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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:13 AM

Papa John's CEO John Schnatter Says Company Will Reduce Workers' Hours In Response To Obamacare

Source: Huffington Post

In the wake of President Obama's reelection, one CEO is doubling down on his criticisms of Obamacare.

Papa John’s CEO John Schnatter said he plans on passing the costs of health care reform to his business onto his workers. Schnatter said he will likely reduce workers’ hours, as a result of President Obama's reelection, the Naples News reports. Schnatter made headlines over the summer when he told shareholders that the cost of a Papa John’s pizza will increase by between 11 and 14 cents due to Obamacare.

"I got in a bunch of trouble for this," he said, referring to the comments he made in August, according to Naples News. "That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this."

Schnatter went on to say he's neither in support of, nor against the Affordable Care Act, even admitting that "the good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance.” But he’s not the only one in the chain restaurant industry to admit that workers hours may be reduced, since Obamacare mandates that only employees that work more than 30 hours per week are covered under their employers health insurance plan. For example, Darden restaurants, the parent company of Olive Garden and Red Lobster, has already experimented with reducing workers hours in anticipation of the legislation.

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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/papa-johns-obamacare-john-schnatter_n_2104202.html

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:14 AM

1. well, it's crappy pizza anyway, so I won't miss getting any.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:22 AM

13. It's the worst pizza I've ever had.

And he's a scumbag, so it figures. Worst ads on TV, also.

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Response to speedoo (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:31 AM

21. +1

Chain pizza is all bad, but his is the worst. I can't stand the way he tries to "carpet bomb" through ad saturation to make us overlook its blandness. Same with those stupid beer commercials hawking 'Lite' watery tasteless garbage.

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Response to Populist_Prole (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:47 AM

29. Take Action Here

Let's tell the Papa how we feel about this

http://www.papajohns.com/customer/feedbackform.shtm

I'm getting ready to start an activism project with this... We need to find out which pizza chains plan to insure their workers. But for now we can "carpet bomb" them with complaints

http://www.papajohns.com/customer/feedbackform.shtm

I chose, "Employee Relations" as the feedback option.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:05 AM

42. thanks.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:17 AM

53. Done. He is banished from my life.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:19 AM

56. Sent my complaint, screw these corporations who want to play politics.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:33 AM

63. Done

My message:

"... I will not spend another dollar at Papa John's because I cannot support John Schnatter's transparent political bullying as reported in the Naples News. I do recognize that there is are decisions to be made when a business that failed to provide health care coverage for 2/3 of its work force needs to pay the full cost of employing its workers. But publicly blaming a law that preserves for-profit medicine while ending unfair treatment of low-wage employees in the wake of the election is political grandstanding. And implying Obama's health care initiative forces reductions in hours for Papa John's workers is particularly absurd in light of your CEO's previous estimate that these costs might add less than fifteen cents to the price of a pizza. As a consumer, fifteen cents would not make the difference between my choosing to buy a pizza or choosing something else, and I'd be thrilled to know I was buying from an employer who actually valued the welfare of its employees were the price increase explained in those terms. Instead, the message I hear is that Scnhatter just wants to wring every last dime from his employees, and is willing to mess with their ability to earn a living wage just to avoid chipping in for their health insurance and to curry favor with his Republican friends."

I've actually been making my own since I saw how much sodium is in their pizza, but if I need to buy some for a class or something, as I occasionally do, I'll definitely buy elsewhere.

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Response to caraher (Reply #63)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:57 AM

77. Fantastic. Very well said

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Response to caraher (Reply #63)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:31 AM

89. Could not have said it better myself

Well stated and thank you. I supported this crap pizza for quite a while as they are the only ones who deliver to my area. No longer, I will not take the drive to the local market and pick up a frozen pizza. While I will not miss Mr. Schnatter's garbage, Im sure that in time he will feel the crunch of losing customers due to his own greed.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:44 AM

70. Tell Papa John his pizza Sucks and Big Apple Pizza Rocks in Florida..and too bad

it's not all across the country so more people can eat delicious pizza!

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:36 AM

90. i would like to know if there's a pizza chain out there

that is embracing obamacare for their workers. if i was in the pizza chain business that's what i'd do right now. it would be great for business.

this guy's greed and the greed of most corporatists is just sickening.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #90)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:01 AM

94. good question

I'd like to know too! If they are embracing healthcare for their employees, I would be happy to buy their product.
I doubt it though, so I will continue to never go to a chain and always support my local pizza places, local markets and all those ' mom and pop' businesses first!

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:26 AM

100. DONE. I SENT ONE TOO

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:34 AM

102. Good idea , we did too

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:40 AM

107. Thanks and emailed! n/t

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:21 AM

113. Done...

...and I got the nicest auto reply -- a "thank you" for telling the CEO to go fuck himself!

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:28 AM

121. Done


We were customers up until they pulled the .25 cents for Obamacare per pizza crap and did a fund raiser for Romney.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:09 AM

145. Their form is ridiculous to fill out. I wanted to make a general complaint but

could find no way to do that. The form seems to target a specific location/store. I'll just boycott ... haven't eaten there in decades anyway, ate there once years ago and the food was horrible.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #145)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:17 AM

168. I entered required info but made it clear this was not a location-specific complaint

I chose "Other" for my feedback category, then "Employee Relations" for my subcategory.
Here's what I wrote:

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This is NOT a complaint about a specific store; location information was only filled in above because this form requires it.

This is a concern about the direction of the company, and specifically about the recently publicized statement by CEO John Schnatter that he will pass on the costs of health care to his workers by cutting their hours. Mr. Schnatter previously said that Obamacare would raise the cost of a pizza by 11 to 14 cents. (Frankly, the increase in the price of gas since Hurricane Katrina probably has, or should have had, worse effects; I have not seen any statements about that by Mr. Schnatter.) I would have been happy to pay that slight per-pizza increase, but I am not happy to support a company that tries to make a political statement by cutting workers' hours. Unless and until the company's CEO rescinds this position, my household will no longer be customers of Papa John's, either for our own consumption or when ordering with friends, for work, or for other group events.
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Response to Bibliovore (Reply #168)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:59 PM

238. Also, you can put in totally fake info, like Fuck You Street, the zip code doesn't have to match

city as it does on some such forms.

Yes, I put immature things in forms to horrible politicians and companies. It works for me.

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Response to Bibliovore (Reply #168)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:14 AM

255. Response received

I received a same-day response from Papa John's. Here it is, slightly anonymized, followed by my reply:

========================================

{Firstname uncapitalizedlastname} {firstlastnumber}@gmail.com

to me, {cc: someone with a Yahoo account}

Hello

Thank you for your comments. We are a locally owned franchise of Papa Johns Pizza and,as operator of our franchise, I am very proud of the owners, my staff, and our {City uncapitalizedstate} stores. We are not part of corporate Papa Johns International and we do not reflect any political views of John Schnatter. In fact, we focus on the community and giving back to local organizations and school groups only. We do not affiliate with any political group intentionally. Most of our fundraising is for the kids.

I understand that many people have strong political views and I am glad that more people spend the time to educate themselves on the real issues though. I wish that you would continue to patron our restaurant, but I do understand your stance.

Best wishes


{First Last}
Director of Operations
Bajco 100, LLC dba Papa John's Pizza
812-{phone number}
Fax 812-{fax number}
{firstlastnumber}@gmail.com

========================================

Thank you for your response. I appreciate that my local Papa John's restaurants are not part of Papa John's International, but do they not pay franchise fees to the parent corporation? If the parent corporation says to limit workers to fewer than 30 hours per week to avoid having to offer them benefits, would these locations comply?

You say you are locally owned, but the phone and fax number in your signature block have an Indiana area code, and the company name you list, Bajco 100 LLC, is not based in my town and proclaims buying Papa John's restaurants throughout and outside of the United States:
http://www.bajco.net/

I tried looking up how Papa John's franchises operate, and found this:
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/buy-papa-johns-pizza-franchise-40892.html
"The fees cover an initial $25,000 franchise cost for each restaurant you open. In addition, you pay 5 percent of monthly net sales to Papa John's in royalty and 7 percent of monthly net sales to fund both national and local marketing."
This site outlines additional fees:
http://www.franchisedirect.com/foodfranchises/papa-johns-franchise-07050/ufoc/
If these are accurate, part of every purchase from the local franchise goes to the parent company.

