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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:46 AM

In addition to close ties with top generals, women in Petraeus scandal had visited White House

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Source: Associated Press, November 17, 12:36 AM

WASHINGTON — Their close ties to the military community giving them unusual access to top generals, Paula Broadwell and Jill Kelley even visited the White House on separate and apparently unrelated occasions before a sex scandal brought down former CIA Director David Petraeus.

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Jill Kelley, the Tampa, Fla., socialite who initiated the investigation that revealed the affair, and her twin sister had two “courtesy” meals at the White House mess as guests of a midlevel White House aide in September and October, the White House official said. Kelley and her family also received a White House tour on the weekend before the Nov. 6 election.

Broadwell, who was writing a book about Petraeus and eventually became his paramour, attended meetings in June 2009 and June 2011 on Afghanistan-Pakistan policy in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which is located in the White House complex, the official said.

The White House visits by Broadwell and Kelley illustrate the wide-ranging access both women enjoyed because of their ties with Petraeus, Gen. John Allen and others in the close-knit military community. The White House official discussed their visits on condition of anonymity because the visitors logs being cited have yet to be made public. ...


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-addition-to-close-ties-with-top-generals-women-in-petraeus-scandal-had-visited-white-house/2012/11/17/78391dae-3091-11e2-af17-67abba0676e2_story.html



Neither met with Obama per a White House official.

So what exactly are the Kelley women doing in these circles of people, just throwing the parties? At least Paula Broadwell is known to work in intelligence, she is supposed to be there, so there is less security concern with her access (albeit the biographer role may have been abused for personal reasons).

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Reply In addition to close ties with top generals, women in Petraeus scandal had visited White House (Original post)
Coyotl Nov 2012 OP
Botany Nov 2012 #1
aletier_v Nov 2012 #3
nc4bo Nov 2012 #6
nc4bo Nov 2012 #2
pscot Nov 2012 #17
leveymg Nov 2012 #4
Coyotl Nov 2012 #18
gordianot Nov 2012 #5
ewagner Nov 2012 #22
hughee99 Nov 2012 #7
aletier_v Nov 2012 #11
hughee99 Nov 2012 #13
Coyotl Nov 2012 #19
hughee99 Nov 2012 #26
JDPriestly Nov 2012 #42
heaven05 Nov 2012 #8
madmom Nov 2012 #9
xtraxritical Nov 2012 #10
aletier_v Nov 2012 #15
Coyotl Nov 2012 #20
bushisanidiot Nov 2012 #12
aletier_v Nov 2012 #16
ewagner Nov 2012 #24
Historic NY Nov 2012 #14
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #21
aletier_v Nov 2012 #25
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #32
TruthTeller Nov 2012 #34
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #39
Coyotl Nov 2012 #23
vaberella Nov 2012 #28
foo_bar Nov 2012 #31
obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #33
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #27
vaberella Nov 2012 #29
Historic NY Nov 2012 #30
freshwest Nov 2012 #35
Coyotl Nov 2012 #37
freshwest Nov 2012 #38
Coyotl Nov 2012 #36
november3rd Nov 2012 #40
Coyotl Nov 2012 #41
aletier_v Nov 2012 #43
Enrique Nov 2012 #44
Coyotl Nov 2012 #45

Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:53 AM

1. OMG

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:57 AM

3. Dates are interesting.

"On Nov. 4, two days before the presidential election and five days before Petraeus visited President Barack Obama at the White House to offer his resignation, Kelley, her twin sister Natalie Khawam, their children and Dr. Scott Kelley went on a tour of the White House.

On Oct. 24, the sisters had lunch in the White House Mess with a White House staffer. That followed a Sept. 28 breakfast between the same three people"


The twins were making a major move on the White House.

My guess is that they were hoping to be swept into the confusion of an incoming Romney administration.

Not sure if they're really spies or not, but they're calculating women.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:03 AM

6. Seems there were quite a few people caught up in the GOP polling BS HA!

The pollsters fooled all those big wallet contributors, poor little freepers donating from the Cheetos slush fund, the Romney's all ready to appear in Tux and ballgowns packed in advance of the BIG EVENING, KKKarl looking like someone torched his Wheaties, Husted going POOF early, various others making a move to slide into Romney/Pug favor so they can grab a piece of the pie.

