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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:51 PM

 

New York Cardinal Compares Slain Teacher Anne Marie Murphy To Jesus

Source: Hartford Courant

Comparing a slain teacher to Jesus, Cardinal Timothy Dolan told mourners Thursday that Anne Marie Murphy's death in the Connecticut elementary school shootings helped unify a nation moved by what she had done.

In a suburban New York church crowded to overflowing, the cardinal said Murphy "has brought together a community, a nation, a world, now awed by her own life and death" as her relatives expressed sympathy for the dozens of other families in mourning after the massacre in Newtown, Conn, on Dec. 14.

Murphy, 52, was among 26 teachers and students killed when 20-year-old gunman Adam Lanza opened fire on Sandy Hook Elementary School classrooms in one of the nation's deadliest mass shootings. Lanza, who had shot his mother dead at their home, ultimately killed himself at the school.

Authorities told Murphy's father she died trying to protect her young pupils, according to the father, Hugh McGowan. Her body was found covering a group of children's bodies as if to shield them, McGowan said.

"Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life for her friends," he said. "Like Jesus, Annie's life and death brings light, truth, goodness and love to a world often shrouded in darkness, evil, selfishness and death."

Read more: http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-ny-cardinal-sandy-hook-newtown-shooting-1221-20121220,0,2965709.story

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Reply New York Cardinal Compares Slain Teacher Anne Marie Murphy To Jesus (Original post)
michigandem58 Dec 2012 OP
dlwickham Dec 2012 #1
msongs Dec 2012 #2
happyslug Dec 2012 #3
dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #13
DesertRat Dec 2012 #18
tk2kewl Dec 2012 #4
heaven05 Dec 2012 #5
Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #8
obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #10
pegasis Dec 2012 #6
HockeyMom Dec 2012 #7
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #9
obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #12
Burma Jones Dec 2012 #21
obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #11
jsr Dec 2012 #14
Danmel Dec 2012 #15
Justice Dec 2012 #20
TexasProgresive Dec 2012 #16
Iris Dec 2012 #17
fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #19
meow2u3 Dec 2012 #22

Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:06 PM

1. what an ignorant comparison

but it's Cardinal Dolan so it makes sense

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:12 PM

2. the teacher is the new messiah? the pope isnt going to like competition nt

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:24 PM

3. The Actual Homily

Michael, Kelly Anne, Colleen, Thomas, and Paige;

Hugh and Alice;

Hugh and Valerie;

Mary Pat and Jim;

Tom and Clare;

Peter and Toni;

Alice and Eddie;

Catherine and Thom;

dear family and close friends of Annie:

we love you very much!

With you we cry, and do not really know what to say . . .

With you, and for you, we pray hard:

thanking God for Annie’s life;

asking His mercy in bringing her to her true and eternal home of heaven, as Jesus just promised us in the gospel;

and seeking God’s strength for you, the strength mentioned by St. Paul this morning, as you continue to persevere through this tragic loss.

These sentiments of love, prayer, sympathy, and solidarity, come from all of us – - Father Connors, Father Paul, Father Dominic and the parishioners of St. Mary’s Parish, Annie’s spiritual home; from my brother priests; from so many friends and neighbors, indeed, from all over our country and our world – - as we come to Annie’s funeral.

In the wisdom of Holy Mother Church, a funeral Mass is not so much about the life and death of the person we come to bury, but primarily about the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus . . .

Jesus, the divine Teacher, the greatest teacher ever;

Jesus, our divine friend, who had a favored place in His Sacred Heart for children and for people with special needs;

Jesus, who told us that, “Greater love than this no one has, than to lay down his life for his friends;”

Jesus, who brought all creation together by His own death on the cross, as He died so we could live forever;

Jesus, who, by rising from the dead, dramatically showed us that the violence, darkness, evil, and death of that Friday does not have the last word, because, when God His Father gives life, that life is forever, and cannot be destroyed.

Annie would indeed want us to make all of this about Jesus, because she was a woman of faith.

I never had the honor of meeting Annie, so I’m at a disadvantage.

Then, again, I never had the honor of physically meeting Jesus, yet my union with Him is the most important thing in my life.

And, because I know Jesus, I feel as if I know Ann Marie McGowan Murphy quite well!

