would never strike in the US. Especially where there are a bunch of unarmed innocents. (RELUCTANT SARCASM)

And of course no terrorist can be considered crazed or disgruntled.

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