Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:14 PM
Google announces privacy settings change across products; users can’t opt outLast edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-tracks-consumers-across-products-users-cant-opt-out/2012/01/24/gIQArgJHOQ_story.html
Google said Tuesday it will require users to allow the company to follow their activities across e-mail, search, YouTube and other services, a radical shift in strategy that is expected to invite greater scrutiny of its privacy and competitive practices. The information will enable Google to develop a fuller picture of how people use its growing empire of Web sites. Consumers will have no choice but to accept the changes. The policy will take effect March 1 and will also impact Android mobile phone users, who are required to log in to Google accounts when they activate their phones. The changes comes as Google is facing stiff competition and recently disappointed investors for the first time in several quarters, failing last week to meet earnings expectations. Apple, perhaps its primary rival, is expected to announce strong earnings Tuesday. Google’s changes are appeared squarely aimed at Apple and Facebook, which have been successful in keeping people in their ecosystem of products. Google, which makes money by selling ads tailored to its users, is hoping to do the same by offering a Web experience tailored to personal tastes. “If you’re signed in, we may combine information you’ve provided from one service with information from other services,” Alma Whitten, Google’s director of privacy, product and engineering wrote in a blog post. snip ------------------------------------------------------------- All the easier for Google to toss you over to the copyright goons for watching YouTube videos. The bill is in the mail/email. Or when a private detective/cyber bounty-hunter or public copper subscribes in 2013 to the new 'GoogleSleuth' info database and you end up in civil court or criminal proceeding for thought crimes. 
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 Google announces privacy settings change across products; users can’t opt out (Original post) |
stockholmer | Jan 2012 | OP |
| dmallind | Jan 2012 | #1 | |
| stockholmer | Jan 2012 | #4 | |
| JackRiddler | Jan 2012 | #73 | |
| msongs | Jan 2012 | #2 | |
| IthinkThereforeIAM | Jan 2012 | #51 | |
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| dipsydoodle | Jan 2012 | #6 | |
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| stockholmer | Jan 2012 | #14 | |
| dipsydoodle | Jan 2012 | #17 | |
| stockholmer | Jan 2012 | #29 | |
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| stockholmer | Jan 2012 | #75 | |
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Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:24 PM
dmallind (10,437 posts)
1. Damn how can we POSSIBLY avoid such scrutiny....
Response to stockholmer (Reply #4)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:41 AM
73. Oi, yes. General surveillance society...
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:31 PM
msongs (30,532 posts)
2. google has become what it claimed to be against when founded nt
Response to msongs (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:33 AM
51. That is what happens when you let the MBA's stick their heads under the tent...
Response to IthinkThereforeIAM (Reply #51)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:58 AM
Broderick (4,578 posts)
81. And the logical conclusion I predict
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:40 PM
dipsydoodle (32,674 posts)
3. We'll - given that the EU are just about to fuck FB
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:16 PM
dipsydoodle (32,674 posts)
6. Was using the Galaxy Tab. and still have yet to figure how to cut and paste
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Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:17 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Back on the computer now.
Process started last year : EU wants Facebook, Google to comply with new data rules. (Reuters) - Social-networking sites such as Facebook, or search engines such as Google, may face court action if they fail to obey planned EU data privacy rules, European Union justice chief Viviane Reding said on Wednesday. Reding will propose an overhaul of the EU's 16-year-old laws on data protection in the coming months to enforce more safeguards on how personal information is used. Much of the revamp would target sites such as Facebook, Google, Microsoft or Yahoo, because of rising worries about how they use information they collect about users' personal habits. Reding wants to force companies to allow Internet users to withdraw any data held by the websites, calling it the "right to be forgotten," as well as make the firms provide more information on what data is collected and for what purpose. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/us-eu-data-privacy-idUSTRE72F69S20110316 There are some later progress links lurking around from the past week or so. Agreement to proceed should occur 29th January, next week, but will then need approval of individual states to beome law and that will take a while.  |
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:48 PM
14. I fail to see how we here in the EU upholding our privacy laws is 'fucking FB' or 'shafting Google'
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Am I misreading your comment?
