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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:29 PM

Children Dead In CT Elementary School Shooting

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Source: Crooksandliars.com

Multiple people have been killed in a shooting at an elementary school. Children are among the dead, the Hartford Courant reports. Sources told the newspaper that many of the shootings took place in a kindergarten classroom. An official with knowledge of the situation says a gunman is dead.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still under way, says the man apparently had two guns.

The shooting was reported at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, in western Connecticut. State police say Newtown police called them at about 9:40 a.m. about the reports.

Newtown is in northern Fairfield County, about 45 miles southwest of Hartford and 80 miles northeast of New York City.Eight-year-old Alexis Wasik, a third-grader at the school, said police were checking everybody inside the school before they were escorted to the firehouse. "We had to walk with a partner," she said.

Read more: http://crooksandliars.com/breaking-news/children-dead-ct-elementary-school-s



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Reply Children Dead In CT Elementary School Shooting (Original post)
meegbear Dec 2012 OP
villager Dec 2012 #1
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #3
godai Dec 2012 #5
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #9
Chorophyll Dec 2012 #38
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #79
Hoyt Dec 2012 #7
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #16
Hoyt Dec 2012 #94
villager Dec 2012 #11
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #18
villager Dec 2012 #25
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #58
patrice Dec 2012 #13
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #26
patrice Dec 2012 #93
L0oniX Dec 2012 #27
1gobluedem Dec 2012 #30
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #50
devilgrrl Dec 2012 #40
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #63
trouble.smith Dec 2012 #14
villager Dec 2012 #20
trouble.smith Dec 2012 #31
villager Dec 2012 #35
wellst0nev0ter Dec 2012 #46
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #66
trouble.smith Dec 2012 #65
redwitch Dec 2012 #89
trouble.smith Dec 2012 #90
tsuki Dec 2012 #69
callous taoboy Dec 2012 #72
trouble.smith Dec 2012 #78
callous taoboy Dec 2012 #81
trouble.smith Dec 2012 #85
L0oniX Dec 2012 #33
lalalu Dec 2012 #22
reteachinwi Dec 2012 #41
lalalu Dec 2012 #49
CTyankee Dec 2012 #53
I Make Sure Dec 2012 #71
KamaAina Dec 2012 #76
Purveyor Dec 2012 #2
UncleYoder Dec 2012 #4
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #6
godai Dec 2012 #12
Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #34
godai Dec 2012 #42
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heaven05 Dec 2012 #8
RDANGELO Dec 2012 #23
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mainer Dec 2012 #21
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RebelOne Dec 2012 #39
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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:32 PM

1. the enablers of gun violence on this site must be quite proud of themselves today

N/t

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:34 PM

3. Typical smear by you. So typical and enabled.nt

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:36 PM

5. Go away.

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Response to godai (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:38 PM

9. No, I will not. I do not tolerate lies & smears. Neither should you.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:54 PM

38. Shootings in a kindergarten classroom

And all you care about are "smears" against you and your fellow gun worshippers. NICE. Very nice.

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:25 PM

79. See#50. Read carefully. Your priorities? nt

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:36 PM

7. Hey -- Truth hurts. When you are into promoting guns, you have to take some blame.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:42 PM

16. Hoyt, this is a smear, and you enable it...

You are more concerned about scoring points off lies, aren't you?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:43 PM

94. It is not a smear when folks on DU have user names reflective of their love of guns above all else.


That ole gun website meme about Eleanor Roosevelt and her 38 pistol is just bull. And please don't come back with MLK applied for a permit or similar junk either.

The gun culture ought to get together and figure how to get us out of this mess. But that's like hoping corporations quit being greedy, quit polluting, quit taking advantage of any loophole that makes them a buck, etc.

When you shoot this weekend or tuck your gun away when walking in public, think about this.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:39 PM

11. typical denial by you - but what else should we expect?

A squandering of the emotion you feel for gunbs wasted on mere empathy for the victims?