I am glad to hear that the local Papa John's restaurants contribute to the local community, and we enjoy the food. But I have no wish to support a company that threatens to screw over its workers to make a political statement.

If John Schnatter rescinds his worker threat, I will happily begin ordering from Papa John's again, for home, work, and organizational meals. I will do so even if the pizza price is slightly higher to cover health insurance costs.

If he does not, then if my local Papa John's ever drops the chain to become a different restaurant, or if its owners close their Papa John's and open a separate restaurant that does not try to pull political shenanigans, I would love to be notified, and I will be glad to frequent that new business.

Best wishes,

{me}

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:50 AM

160. Done also

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:03 AM

180. Done. My complaint...

I am upset over recent remarks made by your CEO concerning the Affordable Care Act, both before the election and now. After telling Americans to expect higher pizza prices, he is now threatening his employees with reduced employment.

"Gaming the system" by artificially cutting employees hours in order to evade a civic responsibility IS NOT acceptable. I'm sure there are regulatory remedies and I will support them. But here is my more immediate and personal remedy: NO MORE POPPA JOHNS. You have lost me as a customer.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM

186. Done

Thanks fpr the link. We stopped buying Papa John's when he first started blathering about Obamacare and upping the price of his pizza.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:01 PM

206. done

thanks for the link

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:46 PM

211. i hate their pizza . . .

so it's easy for me to boycott them.

CostCo gives benefits to their employees.
I know they are not a pizza chain, but I'd
buy a pizza from CostCo before I buy from
Papa Juans.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:30 PM

224. I chose "Marketing"

and explained that I don't want to be served by employees who are denied the basic human right of health care.

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Response to LeighAnn (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:23 AM

246. Done!

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Response to speedoo (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:10 AM

82. Don't go to Dominoes either, it's a Bain Capital enterprise.

 

Papa John's sucks anyhow, who would even miss it?

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #82)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:44 AM

253. That's not pizza. They simply recycle cardboard.

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Response to speedoo (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:11 PM

223. eh it's pure shyte

and it will do that to you ... shyte gives you more shyte!



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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:22 AM

14. "shrug" I like their pizza to be honest.

Of course that doesnt mean the ceo isnt a little piece of shit for doing this because the fact is that is what he is.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:13 AM

51. Yeah, I do too.

But oh well. No more of that.

I can buy pepperonicci at the store and put it on some other pizza myself. Not a problem.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:14 AM

52. Ugh. I can't imagine anyone would like that weak pizza.

It's like eating a bologna sandwich and calling it a panini.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #52)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:54 AM

259. Well lets take the discussion from your imagination over to reality then.

http://ir.papajohns.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=697055
Clearly there are alot of people who do like "that weak pizza" as you like to put it even though the ceo is a douchebag.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:09 AM

46. Crappy is right.

 

Sounds like working for them is also crappy. Unfortunately I ordered one a decade ago. It was my last. I can't boycott them now.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:22 AM

99. WE DONT EAT PAPA JOHNS.... AS LONG AS HE IS A DICK, WE NEVER WILL

BOYCOTT APPLEBEES ALSO


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/11/09/1173181/applebees-ceo-obamacare/



Zane Tankel, the CEO of Applebee’s New York Franchise, Apple-Metro, is so dedicated to not spending money on his employees that he’s refusing to hire anyone new. Why? Because he might have to provide them health care.

Under the Affordable Care Act, a business of 50 people or more must provide a health care option for its employees by 2014. The 40 Applebee’s restaurants in New York employ hundreds of people, and Tankel believes providing them with health insurance plans will be too costly. In an appearance on Fox Business News, the CEO said he won’t be able to hire new people because of the law, and even floated the idea of layoffs:

TANKEL: We’ve calculated it will be some millions of dollars across our system. So what does that say — that says we won’t build more restaurants. We won’t hire more people — exactly the opposite of what the President says.

HOST: Do you feel under pressure to move to a more part-time workforce, as other restaurants are doing because of Obamacare?

TANKEL: The model’s been set. I’m sure all our people are watching this right now, so I don’t want to make any commitments one way or another. I just want to say we’re looking at it, we’re evaluating it, if it’s possible to do without cutting people back, I’m delighted to do it. But that also rolls back expansion, it rolls back hiring more people, and in a best-case scenario we only shrink the labor force minimally.

VIDEO FOLLOWS......................................

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #99)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:31 AM

131. The worst meal I have ever had in my entire life was at Applebees.

The only reason I went there was because my daughter worked there. But they treated her so badly, she quit in less than 30 days.

I've never ordered Papa Johns so I will continue NOT to eat there.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #99)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:11 AM

146. +1000 NEVER AGAIN

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #99)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:50 AM

203. That is Applebees in New York

Not sure about the rest of the chain.

Keep in mind, we should distinguish between the corporate mothership and the franchisee. Of course we now know that Papa John's corporate CEO is an asshat.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:24 AM

250. What. Ws the quote?

 

Tastes like dead 'possum ass served on a dirty ashtray

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:15 AM

2. Agreed with post #1: I've eaten there once and it was awful!

So this is how the GOP is going to do it. Well, screw 'em, we'll all eat and buy from the small businesses, then.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:16 AM

3. That's fine, I'll just reduce my orders to Papa John's accordingly, too n/t

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:17 AM

4. No Papa John's for me.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:17 AM

5. No more Papa John's for this household

When I heard what this douche-bag was doing I stopped all email from them and sent a note to their office informing them that they had lost a customer.

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Response to nakocal (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:24 AM

18. Make your own pizza. It is insanely easy to do.


Most chain pizza is loaded with fat and oil. Very bad.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:52 AM

74. Grilled pizza.

It's the BEST! Not to mention VERY cheap, especially if you make your own sauce. I haven't bought chain pizza since I found out how to make it.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #74)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:24 AM

115. Sooooooooooooo....

your recipe???

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Response to Hepburn (Reply #115)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:17 AM

130. Actually, I have to give DUer

Stinky the Clown the credit for this. She/He posted four videos in the Cooking & Baking Group on DU on how to make it.

Here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/115713130#post2

I use the technique in Video #3. Instead of tossing or rolling the dough, you just stretch it out in a greased baking sheet. It's MUCH easier.

Bon appetite!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #74)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:46 AM

158. Yup.

Since I learned to make pizza on my grill a couple of years ago I think I only have ordered pizza twice.

We have a very nice, high end, artisan pizza place here in town that sells their hand made pizza sauce for about $4 a quart and it's the best sauce I've ever had, so I use it on mine.

It's nice knowing I make the best pizza some people have ever had.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:08 AM

112. Now your talking!

Yes...make your own pizza. It's fun to do with a friend and family. I have been making my own pizza for 12 years. I use good ingredients like King Arthur's flour, Boars Head pepperoni, fresh mozzarella and make my own sauce, grown my own basil. It is a big cost savings as well.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:35 AM

171. Make your own pizza. It is insanely easy to do.

And actually kinda FUN to do. You get all possible toppings out and then the kids/guests make their own. Pizza dough IS insanely easy to make. Or use a can of biscuit dough.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:17 AM

6. Nationalize Papa John's.

Bring Chik-Fil-A to Jesus.

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Response to Loudly (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:55 PM

221. I would support people-owned pizza

Each state could have its own pizza or each town

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:19 AM

7. Power mad little weasel..

I think I'm channeling David Letterman there. Anyway, I'm going all free market on this clown, and deciding to shop elsewhere. Same with Shit-filet and Staples.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:20 AM

8. They'll just have to face active boycotts

Vocal opposition to this kind of corporate greed will start going a long way. These butt-hurt CEOs that want to play politics with the health and livelihood of their workers will face a backlash from once-loyal consumers who expect that the companies they patronize take care of their employees' needs.

Let's find out who is willing to provide their workers with full-time work and health care, and make it well known.

Some picketing will go a long way, too. Must organize.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:20 AM

9. It is nice to see how much love some corporations send to their employees

'You workers are only here to make money for me, so fuck you if you think I should care', said by corporations from coast to coast.



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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:20 AM

10. This article, for me encapsulates why the endless wave to privatize government functions

needs to be stopped.

Fact 1: We the people and our representatives put in a law that represents a broad, decent notion that people should have health care. So if you have 30 hour employees, you gotta give them health care benefits.

Fact 2: The profit motivated companies immediately make moves to protect profit, despite the negative impacts to its own employees.