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Response to stockholmer (Reply #14)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:54 PM
dipsydoodle (32,674 posts)
17. It will help block the way in which they share information
Response to stockholmer (Reply #29)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:45 AM
74. If I'm reading correctly, dipsydoodle is actually for the EU guidelines.
Response to stockholmer (Reply #75)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:00 AM
76. Well maybe dipsydoodle will clear this up...
Response to stockholmer (Reply #75)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:41 PM
91. Those were the words but, he thinks it's a good thing.
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:44 PM
34. Wow - I had missed that one.
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I don't use FB because I just don't trust it for a host of reasons, privacy just one smidge on the list.
Glad the EU is taking the lead on this. Thanks for that, Europe.
So what are your thoughts on the Galaxy? I want to get a tablet later this year but am not an apple person, so Galaxy is on the short list. Would you do it again? |
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #34)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:53 AM
dipsydoodle (32,674 posts)
55. Please allow for the fact
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you're talking to an idiot who sometimes just buy things because they seem a good idea at the time....lol.
I'd got a Galaxy S 'phone about 18 months ago so the Galaxy 10.1 seemed a reasonably natural choice. I got it when I had a problem with the broadband - the fixed line telephone line in the house went down for a fortnight and I'd had a second broadband run in for backup from the cable company - not being able to do work can lose me more than the cost of gizmos like tablets etc. Now I use the tablet on the sofa while watching DVDs to keep an eye on here and ebay etc. To me its a convenience device. I did download the full instructional manual onto one of the PCs but have yet to plough through it. Doubtless all will become clear in time. Meanwhile if I want to post anything which needs cutting and pasting I use one of the PC's. Must say I do find touch screens very aggravating - you wouldn't believe the number of adverts I open by accident. I'd suggest you search both the latest models of each manufacturer to see which is better - I can't draw that comparison. There may be some chatter on the subject elsewhere on DU and there are loads of internet links on that subject too. As a side issue it does take really good pictures using the camera and screen shots are simplicity itself - just press a button.
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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #34)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:06 AM
dixiegrrrrl (30,866 posts)
70. Let me pop in here to mention
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:44 PM
7. Google is being evil again. nt
Response to Lionessa (Reply #8)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:51 PM
16. And a big big thank you for providing asll that info.
Response to Lionessa (Reply #20)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:51 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,866 posts)
31. Does No Script block Long lasting Storage Objects..?
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #31)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:37 PM
90. I had never even heard of noScript till this topic came up
Response to truedelphi (Reply #16)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:49 AM
sarge43 (17,469 posts)
56. Second that thanks. n/t
Response to Lionessa (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:41 AM
msongs (30,532 posts)
46. hotmail is microsoft i believe nt
Response to Lionessa (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:16 AM
Tunkamerica (4,355 posts)
53. hotmail is microsoft i believe
Response to Lionessa (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:45 AM
AllyCat (7,520 posts)
66. Thanks for this. I'm just now trying Ghostery and will see what happens.
Response to IDemo (Reply #78)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:44 PM
AllyCat (7,520 posts)
83. And lo and behold, our webpages are loading faster. Imagine that.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:32 PM
FailureToCommunicate (4,399 posts)
9. Oh, but you CAN 'opt out'...
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easy:
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Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:40 PM
10. If You Use This Google, Facebook, etc. You Aren't the Customer
Response to Upward (Reply #10)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:43 PM
12. Weird, but true. CATTLE have more privacy than Google users. n/t
Response to Upward (Reply #10)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:59 AM
Broderick (4,578 posts)
82. What a great point
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:42 PM
11. This must be why a friend of mine wants a phone that's just a phone. n/t
Response to Beartracks (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:51 PM
dipsydoodle (32,674 posts)
15. These come highly recommended.
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Just need a large pocket.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #15)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:35 PM
25. I have one of those--two, actually, but one is a "Princess" model.
Response to Beartracks (Reply #11)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:32 PM
23. Tracfone! They don't even need to know your name! nt
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:55 PM
18. Google is bad news. They are wayyyyy to big. Support bing. I was hoping microsoft bought yahoo. The
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:56 PM
Dreamer Tatum (7,179 posts)
19. I highly recommend that 'Google' change its name to 'Apple' so no one will bat an eye
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:29 PM
21. I deleted my youtube account the other day.
Response to bathroommonkey76 (Reply #21)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:33 PM
