Protests erupt in downtown Atlanta over controversial 'Cop City' and the fatal police shooting of ac

[DashOneBravo]

Source: CNN

CNN) Several people were arrested Saturday evening in downtown Atlanta during protests that came in response to a proposed police training facility and the fatal police shooting of an activist earlier in the week.

Atlanta Police Sgt. Jarius Daugherty told CNN "several arrests" were made after the demonstrations led to property damage, but did not provide an exact number of the people arrested or what property was damaged.

The protests come in response to a planned $90 million, 85-acre law enforcement training facility -- dubbed "Cop City" by its opponents -- and just days after the police killing of a 26-year-old activist near the site of the training center.

Read more: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/21/us/atlanta-cop-city-downtown-protest/index.html

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I just saw it on CNN and checked to see if it had been posted.

Edited. I have not paid attention to this and I don’t know specifics.

[The Grand Illuminist]

1. Property damage and looting does not bring undivided attention.

nt

[stopdiggin]

6. there's a reason why almost all leadership

and organizers disavow ....
Has to be some distance (and some distinction) between being an activist - and a violent punk on steroids.

[manicdem]

2. Attempted murderer?

Didn't the "activist" shoot an an officer?

[Elessar Zappa]

3. If you believe the cops.

There’s no bodycam footage and I certainly don’t give them the benefit of the doubt.

[stopdiggin]

7. they can figure out pretty quickly

whose gun (and what type of ammo) was used in the shooting. If the cops are trying to 'pull one over' here - it won't hold up for very long.

edit: weapon (and ammo) already recovered on scene. to go ahead and argue 'throw down' means that you believe one of the troopers first shot a fellow officer with an unregistered weapon, solely with the intent of 'framing' one of the activists being rousted from the site. that's some real overkill. and some real spin.

[Cattledog]

13. That's right. State Trooper shot. No conspiracy here.

[intheflow]

14. Trooper was shot but how do we know the order of events?

Just as likely the LEOs fired first and trooper was either caught by friendly fire or in a response from protesters. No footage = no accountability. I don’t give cops an auto-pass based on their word alone.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. That's what an investigation is for,

to find out exactly what happened and who fired first.

[Jedi Guy]

21. No footage has been released. It likely exists, though, and no one has said it doesn't.

The officer who was shot is with the Georgia State Patrol, which doesn't issue bodycams to the majority of its officers. That's pretty mindboggling, since in this day and age every patrol officer should be wearing one, IMO. Bodycams protect everyone, officers and the public alike.

No one in an official capacity has said there isn't bodycam footage, as far as I've seen, and officers from other agencies may have been on the scene and involved. There's a very good chance one or more of those officers was wearing a bodycam. I'm reserving judgment until the issue of bodycam footage is addressed directly.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. +100. nt

[intheflow]

27. Valid point.

I just realized I responded to the post above the post I meant to respond to. I thought I'd read it hadn't been recorded, as if that's the end of the story, but perhaps it said recording hadn't been released. Hopefully that's the case.

[Jedi Guy]

30. I dug around on the net for other stories since I was curious about the bodycam issue.

Nothing official has been said about it one way or the other as far as I can find, so I feel like the responsible thing to do is wait and see what develops before coming to a conclusion on whether this shooting was justified or not. Let the investigators do their thing and see where it goes.

To be clear, I'm not referring to you when I say this, but there's no question that leaping to conclusions about police shootings is an Olympic-level sport for some DUers. Those same folks also seem to be operating under the deluded assumption that there's never a justification for police to use lethal force.

[oldsoftie]

4. Yes, shooting a State Trooper is attempted murder.

This site was chosen to build a facility long ago.

[Elessar Zappa]

9. But there's no evidence that happened.

Just the cops word and I don’t give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. There’s no bodycam footage.

[oldsoftie]

17. Well there's a cop in the hospital who was shot. And they have the gun

And the gun was with the guy who got shot by the cops. And the cops didnt shoot till they were shot AT. The cop certainly didnt shoot himself
But it's all a setup? Ok.
Usually the "he said/she said" scam happens when a cop shoots someone and claims the person was a threat.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

5. thanks for posting. I heard yesterday of the planned action

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. FTP. ACAB.