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Response to villager (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:43 PM

18. Haven't heard much "empathy" from you. Distracted?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:46 PM

25. wow - youre sicker than i could have imagined

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Response to villager (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:06 PM

58. You have expressed hatred for me, not compassion for

children or ANYONE. Do you think they are equivalent?

WHERE is Your compassion?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:41 PM

13. You have something against free speech? Just this issue? Or are there other things we aren't allowed

to say?

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Response to patrice (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 PM

26. Pointing out lies and smears is a right, too. Y'know?

Maybe you find it difficult to know it when you see it; hatred has a way of clouding your reason.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:40 PM

93. Not EVERYTHING that one disagrees with is a lie or a smear. Some? yes, but not ALL & the

difference between what is, in fact, a lie/smear, and what is, in fact, a essential point/aspect/factor in whatever it is that one values ought to be significant to the valuer, right?, because, how can one authentically value something that you're either dishonest or ignorant about? Isn't dishonesty or ignorance oppression?

When we value something, that implies somekind of relationship to it doesn't it? Why would we falsely limit the definition of that relationship, unless one is threatened by the truth about something? And, being fear based, threats are a form of slavery, oppression, so how can one actually value for real what one is a slave to? Doesn't admitting the truth about something, free one to completely commit to it?

One of my points here has to do with the fact that, to me, the way that we are going about this, just doesn't work, for either side of the gun-ownership question.

Because gun-owners are denying certain truths about gun-ownership, their guns are not resulting in their putative motive for owning them in the first place, i.e. safety & protection. If you do NOTHING but defend un-controlled gun ownership, it is MORE likely that when the necessity of using that gun presents itself, your safety is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay after the fact and, kill the miscreant or not, not much will change in the over-all valence of your safety quotient, for (in denying ALL factors but un-controlled gun-ownership) you will indeed be put at risk again and again in other ways that are more or less directly dangerous to you and one - billions of others, by the same things (writ large) that put you in that dangerous situation in which you found it necessary to use your gun in the first place.

So, the difference between what is in fact a lie/smear and what is an essential factor SHOULD be much more important than most people are pretending it is, even to those who value un-controlled gun-ownership above ALL else.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 PM

27. If one of our soldiers did this in another country....

This is horrible. I only wish people would be just as upset over the killing of the innocent our military does.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:49 PM

30. Reports of fourteen children dead and you're worried about smears?

Kindergarteners. Killed in their own school.

Get your priorities straight.

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Response to 1gobluedem (Reply #30)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:01 PM

50. No one has a lock on compassion. Right off...

a smear from someone who "has his priorities straight." Where were his priorities? Where are your's?

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #40)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:10 PM

63. Such compassion. Is it legal to carry arms at that school?

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:41 PM

14. Guns weren't a problem until some of us started trying to take them away.

 

these are the unintended consequences of dubious intentions and it's way too late to put the genie back in the bottle now.

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:44 PM

20. I guess i shouldn't be surprised how deep the sickness is among the enablers

After all they fetishize an object whose purpose is to maim and kill

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Response to villager (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:50 PM

31. these are the fruits of your labors, not ours.

 

you incited the panic which created the demand which created the current supply. This plague is yours.

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:52 PM

35. again, you are even sicker than first reckoned

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Response to villager (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:58 PM

46. Where do these people come from?

No, seriously, is the gun lobby paying for bots now?

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Response to wellst0nev0ter (Reply #46)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:14 PM

66. We are long-time progressive Democrats that some in DU

have made into enemies. Do you consider me the enemy?

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Response to villager (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:12 PM

65. you aren't interested in the truth, you're interested in your agenda.

 

again, you created this plague by inciting a panic within the firearms market and now this country is utterly awash in firearms thanks to your efforts. This is all you. and the worst part of it is you will continue to deny that, continue to push, and comtinue to create a market for firearms that would not have existed had you left well enough alone.