Behind the political scene - revealed! fresh, hot and steaming FAIL.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:54 AM

2. Rats in the corn.

Lord.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:33 AM

17. +1

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:01 AM

4. They don't make Hostess Ho Hos like that, anymore. Right General?


Get your Ding Dong, while they last.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:40 AM

18. ROFLMAO. The General's Hostess Ho Ho days are over.

In the Petraeus/Allen context, these twins bring new meaning to the term Hostess Ho Ho

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:03 AM

5. These women and the idiot Generals they lead are classic examples of the "honey trap".

Or at least exemplify the potential vulnerability.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:47 AM

22. That's the first term

that came to my mind...all you have to do is read John LaCarre' novels to understand it.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:06 AM

7. Not sure when a white house tour was considered "access",

the other things, maybe, but a white house tour?

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:17 AM

11. Circulating in the area, hoping to make connections.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:22 AM

13. My brother went on a tour not to long ago,

can I tell people I know someone with access to the White House?

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:43 AM

19. Did someone working in the Executive Branch arrange that for them?

And did your brother broker a no-bid deal using his access to high-ranking persons hoping to net himself $80 million dollars. If so, perhaps he can.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:51 AM

26. Only $30 million, so I guess not. n/t

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:30 PM

42. Jill Kelly is quite striking looking

and of Lebanese descent. All she would have to do is catch the eye of an important personage who would remember her face and convince him- or herself he or she could safely befriend Jill.

Jill Kelly may be perfectly OK. We just don't know. But she was definitely seeking attention so we can't discard the notion that she had some intention other than just making friends. Maybe she wanted to get information. Maybe she wanted to get influence. Maybe she just wanted to be able to brag. And maybe she is a true patriot, but she certainly was trying to position herself well.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:09 AM

8. oh shit

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:16 AM

9. I don't understand how this Broadwell person can

be considered the author of a book that was ghost written. I can understand if they say Petraeus was the author, it was his life after all, but why Broadwell? What did she do to deserve the title?

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:17 AM

10. Why is there no souce link for this?

 


Read more: Link to source

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:24 AM

15. here's link to my quote

http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/macdill/article1262009.ece

Plenty of stuff all over the place.

This is kind of interesting -

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/11/jill-kelley-calls-david-petraeus-mistress-paula-broadwell-criminal-stalker

" David Petraeus' mistress Paula Broadwell a "criminal" and accused her of "stalking us all."

In emails she sent to Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn, and released by his office on Friday, Kelley wrote complaining that her name along with those of Petraeus and Gen. John Allen being "exploited by the media,"

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:45 AM

20. Got the link fixed in the OP. Thanks for the notice.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:21 AM

12. I suggest the WH look into that "mid level aide" to find out what the purpose was of inviting

these troublemakers into the white house.

honestly, i think these women are republican plants paid to try to set the president up.
they probably couldn't get close enough to the president or any of his staff to cause trouble
but they found a way into the cia and were able to get petraeus to risk his career
in order to get them the info they are looking for.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:26 AM

16. freepers think they're muslim spies.

I think they were opportunists hoping to parley their military connections into a Romney White House connection.

They're not smart enough to be spies,
no spy would have called the FBI about an anonymous email.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:50 AM

24. I agree with your assumption

making White House Connections with "junior staffers" who's loyalties were with RMoney..who would become a "Senior Staffer" and very influencial in a Repub administration...you are correct sir!
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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:23 AM

14. The WH mess is open to the general public....

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http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/mess-hall.htm

corrected link the parody had better photos

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:47 AM

21. Yup -- I've eaten there

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:50 AM

25. I'll add that to my list of things to do.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:32 PM

32. You can eat in most of the messes/cafes in DC

There, Senate buildings, etc. It's very interesting, and often quite inexpensive!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:46 PM

34. and very tasty

Whenever I go to Washington, every 4 years for NEA. I eat at one of the messes. Senate has great food, the Library of Congress is even better if you can find it.

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Response to TruthTeller (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:35 PM

39. Yes!

LOC has the best! Commerce used to be very good, too, but I haven't eaten there in years and years.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:49 AM

23. Join President Obama for Happy Hours at the White House Mess = Drink White House Honey Ale

O.K., this is sheer serendipity, but check the name of the beer! Honey Ale

NOT THE OFFICIAL WHITER HOUSE WEB SITE!!

The public is now invited to join President Obama and his staff at their regular Happy Hours on Friday afternoons.