[spike jones]

10. I couldn't agree with you more. n/t

[Jedi Guy]

22. Yes, yes, blue man bad. Blue man always bad. No exceptions.

If Terán did indeed fire first, the officers should have just meekly asked him if he'd mind terribly not shooting at them instead.

[DashOneBravo]

11. Mayor office confirms

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Warpy]

12. The cops are already over militarized

They don't need a facility in which to train for house to house combat in a city.

Someone needs to step in and tell these guys that they are not an occupying army and we aren't insurgents.

Fucking Nixon, he did this to us to get around Posse Comitatus. We need to find a way to undo it.

[EX500rider]

31. I thought the argument around here was that cops DID need more training nt

[Warpy]

32. Ever hear of de escalation training?

No?

Carry on.

[EX500rider]

34. But that is still training, which requires a facility, no? nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

15. People taking the side and word of the police right away.

Smdh. No wonder police get off all the time they can’t even count on the “left” to push back a little. Are you afraid that if you practice dissent antifa is going to come to your lily white suburbs?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

16. Police do not get off all the time,

there are lots and lots of videos on youtube that prove you wrong.

Yes, some cops do get off, but with the proliferation of camera phones and the like, more and more cops are being held accountable.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

36. Sure thing...

Cases of prosecution are few and far between. Let me guess...you're a white boy?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

41. Again,

go to youtube, there are plenty of videos cops being charged and convicted of crimes.

White boy?
Really?

[oldsoftie]

19. You must not be from the area. Most "lily white suburbs" are highly integrated these days.

40 yrs ago, yeah, they were mostly white. But the black middle & upper class in ATL has grown a GREAT deal over the years. And a lot of people of ALL colors are glad to see the new mayor appearing to be ready to crack down on what's been a growing crime & violence problem downtown. And as someone who has spent a lot of money there over the years, I certainly welcome it.

[Hortensis]

33. Yes. Atlanta's half black, holding a whole lot of those good

jobs that have been flooding in over the past decades and buying homes in those supposed lily white subdivisions. Something like 27% of black Atlantans hold bachelor's degrees, fourth highest city in the nation.

It helps to now and then put down the confirmation bias and go for a walk.

[RandiFan1290]

20. Anyone can sign up here

and post whatever they want.

I never assume someone here is 'left'

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. They certainly can sign up here and post,

but not whatever they want, MIRT is pretty good a detecting trolls and disrupters and tombstoning them.

[RandiFan1290]

24. Not that good.

The zombie accounts easily get around MIRT.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. And sooner or later they slip up

and get booted by the Admins.

Just because there are members here who take a different opinion of the cops doesn't mean they're zombies, trolls or disrupters, it means they just have a different opinion.

[stopdiggin]

29. I would dispute that

But if you are convinced you can identify such ('zombie') accounts - then please do lend a hand by alerting administrators.

[stopdiggin]

28. well, we also have a considerable contingent of knee jerk

'cops bad, always at fault, can't be trusted' crowd - so it probably evens out.

[oldsoftie]

35. Definitely.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

37. Does it "even" out?

Someone saying "cops bad" is not the same as there being zero justice for Freddie Grey. Reprehensible comment on your part.

[stopdiggin]

40. we are both here responding

to an OP concerning an 'incident' in which it seems at least very likely that there was little or no police misconduct at all. So my 'comment' was directed at pointing to the fact that dogmatism, and a seeming unconcern for the unique facts of any particular case - will prevail on the part of good many posters. This thread serving as a good case in point. And as such, I believe my 'comment' was quite within bounds - and nothing like reprehensible - in either tenor or intent.

And also perhaps a good deal more 'on point' than dragging Freddie Grey into the mix. Is he connected to this case in some way?

[purr-rat beauty]

38. I'm confused...

If the officer WAS shot - wouldn't that just be the individual using their 2nd Amendment rights against a perceived tyrannical threat?

Isn't that what the Rightwing believe in? Shouldn't they support that and the resulting discord due to the corruption of the Authorities?

[Hotler]

39. Some media outlets named the protesters Antifa right out of the gate in their first sentence.

Only fascist supporters would do a thing like. Those media outlets are usually found on MSN.com.