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #65)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:37 PM

89. FOX news created the "panic"

Pathetic.

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Response to redwitch (Reply #89)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:38 PM

90. the hell they did.

 

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:15 PM

69. You are sick. nt

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:18 PM

72. You are one sick person.

I teach second grade. Should I be made to walk around with a pistol on my hip? Is the right for our country to arm itself to the teeth so important to you that a kindergarten teacher should be at the ready to lock and load while amongst her kids? Fucking sick.

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Response to callous taoboy (Reply #72)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:25 PM

78. ask the Israelis about it.

 

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #78)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:29 PM

81. Fucking worst non-reply ever.

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Response to callous taoboy (Reply #81)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:35 PM

85. bullshit.

 

They arm their teachers and teachers aids because their society is awash in guns and pychopaths too and it works. deal with it.

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Response to villager (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:51 PM

33. I'm sure the NRA would love to see DU divided over gun ownership. Thanks for helping them.

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:45 PM

22. It's attitude and not just the gun.

 

People have had guns for centuries and I think it is a bit naive to blame just guns. I fully support gun control in the form of better screening, shutting down loopholes, better training, and using smart technology but that will not stop the violence.

There is a problem of hardcore ideology, intolerance of opposing views, inability to cope with negative issues in life, and downright divisiveness. We could ban all guns and these people would use bombs, knives,fire or whatever. Read about the Bath School Massacre in 1922.

We can work on gun control but there are some other serious social issues no one wants to talk about or deal with. Until then gun control alone will not stop this violence.

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Response to lalalu (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:56 PM

41. US

 

I believe Canadians are as well armed as we are. We seem to be breeding sociopaths.

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Response to reteachinwi (Reply #41)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:00 PM

49. Exactly my point.

 

There are other issues going on that people in this country don't want to deal with.

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Response to reteachinwi (Reply #41)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:02 PM

53. Check that under the heading of "gun control laws in Canada vs. the U.S."

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:18 PM

71. 22 children slashed with a knife in China.

 

Ban Ginsu for the children!!!!!

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Response to I Make Sure (Reply #71)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:22 PM

76. And none dead.

FAIL.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:32 PM

2. CBS just broke into their network programming and reported that Federal authorities told them

to expect some very, very grim news. Possibly up to a dozen or more killed.

Pray these preliminary reports are wrong.

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:35 PM

4. John 11:35

Jesus Wept.

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:36 PM

6. God, I hope the numbers aren't that high.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:40 PM

12. Is there a good number?

One is high. You may not be able to use the 'could have been worse' meme today.
I hope I'm wrong.

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Response to godai (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:52 PM

34. No, there isn't a "good" number...

I'm not following any "meme," are you?

FYI, I read an earlier report of one or two shot, hence my hope.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:57 PM

42. Again, go away.

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Response to godai (Reply #42)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:17 PM

70. Again, No. Do you understand?

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:37 PM

8. only

the truly insane do these type of things. Too many insane people have access to guns. Somehow this access must be stopped. An elementary school??!! My god. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK!!!

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:45 PM

23. Yep, if the shooter had lived, they would put him on trial and convicted him of murder

which would have accomplished nothing.

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Response to RDANGELO (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:18 PM

73. exactly

never has.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:38 PM

10. Oh, God

Kindergarteners. Beautiful, innocent children.

My four year old niece is in pre-K. What I would do if something like this happened at her school is beyond imagination. My heart is breaking for these children and their familes.

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Response to 1gobluedem (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:54 PM

36. my daughter is in kindergarten.

who the fuck would do this - FFS -


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Response to 1gobluedem (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:54 PM

37. So sad. These maniacs are dream-killers because they have lost their own.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #37)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:40 PM

92. I have read two of these threads, Yours is the first to have something negative to say

about the shooter. Out of over 200 posts, yours is the first. Good for you.