24. Give them the non-emergency number of the local police department.
Response to MADem (Reply #24)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:40 PM
27. It's too late now! Great idea tho'. ;) nt
Response to bathroommonkey76 (Reply #27)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:22 PM
38. Maybe it's time for some of the people who know what they are doing to make a Google Sucks google
Response to MADem (Reply #24)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:48 AM
AllyCat (7,520 posts)
67. Thanks for that. I'm going to try that next time I am asked for my number
Response to AllyCat (Reply #67)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:01 AM
96. Give them a good zip code, too--the White House, the Pentagon, the address to send in your drawings
Response to MADem (Reply #96)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:22 AM
AllyCat (7,520 posts)
99. Love your attitude on this :)
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:30 PM
22. I think people will start telling Google to go Eff themselves! mt
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:43 PM
28. No OPT out? I wonder if that might violate some laws.
Response to boppers (Reply #94)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:00 AM
97. I'm just wondering if the change might violate privacy laws.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:50 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,020 posts)
30. Just nationalize it
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:56 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,866 posts)
32. Damn...gotta close my gmail now.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:03 PM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
33. After reading this, I feel like a shower is needed.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:02 PM
35. GMAIL is officially UNCOOL now
Response to flamingdem (Reply #35)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:06 PM
36. One you set up on your own domain?
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:04 PM
37. I've NEVER used Google or any of their products...I've never liked them.
Response to MADem (Reply #39)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:05 AM
AnotherDreamWeaver (1,541 posts)
43. ask.com
Response to boppers (Reply #49)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:20 AM
Jim Lane (3,831 posts)
54. Does your response mean that ask.com *does* track users the way Google does?
Response to Lionessa (Reply #60)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:14 AM
octothorpe (962 posts)
61. The owners of the site are the ones who use google analytics and put the
Response to Lionessa (Reply #69)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:50 PM
octothorpe (962 posts)
92. Ahh, I gotcha...
Response to Lionessa (Reply #93)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:22 PM
Tunkamerica (4,355 posts)
102. It has a check box that asks if you want to send usage statistics back to google.
Response to Lionessa (Reply #104)
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:01 AM
Tunkamerica (4,355 posts)
105. The question was whether the browser itself was and you can disable that. Also, you can just sign
Response to Jim Lane (Reply #54)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:24 AM
95. Every normal site and business and "non-profit" tracks.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:29 PM
lonestarnot (71,135 posts)
40. Boooooooooo bastards.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:55 AM
42. Why does anyone even bother with Google, Facebook, Wikipedia, Snopes, Youtube
Response to begin_within (Reply #42)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:53 PM
87. Because we all have different tastes...?
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Because we all have different tastes?
(Although I do realize that minimizing a thing by calling it 'tired', 'old' or 'pointless;' while not adding anything substantive to the dialog, is certainly a most self-validating way of feeling better about oneself... ) |
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Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:40 AM
45. So Google has joined the fascist cartel.
Response to Faryn Balyncd (Reply #45)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:08 AM
Amonester (10,185 posts)
50. Money (Big, that is) corrupts absolutely.
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:26 AM
Celebration (15,401 posts)
57. different search engine
Response to Celebration (Reply #57)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:28 AM
snappyturtle (11,806 posts)
65. Thank you....looks good to me! Google knows
Response to skypilot (Reply #68)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:20 AM
Celebration (15,401 posts)
71. oh, you will get the same results as Google
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:32 AM
madokie (36,630 posts)
62. I simply block google in firefox' preferences and don't use their services any longer
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:45 AM
63. Wait, does this mean I can't opt out of web history anymore?
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:47 AM
dipsydoodle (32,674 posts)
64. Breach of new EU online data rules to carry high fines
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:11 AM
79. Use Startpage (formerly "Ixquick") for anonymous search n/t
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:53 AM
drm604 (13,962 posts)
80. Use Firefox with these plugins
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:24 PM
89. Google, remove the g and it becomes oogle.
Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #89)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
Tunkamerica (4,355 posts)
103. remove the g and it's oole, remove the l and it's ooe remove the e and it's oo
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Response to Paul E Ester (Reply #98)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:26 AM
100. You can make those widgets go away--I did. nt
Response to stockholmer (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:46 PM
101. What's a better alternative to web searching and web-based email? Yahoo? Bing/Microsoft?