I DO NOT quarrel with these companies freedoms to act in the interest of their profit. What I do quarrel with is people like Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and MANY others always painting with the broad brush that privatization is always better.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:49 AM

174. The profit motivated companies immediately ....

... to screw the very people that make their company make money.

What amazes me is how these CEOs don't care about the company. Profits, these days, seem to just be hoarded and not any % of them put back into the company.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:20 AM

11. Simple solution....medicare for all and pro-rate the employer portion as a percent.

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Response to yourout (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:06 AM

181. Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner. My biggest complaint about ACA. Logically it should be handled like a payroll tax. If it is handled like a step function, then profit maximization would dictate employers do what they are planning on doing. They have been doing it for years where union contracts dictate benefits after a certain number of hours. My wife got into trouble because she worked too many hours and qualified for benefits for one quarter (she was just working when they told her).

Saying you won't buy the pizza doesn't solve the problem.

I find fascinating how my office workers are saying ACA will lead to our employer just paying the penalty instead of giving us health benefits. I ask them why does the employer currently give us health benefits? Their reply after some prodding - market conditions. I said what changes under ACA. They do not have an answer.

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Response to yourout (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:23 AM

185. Well, duh! Of course that's what we should have done in the first place.

For decades the people with money have been lined up against this. First the American Medical Association because they wanted to protect the high reimbursements to sub-specialties. Then the commercial insurance industry when they realized how much money they could make insuring the young and healthy while letting the government take care of the poor and elderly. Every time reasonable people have suggested the obvious and reasonable solution - the approach used by every other industrialized nation on Earth - the money-grubbers go bananas and spend billions convincing people that Obamacare will kill them.

The time may have come for us to push through the second half of Obamacare, which is universal health care coverage for all. It will save us trillions of dollars and result in much better health of all our people. In turn, this will help the economy enormously. It's a win-win-win.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:20 AM

12. I've had my last Papa John pizza

liek a long time ago because they are so bad.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:31 PM

220. Me too

I used to get pizza from there but stopped liking it a long time ago. I wish I could boycott but since I don't buy from there to begin with I can't.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:23 AM

15. That's so cute.

I think that people have noticed that a lot of employers have reduced the hours for employees over the last 10 years just to get out of paying benefits. That's why we have so many people underemployed. Now they have a convenient scapegoat in Obamacare.

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Response to justgamma (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:11 AM

98. I don't really believe that Papa...

Has that many employees that are getting benefits now, anyway. Scapegoat is exactly right.

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Response to justgamma (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:41 AM

172. That sounds about right.

I've always had a difficult time getting full-time work at any commercial establishments.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:24 AM

16. We don't eat Papa John's crap.

We buy REAL pizza from Mom and Pop pizza places or I make my own.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:24 AM

17. His pizza is over priced shit anyway

I've had his pizzas numerous times over the years. Mostly because one of the pizza shops was near where we lived. I always wanted to like them because of how close it was, quick delivery or pick up. But they just weren't not good for the price. It's not better pizza, better ingredients. It's over priced and it sucks.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:27 AM

19. Someone Help Me Here

 

This is the same fuck who can afford to give away 1 million, no wait, 2 million free pizzas according to the ad with Peyton Manning? WTF is wrong with this picture? $10 per pizza? Go figure.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:29 AM

20. I'm sure his employees will respond to this by doing an extra good job


Or perhaps they'll slowly sabotage his food, act obnoxious to customers, treat equipment poorly, disrespect his properties and share embarrassing stories of him and his family with everyone they know. In short, he'll entirely lose their loyalty.

If he were a military commander and said this about his troops, I can certainly guess how his 'loyal troops' would respond on the field.

ie. I hope he doesn't eat his own pizzas after his announcement

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:56 AM

138. If the Papa John's pizza is of the quality

that many of the above posters have indicated, then sabotaging the food might actually make it worth getting.

And, yeah, for as much as the folks on the right venerate the military I don't see much evidence that they actually understand how the military works. It was my experience that, as a sergeant, it was my job to take care of those of lesser rank; to make sure that they had what they needed to do the job and to look out for their welfare. It was the duty of those above me to make sure that I had what I needed to do my job. It works like that all the way up the chain of command. The right-wing seems to get that structure backward - they believe that the it's the job of the little guy to provide for the big guy.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:31 AM

22. Translation I can't figure out how to make a dollar in this economy...

Yet, some businesses seem to thrive no matter what the economy is like. Perhaps it's better management or perhaps a better business model. Whatever it is these CEOs that are complaining about how hard it is with ObamaCare should figure out how to be successful in the new economy.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:35 AM

23. Excellent. Stories like this will help get Single Payer back into discussion. . .

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:39 AM

24. I swear this ass pimple told us the effect of obamacare would amount to around $0.14 per pizza

cost increase. You mean to tell me he can't pass that cost along? i would have no problem paying an extra quarter dollar for the knowledge his employees are a little more secure and he could pocket the change. But no, he' decides to d-bag up and double down on the shitheadedness?

Fuck you Papa and the horsemeat sausage that you put on your pizza.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 AM

189. Yes, like 12 to 15 cents per pizza. It's a level playing field. His competitors have same rules.

If he can't compete, he can't compete. If he thinks squeezing his employees is a winning strategy, he'll find he can't compete to find good employees.

But he probably hates hard-working immigrants too. Or if he doesn't hate them, he thinks he can exploit them. At the very least he thinks he can exploit low-wage employees by crushing them down below 30 hours a week.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:45 AM

25. My son delivers Papa John's pizza for a living.

I personally don't like the pizza, but son does and he enjoys doing pizza delivery.

He does not get health insurance through the company.

It's a long and *honorable* tradition in the retail and restaurant industries that employees work 30 or fewer hours per week so as not to have to pay benefits. This has been going on my entire working life, and I'm 64. So claiming "Obamacare" is the reason is bullshit.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:28 AM

60. This sure makes sense to me. When I worked food service, we NEVER got 30 hrs/wk

Who gets 30+ hours delivering pizza or working in the kitchen?

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #60)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:14 AM

85. i worked over 40 hours a week

in a kitchen for over a year not to long ago..
and i definitely wasnt offered any benefits whatsoever from anybody.
i was just happy to be making slightly over minimum wage..

there were even times i didnt get a day off for 2 months. id work 7 days a week (tho sometimes i could get sunday off if i really really tried) , 9-4 every day.

heck, the business was even owned by a prominent local and state democrat (whom ive talked badly about on DU before if anyone remembers because he was a corrupt crook who dishonors democratic ideals)..

at any rate, sounds like i got screwed if i shoulda been getting extra benefits
doh

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Response to iamthebandfanman (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:51 PM

242. I trust you at least got time and a half

for every hour over forty. If not, contact your state's equivalent of the Labor Relations Board.

Here in New Mexico, if a business cheats the employees out of wages, the employer winds up paying triple to the employee.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:45 AM

26. Ok. I can easily buy pizza elsewhere. Theirs is a rip-off anyway.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:45 AM

27. are we all in agreement here?

boycott that shit (as a vegan animal lover , i wouldn't eat it anyway) but boycott that shit people, and please spread the word

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Response to veganlush (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:03 AM

41. absolutely... boycott

But a boycott is doubly effective if you buy from other "left thinking" companies as well.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:46 AM

28. Nothing like turning off Dem voters to enhance your company's bottom line.

Asshole!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:47 AM

30. I mentioned in another thread

That companies were doing this. Laying people off, and blaming the upcoming taxes, or the ACA, or Obama's re-election bid. I said at the time it was a Rethug plan to hang failure around the neck of President Obama by driving unemployment up. They lost money backing Romney, and now they're doubling down to drag Obama down. It may be insane, but they'll destroy America in an effort to make sure we don't have a demonstrable manner to show our success. Petty I know, but there it is.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:48 AM

31. This is this fuckers house.




What a scumbag.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:51 AM

33. Wow, we should ALL live like that!

Maybe Papa John can lay off enough people to make that happen.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:54 AM

35. "Greed is good." - Gordon Gekko

And Gekko never had a place like that!

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:07 AM

45. ridiculous and ugly.

fits right in with the scumbag.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:35 AM

66. No one...

should be able to live like that

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #66)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:02 AM

190. People who treat employees right & still make a profit should be able to live like that. They exist.

Not as many as the scumbags who shit on their employees to skim a measly dime here and there.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #66)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:32 AM

195. Willard 'Mitt' Romney disagrees with you. Here he is commenting on Schatter's home:

"Don't you love this country? What a home this is, what grounds these are, the pool, the golf course...Republicans come here and say everyone should live like this."