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Response to 1gobluedem (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:05 PM

56. I said to my husband that I can't imagine how terrified those parents must've been

driving to the school in a panic, wondering if it was their child...this is so heartbreaking all around...

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:41 PM

15. ABC news reporting "more than a dozen dead" in this shooting

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:42 PM

17. ABC NEWS: More Than a Dozen Killed, Including Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

More than a dozen people, including elementary school children, were shot and killed at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school this morning, federal and state sources tell ABC News.

A shooting involving two gunmen erupted at a Connecticut school this morning, prompting the town of Newtown to lock down all of its schools and draw SWAT teams to the school, authorities said today.

State Police confirm that one shooter is dead. A second gunman is apparently at large.

It's unclear how many people have been shot, but more than a dozen people including school children are dead, multiple federal and state sources tell ABC News.

MORE...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dozen-killed-including-children-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting/story?id=17973836#.UMtksm_ig2A

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:44 PM

19. CBS...27

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:44 PM

21. TWO gunmen? This sounds like Columbine

not the typical lone gunman with a grievance.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:46 PM

24. bbc LINK

'Many die' in US school shooting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20730717

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 PM

28. I cannot stop crying

My heart just breaks for those kids and their families.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:47 PM

29. MSNBC says there are twenty children shot.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:54 PM

39. Local news reported that 27 were shot.

First report was that 12 were dead.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:50 PM

32. this whole thread should be locked.

KIDS GOT FUCKING SHOT. And people are attacking each other on gun control?

Give it a rest for a day. At least.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:57 PM

45. For a day?

 

Too early to talk about gun control again?

When will it be ok?

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:02 PM

51. How dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course we need to talk about gun control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They were not using pain guns and this happens way too often in this country. We need to discuss and discuss and come up with an answer, or a reasonable set of proposed laws/regulations/etc.

I am sick of any reasonable discussion being locked and sent to places owned by gun lobbyists and nuts.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #51)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:03 PM

55. +1

If not now, when?

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #51)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:19 PM

75. There is no "rationale" when it comes to guns

People that have them rejoice in owning them, are proud of them, find them comforting and seem to not care to read about stories like this which there are far too many of!

When you believe in something like guns, there is no rationale to be found. Who/when/what will the next victim(s) be?

I don't know about you but I for one am sick of reading about these horrors that are obviously killing our children! My god, kindergarteners?

May God help them!

to your post!

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:08 PM

59. How is gun control supposed to be off topic here?

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:57 PM

43. Both sad and sick

Simultaneously!



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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:57 PM

44. Associated Press: 27 dead, 18 children.

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Response to meegbear (Reply #44)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:09 PM

61. Holy crap.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:58 PM

47. Latest reports say shooter was a student's father

which does not square with there being 2 gunmen.

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Response to mainer (Reply #47)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:19 PM

74. Reports also say the shooter was 20 years old

That's awfully young to be the father of a child in elementary school.

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Response to marshall (Reply #74)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:36 PM

86. lates update is 24 years old

and he attacked a kindergarten, so he could theoretically be a father.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:00 PM

48. Here is the live video from the scene.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:02 PM

52. Why? Jesus christ why?

F-ed up people with easy access to guns. Great.

So I guess we will all shake our collective heads and bemoan the fact that someone should have noticed that this person was mentally ill sooner and that, goodness, what has become of our society.

Meanwhile another mentally unstable person is buying a semi-automatic rifle somewhere at a gun show.

Children. Damn.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #52)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:09 PM

62. No wonder people in emerging democracies around the world don't want to use our

U.S. Constitution as a "model" one anymore. In many of those countries they have seen enough gun violence in their society.They must think our Supreme Court is nuts over its rulings on gun control of late...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #62)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:12 PM

64. That's probably a fair assessment.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:03 PM

54. most of the dead were in kindergarten?

WTF?

How can anybody do that?