Read more about it.
http://whitehouse.gov1.info/white-house-mess/happyhours.html



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Response to Historic NY (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:01 PM

28. The article is weird. It makes it seem rather nefarious what the women were doing.

I thought most of what they did to be rather normal things. So what if it's coincidentally during the time of the election. Actually it makes more sense that it's during that time. You're on the brink of a historical moment in time----the voting in of our President---possible change from one to another.

I felt people were just making it out to be something it most definitely is not.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:14 PM

31. in the interest of disclosure...

We are unable to process your reservation request for the "Dine at the White House" program because there is no "Dine at the White House" program. This is a parody website. The content is fictional.

http://whitehouse.gov1.info/white-house-mess/reservation.html

(see also: http://whitehouse.gov1.info/visit/index.html)

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Response to foo_bar (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:39 PM

33. Citizens are able to eat there

I have done it. You can't just sashay in, as yo can in some of the other government eateries, but you are able to do it. If I could, I'm sure rich people easily can.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:56 AM

27. "Holy guacamole! They had a tour of the White House! We'll pin something on Obama yet!"

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:02 PM

29. Exactly..."They ate at the mess." <---It's public.

Media is sensationalizing stupid, by also assuming we're dumb.

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:03 PM

30. I pee'd in Bush's toilet...

well it was in his house.

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:47 PM

35. Obama's alien baby from his teen years on Mars. Details at your local supermarket check-out line.

?w=595

Clearly, this is why he appointed her as Secretary of State. Extortion. See, plain as day in black and white. We're doomed. All of us.


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Response to freshwest (Reply #35)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:00 PM

37. This brings new meaning to the birther movement

Oh where oh where did Barack really come from

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:12 PM

38. Don't encourage me or I'll post the Obama time travels via the stargate to Mars tale with pix...

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:58 PM

36. NO. What this reeks of is Romney White House Fever.

Maybe that aspect needs to be made a bit more obvious. Those going to the GOP Convention are drooling over possible new party digs on Pennsylvania Ave. Many are drooling over the Abramoffesque possibilities, others over legitimate jobs in the White House, etc.

I'd check Ann Romney's e-mail for redecorating tips from them long before I'd look for an Obama connection

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:57 PM

40. Standard Procedure

This is the usual way that spies and military higher-ups are disposed of by their political rivals. The women are involved with the Intelligence and military communities because operatives in those communities planted them there to get rid of Patraeus.

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Response to november3rd (Reply #40)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:58 PM

41. I'm certainly not buying that line

"Petraeus" would have been gone a while ago then. Broadwell was near Petraeus for other reasons.
Petraeus was disposing of his career by his own decisions just fine w/o outside help (unless you want to call a mistress the help ).

If anyone played a hand in getting rid of Petraeus it was shirtless FBI guy, who wasn't happy that his silly, unwarranted investigation hadn't besmeared Obama.
What was driving him to think this thing was political anyway?

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:36 PM

43. Yes, I'm not buying the spy thing, at least not about the Twins

A real spy would not have involved the FBI and triggered this mess.

Well, okay, they could be spies
but they are amazingly bad at it
so it doesn't matter in that case, either.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:17 PM

44. the women aren't terrorists

they are getting a lot of attention and their lives are being examined and some embarrassing things are being revealed, and people are hating on them, but they don't have cooties and a connection like this isn't a scandal.

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Response to Coyotl (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:33 PM

45. Petraeus scandal puts four-star general lifestyle under scrutiny


Petraeus scandal puts four-star general lifestyle under scrutiny
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/petraeus-scandal-puts-four-star-general-lifestyle-under-scrutiny/2012/11/17/33a14f48-3043-11e2-a30e-5ca76eeec857_story.html

... Of the many facts that have come to light in the scandal involving former CIA director David H. Petraeus, among the most curious was that during his days as a four-star general, he was once escorted by 28 police motorcycles as he traveled from his Central Command headquarters in Tampa to socialite Jill Kelley’s mansion. Although most of his trips did not involve a presidential-size convoy, the scandal has prompted new scrutiny of the imperial trappings that come with a senior general’s lifestyle.

The commanders who lead the nation’s military services and those who oversee troops around the world enjoy an array of perquisites befitting a billionaire, including executive jets, palatial homes, drivers, security guards and aides to carry their bags, press their uniforms and track their schedules in 10-minute increments. Their food is prepared by gourmet chefs. If they want music with their dinner parties, their staff can summon a string quartet or a choir.

The elite regional commanders who preside over large swaths of the planet don’t have to settle for Gulfstream V jets. They each have a C-40, the military equivalent of a Boeing 737, some of which are configured with beds. ....

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