He failed to mention that the trees are all the right height, but he does think everyone should live an excessive and gluttonous lifestyle.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #195)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:05 PM

239. Right, the pool boy, the gardeners, the maids, etc. can all live this way. How do people fall for

such nonsense?!!!

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:06 AM

95. sickening isn't it?

The best thing to do to a guy this rich and twisted is to make him POOR! Boycott now and forever. It's a crappy product anyway.

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Response to Bette (Reply #95)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:50 AM

161. "It's a crappy product anyway."

What?!! Don't you like the taste of tomato sauce on cardboard?!





Welcome to DU!!!

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Response to Bette (Reply #95)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:04 AM

166. Yes, it is sickening.....

think of the environmental footprint of that ugly ass house. However, there are plenty of those where I live and all over the place. Sometimes we forget how the rich people trash the planet for the rest of us peons.

Oh, and don't ever eat Dominoes either because Monaghan is another rich scumbag who tried to force his ultra rightwing Catholic nonsense on people.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:18 AM

118. WTF is that? Neverland? Holy mother of all things holy! nt

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:41 PM

225. Think it would be bad taste to send him a 100 Papa John's pizza's?

(Yeah there was a pun in there somewhere)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:50 AM

32. Papa, just raise the price of your pizzas by 11 cents or whatever. Problem solved.

Your employees must be so proud and loyal.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:51 AM

34. These people are just cruel assholes.

 

Really, this fucking pig is going to screw his customers over 14 cents. What a scumbag.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:54 AM

36. Boycotted that shitty pizza long ago

I'd rather eat fucking Tonys microwave pizzas. What an utter dickhole that guy is.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:56 AM

37. We have several family owned

pizzerias within 2 miles and they all make much better pizza. There's also a Papa Johns but it doesn't get much action. Looks like Papa didn't do a good demographic study before setting up shop in this area.
If anything they'll raise prices, but not enough to affect sales. A customer who's spending $9.00 for a pizza won't go somewhere else for 15 cents. But they would go for a better pizza even for a dollar more.
Papa can blame Obama until the cows come home, but Papa is the ultimate winner or loser depending how well the business is run.
He's probably going down the crapper and is using the President as a convenient scapegoat.
Most people around here only go to Papa John's once. Simply put, their product sucks.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:59 AM

38. Never had PJ's before, never will.

I can't believe all the hubbub comes from having to pay just 4% more in taxes...John Schnatter (and Peyton Manning) are nothing but Republican lames who should go fuck themselves and quit making those cheesy commercials (no pun intended).

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:59 AM

39. free cheesy bread and, ...

...douche bag included with every order. Enjoy, obese southerners!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:02 AM

40. My Papa Johns Boycott continues

And I was a Pizza a week customer. (Papa Murphy's now thanks you)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:06 AM

43. And I shall not only reduce, but end, my purchase of his products.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:07 AM

44. Business people who feel this way ought to organize

in support of single-payer, government sponsored health care. That sort of system would save American workers and their bosses lots of money and relieve employers of having to deal with private health insurers to provide health care coverage for their workers.
It would also make them favorites among customers, a great PR move.
It amazes me how many people with more than enough are willing to take from those who can't afford to give, in order to protect wealth they don't need. Scrooges.
So much wealth, power and influence and Mr. Schnatter uses it to punish his already low paid workers, by reducing their hours, so he can avoid providing health coverage. He is proud of how rich he's become at the expense of his employees. He believes he made that money.
Like in the film, A Day Without Mexicans, a day without workers would serve Schnatter right (and many days without a customer). He would not be able to function (and wouldn't "make" a penny) without the workers, to whom he is so dismissive.
I hope President Obama promotes and ultimately signs some real socialist legislation that would bring our economy and society into the 21st century. That is what this jerk, and others like him, deserve (and so do the rest of us).
Its time we dump the Plantation Capitalism model and recognize that the value of a business is equal to the value of the labor. What is called profit represents how much the workers are underpaid for their work. If the boss is actually involved in production or marketing of the product then he deserves a cut of the value, otherwise he is a leach.
The laws of the market-place are not divine or natural laws, that justify huge profits for the few at the expense of the many, they are the result of political policy decisions.
The rich can live, and still be rich, with policy decisions that require them to help support the government and people who made them rich.
They act as if paying a few percentage points more in taxes will be their death. How melodramatic!
They should be paying much more than that. I'd vote for a return to the tax structure of the World War II Era (we do have wars to pay for after all) when the top tax rate was between 88% and 91%.
America's debt is the result of the top earners not paying their share of our country's bills. Rather than borrowing another cent from foreign governments we ought to ask our own rich to pay the bills. After all, we, the workers and the government, all toil for the wealth of our nation, which can be found in the bank accounts of the rich.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:31 AM

122. Excellent! I love your term: Plantation Capitalism...exactly! nt

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Response to snappyturtle (Reply #122)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:08 AM

198. Thanks, I've been using it for a while now but it hasn't seemed to catch on.

Of course, it would be silly to expect the media to repeat such a negative label but I think it is both accurate and easy to remember.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:10 AM

47. Thanks for helping out American CITIZENS, you

asshole.

Let ALL of America see you for what you and your ilk are...VULTURES...picking at the bones of the workers of America.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:11 AM

48. And I have reduced my consumption of PJ's pizza.

To zero. No loss.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:12 AM

49. I Ordered A Papa John's Pizza Today

Their pizzas are ok. Their CEO is a right wing nut job. I think I will order pizzas for my crew somewhere else from now on.

Sorry Charlie.....

I bet his health insurance won't be affected. The Gold Carpet Policy I suspect.

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Response to StevePaulson (Reply #49)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:18 AM

55. Round Table Pizza, if you have one in your area, is employee owned.

Most every other chain is owned by RWNJs, like Dominos. I'm fortunate to have a kick ass local place in town now, plus a Round Table, so I'm set. I really hated the PJs pizza the time we tried it. Like elementary school lunchroom pizza... so bland.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:12 AM

50. I hate their shitty pizza anyway. God forbid that sack of shit absorbs any of the costs himself.

Fuck him and the other angry rich asshole men who are doing this right now. I hope he falls in a vat of cheap sauce and he doesn't have enough staff anymore to hear him cry for help.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:17 AM

54. Bad example

 

Sadly this will be happening. Several other companies already claim they will be doing the same thing. For most business its all about money.

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Response to Batt1eRatt1e (Reply #54)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:13 AM

148. Many companies already restrict worker hours to avoid paying benefits

I wonder how much of the noise we're hearing like this comes from companies that just want to tantrum to make a point while already avoiding paying for health care or other benefits by restricting hours in the pre-Obamacare days. Maybe they are angry over all the money they sunk into Romney's campaign and have to kick and scream because they will lose some of the profit margin they enjoyed.

John (he loves it when you call him Big Papa) might not have been able to build such a huge house if he'd had to provide benefits to his employees. He might not have been able to expand into the overseas markets (such as Great Britain, who has socialized medicine) if he'd had to provide his American worker benefits. But I doubt that it would've impacted him much.

I weep for him and feel very deeply sorry for what must seem like impossible living conditions now.



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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:22 AM

57. Ahem....

Dick........









Wait for it.








....Head

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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:26 AM

59. God, let a boycott.....

......against this evil man be successful. Yet one more reason for Universal Health care!
This meme of employers exacting revenge against their employees is building folks.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:30 AM

61. Papa John

Hire a labor law Atty and sue for wrongful discharge and a violation of your civil rights. There should be a collective boycott of the business.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:32 AM

62. Anything to prevent them from going to a doctor...

I'm sure the CEO doesn't want to look like a heartless prick, he's just bad at it.

These employees barely eke out a living on a lousy 30 hours a week as it is, but heaven fucking forbid they may get government grade health care. Now he'll shift the cost to the tax payers to cover his workers.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:34 AM

64. How Smart Is This Moneywise?

By cutting back people's hours means some employees will go elsewhere where they can get the hours they want. It also means these companies will need to hire more workers to fill in the hours being cut from current staff. It also complicates staffing because they have more workers to juggle for the hours worked. I think what they are doing could cost more than the savings on insurance costs. I wonder if they have done a study on this or if they are just doing this because Obama will raise their income taxes to where they might be paying the same rate as you and me.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #64)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:37 AM

69. All to avoid a lousy .14 increase in the price of pizza that most people are perfectly willing to

pay for a product of acceptable quality.