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:05 PM

57. WAS THE SHOOTER ON PSYCHOACTIVE MEDICATION(S)? Can we please start asking the question?

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What Drug Date Where Additional
Suicide Effexor 2011-11-11 England Lawyer Impulsively Jumps In Front of Train: Effexor, like All A/D's, Can Cause Impulsivness
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-11-11 England Physician Kills Himself Shortly After Starting an A/D
Personality Drained Away/Huge Weight Gain Med For Depression 2011-11-10 England After Many Years on A/D's, Man Felt Like His Personaity Was Drained Away & He Became Obese
Violence Med For Depression 2011-11-10 Canada Man Strikes an Ax at a Neighbor
Death Antidepressant 2011-11-10 England 23 Year Old Woman Dies of Cardio-Respiratory Arrest: High Level of A/D's in Body: No Alcohol or Drug
Suicide Celexa Antidepressant 2011-11-10 England Woman, 73, Kills Herself While on Celexa
Murder-Suicide Prozac 2011-11-09 California Man Kills Two Police Officers & Himself
Heart Disease Med For Depression 2011-11-09 Global ++Depression Meds Are More Likely to Cause Heart Disease
Murder Attempt Med For Depression 2011-11-08 Malta/Mediterranean Man Attempts to Murder Uncle With Hammer: Confused & Agitated
Bizarre Behavior Lexapro & Desyrel Antidepressants 2011-11-08 California +Famous Actress Kim Richards Exhibits Bizarre Behavior on TV
Dulled Mind/Numbed Body Zoloft 2011-11-07 Georgia Woman Physician Quits Zoloft: Tells How She Recovered From Depression
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-11-07 Texas Woman Drives Her Car Into Lake
Suicide Antidepressants 2011-11-05 Ohio Soldier, 22, Kills Himself: Black Box Warning on Suicidality for This Age Group
Robbery/Bizarre Med For Depression 2011-11-04 England Man Steals 54 Supermarket Trolleys: Doesn't Know Why: Recent Change in Depression Med
Murder-Suicide Attempt Med For Depression 2011-11-03 New Jersey Mother Kills her Six Year Old Son: Attempts Suicide
Violence Antidepressant Withdrawal 2011-11-03 New York Man Attacks Mail Carrier: Beats Him Violently For No Reason
Suicide Prozac 2011-11-02 England Groomsman Hangs Himself the Day of Sister's Wedding
DUI Paxil 2011-11-01 Connecticut No Alcohol Involved: Woman Crashes Into Car in CVS Parking Lot
Suicidal Thoughts Med For Depression 2011-11-01 New York Vassar Student on Med For Depression Feels Like Killing Herself
Affair With Minor Med For Depression 2011-11-01 Alabama +Woman School Teacher Molests 15 Year Old Male Student
Worsening Condition Zoloft 2011-10-31 U.S.A. Child With Autism Conditions Severly Worsens While on Zoloft
Murder Med For Depression & Bipolar Illness 2011-10-31 South Carolina Mother Kills her Two Sons, Her Husband and Her Step-Mother
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-10-29 Nebraska 18 Year Old Kills Himself
Murder Med For Depression & Alcohol 2011-10-28 Scotland Man Kills Ex-Partner In Front of Their Children
Murder Med For Depression 2011-10-27 Washington DC Father Murders his 17 Year Old Daughter: One Day Withdrawal
Murder-Suicide Meds For Depression & Anxiety 2011-10-27 New York Lawyer Kills his Wife, Two Children & Himself
Ineffective Wellbutrin/Zyban 2011-10-27 Global ++Ineffective in Smokers with Post Acute Myocardial Infarction: Journal Article
Workplace Violence Med For Depression 2011-10-26 Nevada Man Shoots & Injures 3 Managers at Wal-Mart in Oct. 2010: Trial Has Begun
Suicide Antidepressants + Sleeping Med 2011-10-26 Australia Asylum Seeker Commits Suicide
Assault Paxil 2011-10-26 Virginia Woman Assaults Police Officer
Flawed Data Meds For Depression 2011-10-26 U.S.A. ++Black Box Warning for Adolescents & Suicide Showed a Decline in Suicides After 2004
School Stabbing Med For Depression 2011-10-25 Washington **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-10-25 England Woman Plummets From Top Floor of Shopping Center
Affair With Minors Zoloft 2011-10-24 Ohio +Woman School Teacher Molests Five of Her Male Students
False Information Antidepressant 2011-10-24 Global ++Pharmaceutical Co. Listed Emotional Liability For The Suicide Attempts During Clinical Trials