Like Jesus, Annie was an excellent teacher;

Like Him, she had a favored place in her big, tender heart for children, especially those with struggles;

Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life for her friends;

Like Him, she has brought together a community, a nation, a world, now awed by her own life and death;

Like Jesus, Annie’s life and death brings light, truth, goodness, and love, to a world often shrouded in darkness, evil, selfishness, and death.

So, while this is first about Jesus, it’s also about Annie, because, simply put, she lived and died in, with, and through Him. She reminds us of Jesus.

You realize today, December 21, is the darkest day of the year, with the sun – - S – U – N – - at its lowest point;

You realize, too, that tomorrow the sun – - S – U – N – - begins its ascent again, as the days gradually get brighter;

You realize that we will soon celebrate the birth of the son – - S – O – N – - who came long ago at Bethlehem with the Christmas gift of eternal life for those who believe.

You realize that, as we trust in God’s mercy, Annie now has opened this supreme Christmas present.

http://blog.archny.org/

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Response to happyslug (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:58 PM

13. Thanks for posting that.

Helps put it in perspective.

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Response to happyslug (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:37 PM

18. Thanks for posting the homily

I'm sure it brought some comfort to the family and friends. RIP, Annie.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:45 PM

4. and the others are what? wood?

nt

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:17 PM

5. great

homily. Great point in homily. Spiritually speaking.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:58 PM

8. Not normally a fan of Cardinal Dolan, but this was nice (nt)

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:48 PM

10. I agree

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:36 PM

6. Some are missing the point.

This was a day to grieve for Anne's life lost and console her family as best as one could. The comparison is true for a great number of people but the mass was to commemorate the end of this one teacher's life on earth. We all get to step up and live those examples - whether we're "believers" or not.

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Response to pegasis (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:53 PM

7. Excuse me?

A Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, or Atheist, would not have done the same? ONLY Christians would? Sorry, I don't believe that and I say that as someone who held my special needs child close to me during a school Lock down.

It has nothing to do with RELIGION. It is the RIGHT THING TO DO as a human adult concerning a CHILD.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:29 PM

9. No one anywhere said a Jew, Buddhist, Hindi or Athiest wouldn't have done the same. And Christ

is the embodiment of the Soul of Humanity.

And that is exactly what someone who sacrifices themselves becomes a channel for.

In all groups of spiritual people there's the concept of the greater Self and those who channel that.

In Buddhism, the Bodhisattva.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:55 PM

12. The story of Jesus is the story of a Bodhisattva, to an extent

I am an Atheist and a Buddhist, and find the homily just lovely. Even an SOB like the Cardinal can get one right on occasion.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:42 AM

21. Um, the person being memorialized was a Christian

See, when you are the preacher at a funeral giving the message, you tailor what you say to the dead person and the dead person was a Christian, the people mourning this person were also most likely Christians. Do you understand? I tried to use the simplest words I could. The funeral was not for your benefit, do you understand?

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:52 PM

11. I'm an Atheist, and loathe the Cardinal

But I think what he said was lovely. I read his entire homily.

But all accounts, Anne Marie Murphy died trying to protect her children. She lived "suffer the little children." The story of Jesus is one of love.



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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:02 PM

14. No biggie if you read the whole thing.

He was just praising her for following Jesus' actions.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:06 PM

15. I am Jewish and I am not the least bit offended by this

He wasn't saying only Christians are noble. He merely said her actions were Christlike. "Like Jesus, Annie laid down her life for her friends," he said. "Like Jesus, Annie's life and death brings light, truth, goodness and love to a world often shrouded in darkness, evil, selfishness and death." I think it was a nice homily and one that probably brought her family some measure of comfort, which is what it is meant to do.

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Response to Danmel (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:37 AM

20. thank you - that was a very nice post

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:14 PM

16. That was a good homily

Some posting are doing a knee-jerk reaction.

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:31 PM

17. Sigh... yes

happens too often these days

It was a lovely homily.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:53 AM

19. Christ Chose to Die; Annie Didn't

Jesus was conceived by a virgin, born out of wedlock, hung around 12 single men, and never married. I suspect that means he has as much in common with me as Annie.

Most of Christianity recognizes that Christ chose to die for man's sins. Annie did no such thing.

She wants her life back.

Dolan ... Sell your theology some place else.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:54 AM

22. Anne Marie Murphy was indeed Christlike

She's a saint AFAIC. Cardinal Dolan needs to learn a bit of humility from her example and memory.

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