Perhaps that's the problem; the quality is low.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:35 AM

65. A normal person would be ashamed and embarrased to be so petty and vindictive. nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:36 AM

67. Hey godless selfish evil fascist you are what I call a maggot.

Your company goes to Europe, you have to provide insurance. Your company goes to Canada you have to provide insurance. But in the land of the free, you said go fuck yourselves! Why do you even exist in this country where you hate the people? Do you care about anyone outside your family unit or are they just tax deductions? Pizza is easy to make, use to be low cost to produce and you sit there making lots of money and have great health insurance and you tell your (ex)workers like me you are on your own. Obamacare is still 14 months away from being implemented but you have yours and I guest that is all right in your good book. I long for the day when maggots like you are destroyed and not allowed to rise again, I long for the day when workers get paid for doing the work instead of getting shafted from broke dicks like you, I long for the day brothers and sisters when the scum of the earth are finally skimmed off the top and burned to a crispy crunch. That will be a day I will rejoice with a party that the world will remember, not for me but for you, the worker.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:37 AM

68. People should stop doing business with his Co.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:46 AM

71. God bless the NE - no need for chain pizza

I've never ordered chain pizza when I'm the decision maker. Local local local. (I do understand that some parts of the country are deficient in family-owned pizza joints)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:47 AM

72. It's horrible pizza, anyway!

BOYCOTT!

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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:47 AM

73. Fuck him and his crappy pizza!

May he go broke!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:52 AM

75. I guess I have another reason NOT to buy Papa Johns Pizza

Plus I like Pizza Hut better.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:54 AM

76. Has He Ever Heard of Backlash ?

Maybe his stock will sink and then he may like to have thought twice about his political maneuver.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:03 AM

78. You revolting garbage.

Fuck you.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:08 AM

79. Someone please explain.. Exactly how is he getting screwed? What about tax breaks? N?T

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:09 AM

80. Weird how all the CEOs and Owners doing this are

self proclaimed republicans who even gave money to the romney campaign and other races as well..

oh wait, no its not. they are cheap lying assholes who whine like little babys when they dont get their way. prepare for the temper tantrums and feet stomping.. after all, they did promise it before hand. lol.



oh, and on a side note... i think their pizza is TERRIBLE. ive never liked it, even before i found out the owners wing nutter tendencies..
gross stuff.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:10 AM

81. food industry

should be staffed by healthy workers. I think this is scary and should be treated as a threat to the health of the customers. How about a little HEP C with that pizza?

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #81)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:52 AM

136. I think you are on to something there. Shouldn't the public *demand* that food handlers be as

healthy as possible? Businesses that do not think health benefits for its employees are a priority are far more likely to have workers show up to work sick and contagious, I would think. In other words, think twice about ordering Papa John's...that green thing on your pizza may not be a sliced pepper.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:11 AM

83. Be sure...

...to boycot his newest franchise holder too...Peyton Manning. How about chants of 'Pizza Man...Pizza Man...Pozza Man....I mean not buying the sorry a-hole's products goes without saying.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:13 AM

84. He's going to fire workers and shrink his business because of a $0.14 price increase on and $8 pizza


Two things. One it's a public company and not his business. He doesn't get to make decisions based on his own low brow political prejudice. He is accountable to shareholders.

Two, if I was a shareholder I would be asking for his resignation for shrinking the business when he is under a legal obligation to increase business and hence return to the investor.

FReeperville has posted dozens of these business owners revenge against the election stories starting yesterday. One after another filling up the whole front page of that silly socalled website. The RW is doubling down on stupid.

Schnatter is going to find out that America can survive quite nicely without another pizza franchise using minimum wage (if that) labor to sell a shitty product to customers, most of whom are low wage working people. Working people he has made quite clear, he hates.

If you hate your employees AND your customers you will FAIL.

No boycott will be necessary.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:19 AM

86. This is what I wrote to that sorry son of a bitch...

This is what I wrote:
I WAS a customer. No MORE because I learned that you are cutting hours of your employees BECAUSE OF THE HEALTHCARE INTITIATIVE!?!! I have a small business and I know that WITHOUT MY EMPLOYEES, I HAVE NO BUSINESS! Apparently, you've forgotten that. You don't realise what kind of fire you've ignited by hurting your employees to try to make a fucked up political point. . What kind of
American are you? We on the left NEVER TREATED people like so many on the EXTREME right have when Bush fucked up this country's economy so badly that it was was just this side of a DEPRESSION!! NEVER, EVER again will I buy so much as a single piece of pepperoni from you....EVER and I can assure you that you can laugh at my email, "THINIKING" that I am just one person who will have no impact but I promise you that I am one os thousands, soon to be millions who will NOT buy anything from companies like yours who place a anti American dogma above HARD WORKING AMERICANS FOR A LIE!! If you hate Obama because of his colour, his political leanings- that's your perogative but IT IS NOT your perogative to hurt those who are struggling and have the least amongst us. I will post this to my social networks and spread it far and wide.. that is my solemn promise. Laugh if youwant to, you won't be laughing for long...TRUST ME

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:28 AM

87. And the solution to this is ....

universal health care. Too bad Cain was against it or he could have kept his good employees. Now he will be forced to hire more employees at part time to keep his crappy business going and his part time employees that need full time work will be forced to apply for a second job at another company where they may eventually get full time employment. Papa Johns loses either way.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:29 AM

88. This is the start of RW companies creating fake problems so they can blame them on Obama.

I'll bet we'll hear all kinds of fake complaints and invented repercussions to Obamacare.

They'll try to make it seem that it's such a disastrous policy that people will demand the government to eliminate it.

Like everything the RW does nowadays, it's a lie made up to manipulate the public.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:43 AM

91. NASTY PIZZA

I WILL NEVER BUY THEIR PIZZA AGAIN. NO LOSS ANYWAY

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:53 AM

92. Capitalism: privatized profits, socialized costs.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:01 AM

93. I stopped buying his pizza months ago when I heard he was a Romney supporter

Screw you Pappa John.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:08 AM

96. Papa John Snotter: Encouraging us to...

1. Eat no more mediocre pizza.
2. Lose weight.
3. Save money.

Thanks, Papa

Peyton Manning: Lose this creep, right now.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:08 AM

97. Their pizza sucks...but I am calling all of the PJ pizza places in my area...


...and telling then that in response to this, my pals and I are all boycotting their business.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:27 AM

101. Schnatter's net worth is

estimated between $240 and $300 million he is worth more than Mitt. It's the cost of doing business, instead of being like Wal Mart and passing on their responsibilities to Medicaid.. With time, they will get used to it .

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:35 AM

103. Douche bag asshole.

 

And let's be honest... the pizza they make isn't that good.

Luckily enough, I live in Chicago and my choices for pizza are endless.

Just more proof as to how greed makes the wealthy cheap.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:37 AM

104. Dear John, you're a douchebag

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:37 AM

105. They already do that

Have for a long time. Nothing new here.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:39 AM

106. So, are we supposed to believe that all of these rich assholes were paying people they didn't need?

This whole thing sounds like horseshit to me.

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Response to 6000eliot (Reply #106)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:43 AM

133. It's all BS

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:40 AM

108. Sent them email since they are cutting back employees hours,

I will not be buying their pizza. (Not that I ever eat their pizza anyways!!)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:45 AM

109. It will reduce unemployment

As they hire more part-timers to make up the hours.


And, of course, part-timers that have to work two part time jobs will inevitably have scheduling problems that affect their work attendence, and thus the ability of the company to keep companies happy.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #109)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:58 AM

111. That is a silver lining, I guess. /nt

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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:22 AM

114. With a man.....

...taking such a ''principled fiscally conservative stand'' like this and all, well I'm sure that he'll soon be shutting down all of his 3,300 international pizza parlors, in 30 countries, many of which are in Europe with their socialist healthcare requirements, WHICH HE HAS TO PAY IF HE WANTS TO DO BUSINESS IN THOSE COUNTRIES.

Of course, he doesn't seem to mind paying for healthcare in other countries. Or making profits there. So the only conclusion I can draw is that he's saying foreign employees are better and that they're worth the cost.