Robbery Med For Depression 2011-10-24 Wisconsin Man of Good Character Tries to Rob Bank
Statisitcs Med For Depression 2011-10-24 U.S.A. ++One-Fourth of Women in Their Forties & Fifties Take Depression Meds
Murder Med For Depression 2011-10-23 Nebraska Live-In Boyfriend Kills his Girlfriend
Violence Med For Depression Withdrawal & Alcohol 2011-10-23 England Man Engages in Frenzied Attacks Two Nights in a Row
Murder Zoloft 2011-10-22 Oregon Four Dead: Man Kills his Father, Step-Mother & Two Others: Possible Withdrawal
Violence Med For Depression 2011-10-22 Massachusetts Woman Knifes Another Woman in the Face: Given 1 Year in Prison
Suicide Suspected Prozac 2011-10-21 California Man Given Double-Dose of Prozac One Week Before He Disappears: Suicide Suspected
Suicide Prozac 2011-10-21 Florida Woman Drowns Herself
Bizarre Behavior Antidepressants 2011-10-20 Idaho Man Wraps Grandmother's Body in a Tarp & Throws in the River After She Has Heart Attack
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-10-18 Canada 15 Year Old Boy Kills Self: Wrote That his Med For Depression Was Not Working
Suicide Antidepressant 2011-10-17 Arizona Postpartum: Mother Prescribed Med For Depression Commits Suicide
Hypomania & Confusion Med For Depression 2011-10-17 U.S.A. Man Becomes Hypomanic & Confused After Taking Depression Med For a Stroke
Shooting Rampage Desyrel Antidepressant & Mood Stabilizer 2011-10-16 California Eight People Dead in Shooting Massacre at a Beauty Parlor
Ineffective Meds For Depression 2011-10-14 Global ++True Drug Effects Were Neglibile for Patients With Mild, Moderate and Even Severe Depression
Violence Med For Depression 2011-10-14 Canada Man Stabs to Death his Beloved Dog and his Two Cats
Murder-Suicide Celexa Antidepressant & a Benzo 2011-10-13 New Hampshire Husband Kills Wife & Himself
Violence Med for Depression 2011-10-13 Pennsylvania Father Gets 5 to 10 Years for Shaking his 3 Month Old Baby: Serious Injuries
Suicide Med For Depression Withdrawal 2011-10-12 Iraq/Tennessee Soldier Kills Self: Family Sues VA Hospital
Murder Attempt Med For Depression 2011-10-12 Canada Mother Attempts to Kill her Two Young Child: Change in her Depression Med Recently
Birth Defects Paxil 2011-10-11 U.S.A. Over 600 Lawsuits Filed for Birth Defects From Paxil
Violence Med For Depression 2011-10-11 England Former Chef Attacks Two Police Officers In House Rage
Robbery Med For Depression 2011-10-11 Scotland Thief Stole Phones From Bank: Had Taken Too Much of his Depression Med
Suicide Prozac 2011-10-11 England Postpartum: Mother of 10 Week Old Infant Kills Self: Recent Withdrawal
Blackouts Antidepressants & Alcohol 2011-10-10 U.S.A. ++Increased Chance of Blackouts Combining A/D's With Alcohol
Hallucinations Zoloft Antidepressant 2011-10-10 California Man Hallucinates For 3 Weeks Upon Taking 75 Mg. of Zoloft As Recreational Drug
Shooting Med For Depression 2011-10-10 New York Shooter in Daily Gazette Newspaper Office in Schenectady Now In Custody
Violence/Death Med For Depression 2011-10-09 New York Man Lunges at Bystanders & Police With a Knife: Is Killed by Police
Hypomania & Worsening Depression Antidepressants 2011-10-09 Global Antidepressants Can Cause Worsening Depression & Hypomania: Psychologist's Report
Felony Med For Depression 2011-10-09 Massachusetts Man Faces Multiple Charges Following Chase With Pregnant Passenger in His Car
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-10-07 England Man's Personality Changed After He Started A/D: Became Paranoid: Killed Self
Worsening Condition Zoloft 2011-10-07 Florida College Student Becomes Worse on Zoloft: Forced to Quit University
Suicide Paxil 2011-10-07 New Mexico Lawsuit Won: $3.2 Million: Woman's Behavior is Bizarre After Taking Paxil: Kills Self
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-10-06 England Suicide Note Left by Man Who Hung Himself
Relapse Antidepressants & Psychiatric Meds 2011-10-06 Global Taken Over a Long Period of Time Those on Meds Are More Likely to Relapse Than the Un-Medicated