But he warned us quite clearly that Obamacare needed repealin', or else we'd make him lay people off, or cut their hours and charge people 11 to 14 cents more for their obesity-inducing pizzas from his greasy little pizza parlors. The greasy pizza parlors he's got spread out over 30-some countries where he pays healthcare for foreigners.

Why, just look at what you all have done to this country he loves so much! Loves, but not enough to willingly support his employees' right to affordable healthcare. And you know he doesn't want to do any of that, right? We're forcing him to do this. Why he just LURVES his cuntry, somethin' fierce!!!

- So why don't we all get up from our desks, chairs, tables and laptop positions, and give this man the standing keyboard salute that he so richly deserves......



K&R

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #114)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:26 AM

120. Great post. Expose the hypocrisy. nt

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #114)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:01 AM

141. I'd love to

give this man a big, big hand. Unfortunately, because of budget constraints I can only spare one finger.

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #114)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:08 AM

182. good post (nt)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:25 AM

116. Fuck him and his camaro and his cardboard pizza

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:09 AM

117. His pizza is dead to me now

Too bad, because the company was getting me into the habit of ordering online a couple times a week with their various discounts. My cholesterol numbers will decrease and my heart will thank "Papa" John for his announcing his plans. Yep, he wouldn't want to cut into his peen car budget to provide a little something for his employees.

The good news for me is that there is a place in town that makes real pizza without the assembly line you see at Papa John's. The owner has a few restaurants and seems to have a good number of employees. His pizza would be worth even a dollar more per pie to me. I'll still be sinking my hard-earned $ into the economy, so there's no loss from that. Just won't be sinking it into Papa Peencar's greedy pocket.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:25 AM

119. Have Been Boycotting For Months

I too stopped eating his pizza when he threw the fundraiser for Robme at his aforementioned mansion within the past 6 months. It was there that Robme famously said that Democrats don't think anyone should live like that while Republicans think everyone should live like that. Pizza Dick has a fucking golf course on his property. Everyone should have a fucking a private golf course. How do the people who tend to Pizza Dick's land (and pool and house) live? Do they have their own golf courses? Fucking morons.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:42 AM

124. didnt romney gush about what a glorious mansion papa john has

And how he couldnt believe such abundant wealth came from pizza?
It doesnt.come from pizza, you arrogrant prick. It comes from the e,ploited workers making minimum wage & being screwed out of healthcare by someone who couldnt spend alk of him.money if he lived to 500. What is wrong with these people?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:06 AM

125. I hope this strategy backfires

on all these CEOs get a mass exodus of employees.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:09 AM

126. Another reason to not buy bad pizza. Buy local instead.

Fuck Papa and his shitty pizzas.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:13 AM

127. County Line BBQ and now Papa Johns. Mark them off the list, they are dead to me.

K&R

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:13 AM

128. It'll make universal healthcare that much more

imperative. Getting healthcare shouldn't depend on who your employer is.

And Johnny can choke on the extra pizza lying around.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:15 AM

129. Just another....

crud. I don't eat take-out pizza and not Papa John's for sure. May a thousand flies find his sauce.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:38 AM

132. Who would want those handeling their food to have healthcare?

I love it when my chef and waiter have colds and strep throat!

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Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #132)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:03 AM

164. Thank you n/t

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:46 AM

134. All hail the holy job creators!

Job creators my ass. Now that the election is over and they've lost, the mask is coming off and they're showing their true colors. Did anyone really believe that they saw the creation of jobs as the reason for their existence?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:46 AM

135. Ok fine. What should be done to these CEOs is to list them and then include a photo of their homes

exactly the same as what is going on in this thread with the photo of Schattner's home.

Shame the hell out of them for being greedy assholes. These aren't job creators, they are greedy corporatists.

So far we have:

Darden restaurants - Clarence Otis, Jr.(?)
Papa John - John Schattner
Murry Energy - Robert Murry

Add to the list, get some photos of their domociles, list them somewhere on line or someone make a youtube, let it go viral.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #135)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:17 AM

149. Clarence Otis, Jr., CEO of Darden Restaurants lives here. Whines he'll have to help waiters,.

waitresses, bus boys, dishwashers, cooks get healthcare. Lives like this:



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Response to nc4bo (Reply #149)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:50 AM

159. Darden-- major Rush advertiser

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:54 AM

137. Papa doesn't deserve the name "Papa". He takes care of his needs,

but abandons those of his employees and customers. His best employees will move to companies that care about them. "Papa's" Pizza continues its swirling toilet spiral.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:00 AM

139. This is a publicity gimmick. They started a fake controversy in Cleveland about Lebron James

To get some free publicity a few years ago.

Starch and cheese is not a great meal, btw.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #139)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:56 PM

235. Fake or not, it's polarizing, and not smart business at all. nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:01 AM

140. It's SH** pizza anyway. One can just get a frozen pizza out of the local

grocery store, heat it up, it's far better and way cheaper. Schmucks like this guy are obsolete and need to go back under their bridge. Also, a Subway sandwich tastes far better IMO and is more healthy ...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:02 AM

142. And the answer is:

a tight labor market where lousy jobs that pay minimum wage and offer less than 30 hours a week with no benefits, become very difficult to fill and keep filled with anyone capable of doing the job. I worked a number of lousy food service jobs putting myself through college. Bottom line, in a better economy, employers like this can go into a tailspin, because as soon as someone gets experience, they bail for the next employer across town who offers a bit more money and better benefits.

This means the business is constantly training new workers, quality and customer service declines, both because the workforce knows less on average about what they are doing, and because they see what they are doing as a crap job they are only taking until they can find something better.

What they are proposing is really bad management, both in theory and in practice. Of course there is alot of really bad management in the food service business.

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Response to quaker bill (Reply #142)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:32 AM

201. i doubt this knuckledragger cares

some of these so called american ceos threatened, coerced their employees to vote for romney or else. they treat the plebes like they "own" them; and since they didn't do what the mastahs wanted, they're going to punish them.

and the plebes are more damned if they voted for their greedy, sociopath and less damned if they voted for someone who's going to represent them. make no mistake, the ones who think they really own this country are not happy the slaves didn't do their bidding.

we need more people to pool what little money we have left, after some at the top have almost milked us dry, and start our own cooperative businesses. because some of these corporations, some who are more global than american, want the power over the people.

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Response to newspeak (Reply #201)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:20 PM

219. What they care about is making money

Sooner or later, if you treat your employees as dispensable, they will treat your business and customers the same way. I have been there (as a dispensable one), employee morale is in the gutter, and the customer can eventually figure this out.

I took one such job once out of a personal financial crisis, literally the first thing I could find, I just went from one restaurant to another all day until I found it. I landed the job at 1:00 pm and showed up for my first shift at 4:00 pm. Got dinner at 6:30 and went to the breakroom, and there every single employee there was comparing notes on where they applied to find a different job. I was pretty sure I was in for a rough ride, and I was. I left the first moment I could find better paid work.

It was a horrible place to work the food was uninspired and the service was poor. Most of the poorly managed places like this that I ever worked in went broke and closed long ago.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:04 AM

143. I'm not boycotting Papa John's pizza

I'm just spending my dollars where I believe I can get a better value without the threat of some sneezing on my food because the company they work for is too cheap to give them proper health care.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:08 AM

144. SEND FEEDBACK

Be sure to send them feedback that you are not a customer anymore. I did. I hope they look up my account and see what they lost.

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Response to Disaac (Reply #144)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:54 AM

163. Welcome to DU! His actions are despicable.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:12 AM

147. Note to self, don't eat at chain restaurants.

Oh wait, I never really did.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:17 AM

150. These CEO's are not being very business savvy.

I mean, think about it. Actions like ole Pappy John's are going to piss off people who voted for Obama.

The majority of people in America voted for Obama.

Is it really a smart business decision to throw a public tantrum like this?

And oh by the way, he can just sell the Pontiac Firebird that he spent thousands of dollars looking for. The one he had when he was younger, then sold it, and wanted it back when he became a millionaire. Surely someone's job and/or healthcare is more important than a car.

While he's at it, he can take a pay cut himself.

He's a complete jerk!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:18 AM

151. Silver lining, such as it is: higher employment

If he turns 40 hour workers into 30 hour workers, he's going to have to hire some unemployed people to make up the difference.