Suicides Med For Depression 2011-10-06 Australia Two 16 Year Old Girls Kill Themselvs: Both on Antidepressants: Questions to Be Answered
Less Effective for PTSD Lexapro 2011-10-06 Global Studies in Israel Show Psychotherapy More Effective Than Lexapro For PTSD
Birth Defect/Death Zoloft 2011-10-05 Ohio Parents Claim Pfizer Covered Up Studies Showing This Birth Defect: Lawsuit
Shoplifting Med For Depression 2011-10-04 Canada Woman Shoplifts Whle On New Depression Med
Violence Med For Depression 2011-10-03 Illinois Man Threatens Murder/Suicide: Two Shots Fired: 2 Day Withdrawal
Ineffective Med For Depression 2011-10-03 Michigan Man Who Killed 7 People Said Medicine Didn't Help: Possible Withdrawal?
Murder Med For Depression 2011-10-03 Missouri Life In Prison For Man Who Killed Woman In a Park
Suicide Attempt Antidepressant 2011-10-02 Canada 15 Year Old Boy Attempts Suicide: Recovers When Taken Off Medication For Depression
Violence Med For Depression & Alcohol 2011-10-01 England Man Attacks Friend: Combo of A/D & Alcohol: Most Dangerous Combination
Stand-Off With Police/Suicide Med For Depression 2011-10-01 England Man Has Stand-Off: Kills Himself
Worsening Condition Antidepressants & Antipsychotics 2011-09-30 Texas Teen Girl's Cutting & Self Harm Increased While on Meds: Decreased After Discontinuing Meds
Suicide Antidepressants 2011-09-28 Washington/N Dakota Woman's Son Kills Self: Mother is Now a Member of Suicide Suvivor's Club
Suicide Prozac 2011-09-28 England 15 Year Old Daughter of Well-Known Artist Commits Suicide
Suicide Antidepressants 2011-09-28 England Builder, 37 Years Old, Takes His Own Life
Murder Med For Depression 2011-09-27 Virginia Grandmother Kills 2 Year Old Granddaughter: 2 Day Withdrawal
Embezzlement Med For Depression 2011-09-27 England Woman Treasurer of Children's Group Steals 10,000 English Pounds
Suicide-By-Cop Antidepressant 2011-09-27 Australia Man Shot to Death by Police While Trying to Commit Suicide
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-09-26 California Famous Singer, Vesta Williams, Commits Suicide
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-09-25 Nebraska Male Nurse Kills Himself
Suicide Med For Depression 2011-09-24 Washington 43 Year Old Man Drowns Himself
Murder Antidepressants 2011-09-23 California Woman Kills: Had Long History of A/D Use With Bizarre & Hostile Behavior Associated With A/D Use
Death/Early Psychiatric Medications 2011-09-23 Global Psychiatric Meds Are Causing Early Deaths & Health Care Workers Know This
Suicide Antidepressants 2011-09-22 England IT Engineer Kills Himself
Restless Leg Syndrome SSRIs 2011-09-21 Global ++Both Children & Adults Have Huge Increase in RLS While on SSRIs: Journal Article
Murder Med For Depression 2011-09-20 Illinois Triple Murder: Man Kills 3 People
Oil Spill Zoloft & Painkiller 2011-09-20 California Captain on Zoloft: $44 Million Dollar Settlement for Oil Spill
Murder Prozac 2011-09-20 Alabama Woman Kills Her Husband 53 Days After Wedding
Arson Med For Depression 2011-09-20 Texas Woman Sets Five Fires to Five Different Buildings
DWI-2 Prozac & Alcohol 2011-09-20 Arkansas Woman Arresting for Speeding
Suicide Attempt Antidepressants 2011-09-19 Ireland Postparum: Rock Star's Wife Attempts Suicide
Death Effexor 2011-09-19 Canada Two Babies Die: Autopsy Lists Effexor as Possible Contributing Factor
Murder Antidepressants 2011-09-17 Oklahoma Two Day Withdrawal: Man Shoots Stepdaughter's Friend
Murder Antidepressant 2011-09-16 Rhode Island Mother Kills Her 8 Year Old Daughter: Trial in Progress
Murder Prozac 2011-09-16 Canada *16 Year Old Stabs 15 Year Old: Will Be Tried in Youth Court Because of Bad Reaction to Prozac
Murder Med For Depression 2011-09-16 Canada Grandmother Kills her 2 Grandchildren: Had Just Started a New Med
Vehicular Homicide Antidepressants 2011-09-15 Georgia Woman Kills 3 Teen-aged pedestrians: Obstructs Officer
Fraud Med For Depression 2011-09-15 Mississippi Woman Working at Health Clinic Commits Fraud
Stand-Off With Police Med For Depression Withdrawal 2011-09-14 West Virginia Man Has 3 Hour Stand-Off With Police: Threatens Suicide & Harm to Others

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #57)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:15 PM

68. NO, because people don't want the truth.

 

They get sexually aroused when a half truth coincides with their political aspirations.

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:08 PM

60. And we'll hear yet more bullshit. . .

"Guns don't kill people-- people kill people!"

Sheesh-- when will this country learn? How many random mass shootings do we have to have?

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Response to BigDemVoter (Reply #60)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:23 PM

77. A gun is never brought to trial. Murderers are.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #77)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:26 PM

80. Unless they kill themselves with their semi-automatic weapon

along with 20+ kids.

No trial. Just dead people.

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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #80)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:33 PM

82. Yeo. That's how these psychopaths operate. And

they will not be stopped as long as they can kill unresisted.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #82)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:36 PM

88. Let's arm the children

Shoot out in the K-5 school.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #77)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:34 PM

83. Oh boy, you're stupid and tiresome-- You are now on IGNORE

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:15 PM

67. So, MO speculation?

My guesses:

End-of-the-world cultist
Homegrown terrorist
Random psychopath

I'll lean towards the last one, but you never really know.

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Response to Jon Ace (Reply #67)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:34 PM

84. The presence of two gunmen indicates conspiracy.

If that report is accurate, it rules out a random psychopath. I'm guessing it was terrorists, either homegrown or otherwise.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #84)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:36 PM

87. this smelled of terrorism from the beginning.

 

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:38 PM

91. Horrifying and deeply sad. Words really can't express

the feelings. Just

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Response to meegbear (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:43 PM

95. Locking as duplicate. Please continue the discussion here...

Original posting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014336138


Updated thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014336450

Thank you for your understanding during this tragedy.

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