Say a store needs 400 man-hours of coverage per week, and they currently hire ten people at 40 hours each. At 30 hours each, they will need to employ 13 people, albeit each for fewer hours.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:18 AM

152. Great marketing idea John.

Piss off!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:19 AM

153. Looks like class warfare to me

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:26 AM

154. What a great marketing technique, John

I'm sure your sales will increase drastically because, as we all know, only Republicans eat pizza.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:31 AM

155. I can reduce my spending too Papa Johns !

As in, I won't EVER spend my hard earned money with your pizza ever again ! Besides, I can get a damn good pizza on base where I work at and not worry about your sorry ass

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:38 AM

156. What a bunch of lies

First of all the majority of workers in the fast food industry, and retail and supermarkets, don't work full time anyway. They are PART-TIMERS so the chains don't have to pay them BENEFITS. It has been like this for DECADES, since Obama was still a little kid.

My daughter works LP in retail and supermarkets and is considered "management" and therefore is full time and gets benefits. All the clerks and cashiers are PART-TIMERS w/o benefits. In 2007, before Obama and the ACA, she worked at a retail chain (Beall's) in Florida. They sent around slips cutting the few full time employees (including her "management" position) hours to part-time. "We cannot afford to pay HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. Obamacare? It wasn't in effect in 2007. They are CHEAP and don't give a damn about their employees.

Did the Naples News report this back in 2007 BEFORE Obamacare? Of course NOT, because they didn't want to. All they want to do is blast the President. Naples is a very, very RED area of Florida.



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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:39 AM

157. He can afford to be one of Romney's biggest donors but balk at paying for health insurance?

He gives away a crapload of money to another rich guy, Romney, who could've used his own money for his campaign, but wants to stiff his workers on health care benefits? Slime.

Well, it's his money to throw where he wants. I won't be throwing any of mine his way anymore.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/08/1117876/-Vote-for-Romney-or-we-ll-raise-our-prices


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:51 AM

162. Here's my letter

I sent "Papa" some feed back. Here it is...

This is to CEO Papa John...I am ASHAMED of you. I am a Louisville girl (though not a "girl" anymore). I am always so proud of Louisville because it is one of the most tolerant and friendly places I have ever been. However, Papa John, you have just brought your intolerance to the national forefront. You are cutting your employees hours because you don't like the HRA? First of all, this isn't a new trick that you thought of all by yourself, people with plenty of money and minimum wage employees have been doing this for years. How much money is enough? Do you care about anyone other than yourself? So you don't like "Obamacare". Is it that. or is it just that you don't like our black president? Is it that you don't want the "peons" to have healthcare because they aren't really important to you? You should live where I live...a very RED county in a very RED state, you would be a hero...they might even give you a parade. In fact, we could trade, I could move back to the town I love and you could live in Redland. We would both be happy.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:04 AM

165. It's boycott time, folks. No loss- shitty sugar-flavored pizza.

nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:13 AM

167. The wingnuts are out in full force now.

These elitists are going to destroy people's livelihoods just to save a few measly bucks. Fucking disgraceful. In response to this, how about raising the minimum wage? Its low enough as it is.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:31 AM

169. I called "The Olive Garden"

last week after reading an article about them. I asked to speak to the manager, I didn't have long to wait and it was during their busy lunch hour. I've been eating lunch at the olive garden 2 to 3 times a month with my "lunch friends" for ever. We always go dutch & our bill always comes out to $50 to $60 + tip. In my conversation to the manager, I was calm and respectful, but let him know how often I frequented their restaurant and that I would be boycotting them until their hiring & employment policy changed. I also told him that I would be passing this information on to my family & friends. I asked him to pass this conversation on to Olive Garden's headquarters, which he agreed to do, and he also said that I was the only phone call he'd received regarding this issue.

I think writing to these 2 restaurants is a good idea, but I also think that giving the managers an "ear full" will have a big impact.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:32 AM

170. I went to the customer complaint section

and voiced my opinion.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:42 AM

173. For those who Facebook

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Response to Loki (Reply #173)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:56 AM

177. That, also felt good to let 'er rip. Selfish bastard and those like him who don't want to do the

right thing for those whose hard work made him (and others like him) successful.

No, you didn't build that all by yourself Mr. Schnatter!

I fully expect my post to disappear before the day is over but if just 1 person sees it and understands it OR forces them to think outside their little box, then it'd have been a success.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #177)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:07 AM

254. Great picture making the rounds one Facebook

Shows Schnatter's castle, with text about how he's going to cut his worker's hours. Thanks Occupy Marines! And others, I'm sure

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:50 AM

175. Cheap bastard

Their cost to implement health care would be to increase their prices to 25 cents per pizza. Now if you can not spend 25 cents on your employees then you are cheap and stupid. All it takes is to raise your prices by 25 cents.
When other minimum wage jobs offer health care, then people are going to go work for them. Pappa Johns and others like them will find it harder to hire people.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:52 AM

176. Chain 'pizza' sucks. Too many good independents out there to eat it.

The only time I have any is in a work meeting where I have no choice.

I usually push for sandwiches, over chain crap 'pizza.'

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:59 AM

178. Number 1, most of the stores are Franchise, and operate under a manager or 2 and

lot's of part-time workers (kids mostly) anyway... so its not the stores that would have the same type of outlines; its actually his corporate headquarters, people he probably pays decently anyway and have benefit packages to boot. He's just an asshole.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:02 AM

179. I crossed Papa John off my list already

When he said he'd jack up the price of his pizza because of Obamacare.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:10 AM

183. Don't forget he is an official NFL Sponsor

Made a comment on the NFL website and it really feels good.

http://www.nfl.com/contact-us

Dear NFL: This is not a negative comment about the NFL, but a comment about an Official Sponsor of the NFL Papa's Pizza. The CEO John Schnatter has decided to punish his employees by reducing their working hours because of the Affordable Care Act passed by the Obama Administration and now President Obama's re-election. To promote profits over people is not what the American people believe in nor is it what we have voted for. To allow a company to obviously profit from the NFL exposure with this kind of corporate ideology should not be rewarded, nor tolerated. I will be watching with interest as we all should. Will corporations support their employees and their country, or will they chose profit. They are not mutually exclusive and we the people will support those who do both.

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Response to Loki (Reply #183)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:36 AM

196. Payton Manning is a cheap dick also

I know someone who worked an event he was at and he tried to skip out on the tab by going to his hotel room. When confronted he paid but left no tip. It was a 2k bill. F him ,Shatter, Elway and the Broncos .

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:18 AM

184. That will be the last time I order Papa John's. Wasn't very good anyway.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:49 AM

187. Boycott this right wing POS!

I will NEVER buy another f'n pizza from this damn teabagger again!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:56 AM

188. Fuck you and your pizza dude! Bye bye now.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:05 AM

191. Better than a boycott is to make sure the employees have the information about John Schnatter's

Better than a boycott is to make sure the employees have the information about John Schnatter's house and employee treatment policies.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:06 AM

192. What this effectively means is that

the Papa John's employees who are reduced to under 30 hours and don't get employer sponsored health insurance will be eligible for government subsidies to purchase their own coverage or under expanded Medicaid. Taxpayers will be effectively subsidizing Papa John's for their operations thrugh Obamacare. It might work out better for some employees this way, though probably not in states that refused the Medicaid expansion money.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:10 AM

193. Here's my response:


Thank you, Papa. You have made it easy for me to save some money in my family budget. You have provided real leadership in painful economic times by vindictively firing employees in response to the reelection of our president, Barack Obama. My response is to never again be a customer of your chain. Never again will I order Papa John's pizza for our family on Wednesday nights, or any other night for that matter.

I salute you in helping me to balance my family finances. I hear the local pizza parlor on the corner makes better pizza than Papa does. And they have just hired on new employees last week! Once our family finances recover, I'm looking forward to sampling their offerings.



Perhaps a waste of irony...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:31 AM

194. Kind of guy that would send jobs to China if he could. Screw him.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:58 AM

197. Isn't this the company Payten Manning advertises for?

I sent in my complaint as well. If they can afford to hire Payten then can afford to take care of their employees. I think their pizza sucks but my g-daughters always liked it.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:19 AM

199. This is why I hate corporations (and capitalism in general).

They treat their employees almost universally like shit.

And this is another good argument for unions.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:26 AM

200. What a dick. I'll never order from them again.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:34 AM

202. Last PJ pizza I had was when they first started out...

and it was nasty, so I've never ordered again. But, I did try to leave my comment, and unless there's something wrong with my computer, it's not allowing me to type in a comment...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:50 AM

204. This idiot is proof that the RW notion of humans as rational economic actors is BS.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:55 AM

205. this evil idiot

sponsored one of mittshits money raisers at his mansion. Who in the hell doesn't see the politics behind this move. This obvious intent of making ACA look like something bad for our country just lets me know that these type of people care nothing about other human being, just about the bottom line. With all the cars I see delivering food from this company, he's making enough to cover his expenses until all this shakes out. American politics have been poisoned so badly by the extreme right wing racists that I really fear.....and fear generates???

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:02 PM

207. He played golf with my pompous brother in law, that made sure I'd never buy a pizza from him.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:41 PM

208. use this!!!!!!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:41 PM

209. The Papa John's next to me apparently can't afford to fix or run the AC, even in the summer when

it's 110F+ outside, lol. They've tortured their employees with that for YEARS. And they have always been prone to running out of soda and having nothing but one kind for a week or more. This year they cut back to virtually no pepperoni when You ask for it (one or two paper thin slices per piece of pizza, lol).

Their financial problems date back to long before Obamacare or this election.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:43 PM

210. He is really screwing his franchisees

I'm going to have a talk with the owner of the PJ near my house.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:00 PM

212. Read between the lines:

We value our employees so little that we will do anything to benefit ourselves, even continuing to promote a literal slave class of Americans.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #212)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:05 PM

213. Right on. That is the CEO's message loud and clear, received and no PJ pizza for us.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:13 PM

214. Two emails from this house on Monday. I am willing to bet this douche retracts his statement.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:23 PM

215. Corporate Food

improves their products by substituting cheaper ingredients.

It's what they learn in MBA school.

I learned to cook at home. It's the best food that can be made.

If I have to eat out, I go to family eateries, small places.

We get fewer strip malls that way.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:48 PM

216. If Pappa John's were the only pizza choice in town, I'd do Mexican over give him my $$! nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:01 PM

217. PAPA JOHN'S JUST CALLED US

we sent them a complaint on the link we got here--and a lady called and left a message. She said corporate had got their message, reviewed it and sent it to her--she works in OR and WA. She said that in OR and WA the stores are franchised and the NW group of franchisees were not following corporate stores in this and would not be cutting hours in these two states.

Not sure if we believe her...she works for them, after all, but I was surprised to have a phone call back the same morning that we called them.

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Response to DonRedwood (Reply #217)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:22 AM

257. Sounds like they're feeling some heat from this.

Good -- may they feel much more.

I got a same-day email back, but some of what they said in it seemed disingenuous. Here's their response email and my reply to it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014298882#post255

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:01 PM

218. All of the local/family owned pizza places appreciate this John.

Because that's where my money is going from now on. Put that in your fucking pizza, you asshat.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:00 PM

222. Why do CEOs become partisan assholes like this? His business will flail because of this.

Especially something so easy to choose like pizza.

Not like he's an oil man or healthcare CEO. This guys an idiot.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:47 PM

226. Applebee's is pulling the same crap..

The answer is simple , boycott them.. Let them know, you 'll be going down the street to the Mom and Pop stores, where any profits made by the owner's stay in the community. Besides, the Food is almost always better , actually home cooked at the Mom and Pops.. And you won't be having their restaurant workers screwed over by lousy management and the profits going to the billionaires.

http://www.nationofchange.org/applebee-s-ceo-threatens-fire-employees-and-freeze-hiring-because-obamacare-1352561078

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #226)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:22 PM

233. We go to Chili's instead of Applebee's.

 

Their food is crap.

Chilis' is far better pile of crap.

We patronize Marco's Pizza (chain), but we do like to go to Northwest Denver and go to Carl's - a longtime family favorite pizza place.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:06 PM

227. Yes, of course the cost gets passed on. And???

It's a question of what kind of society we want.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:11 PM

228. His pizza chain is doomed to the same fate as ........

Chic-Fil-A. Both are going be frequented less and less by progressives and start losing franchises. Papa did not show good business sense here.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:29 PM

229. Has anybody asked Peyton Manning about this?

Peyton Manning should refuse to do any more ads for this asshole. It is the common person that makes Peyton Manning rich. He should take a stand on this.

In Indianapolis, Peyton has a children's hospital named after him. He should not be seen as anti-health care. He doesn't need another $50,000 in advertising royalties from this asshole.

How can we get to manning to ask him to take a stand?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:05 PM

230. If he would stop selling cardboard for crust, he could keep a lot of

customers out of the emergency room--and reduce healthcare costs. Problem solved.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:10 PM

231. Uh oh! Better raise that delivery fee again,

so you can continue to pretend your pizzas cost $9.99 instead of $13.

(Meanwhile, drivers suffer because too many people don't realize that the "delivery" fee goes to the company, not the employee.)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:16 PM

232. ???

How many of his employees currently work 30+ hours/week? I bet not that many.

Schnatter is a blowhard who loves attention.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:33 PM

234. I spoke to a friend who is an partner in a local chain restaurant...

..and he echoed the same thing, that the management has decided to make everyone part time to avoid the mandatory rule that they provide a health insurance option to their full time employees.

These are not nice people imo. Talk about having their priorities all wrong..

As a customer of Papa Johns I'd GLADLY pay more for my food and beverages IF they treated their restaurant workers better, and made sure them that qualified had a health insurance program.


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:46 PM

236. go check out the comments on his facebook page

And John, go shove that '72 Camaro up your ass.........

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:54 PM

237. I sure can live without any of those companies and their crappy food. Boycott the greedy SOBs.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:12 PM

240. Done....

I will no longer order from them.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:19 PM

241. I heard a new term today: "Bosshole" he fits it fine.

Creep.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:34 PM

243. I received a call after sending a complaint.

I wasn't able to answer my phone, but got a lengthy message from a very nice gentlemen. He said that he is the CEO in Albuquerque and he owns all of the stores in this area as franchises and that he had no plans to lay anyone off. In fact, he said his businesses is doing so well, he is hiring more people. I'm not sure who this CEO Schnatter is planning on laying off, since he doesn't speak for ALL Papa John's stores.

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Response to vduhr (Reply #243)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:46 AM

249. Very interesting...

Quite often these large corporations in the food industry have several franchises that are owned by individuals and not the corporation itself. I wonder if he is facing backlash from owners of franchises? They bill this chain on some small pizza shop he opened in Kentucky I believe like it still exists as a small business when in fact it is a huge corporation where there are several owners that have purchased franchises making his wallet larger. I would be pissed as an owner if I am loosing business because of his political issues.

Let's hope that this individual in Albuquerque is honest and not just giving bullshit to calm things down.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:58 AM

244. Yesterday, I sent in a complaint to PaPa John's website,

and the local Papa John Franchise just sent me an email telling me he has nothing to do with what Mr. Schnatter says or does. The local franchise mentioned he tries to run his store like a family business.
I am sure franchises all over the country will have some words with Mr CEO Schnatter!

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Response to mary195149 (Reply #244)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:25 AM

258. I got such an email, too, but...

...some of what was in the email and some of what I then looked up made me doubt its we're-locally-owned-and-not-part-of-corporate claims. Here's what I received, and my reply to it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014298882#post255

Regardless, it seems they're feeling some heat from this. Good.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:00 AM

245. I make my own pizza (have done since Domino's boycott days)

I have pizza in 30 minutes or less, making it myself.
I get a generic-brand crust mix ... just add water.
Press it onto a pizza pan, spoon some tomato paste on it (I get it in bulk from Costco).
Sprinkle on some generic-brand mozzarella.
Shake on some pizza seasoning or Italian seasoning blend.
Cut up some veggies quick, and drain some crushed pineapple -- & stick that on the crust.
Bake it for about 12-15 mins.
Easy peasy ... and cheap!
Or, I keep a $1 Mama Celeste cheese pizza in the freezer, and I throw on my own toppings before I bake it.
Screw Papa John's.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:45 AM

247. Add my family to the list of people

who will not buy from PaPa Johns. When we go for pizza we shop the locally owned pizza business

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:49 AM

248. Dude needs to worry about pizza first...

If your pizza is good, stores clean and staff friendly you are successful...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:31 AM

251. Any company unable to pay employees enough to live on isn't viable anyway.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:34 AM

252. My dad, who is a small business accountant,

has always said if you want to make money in the restaurant business, sell round food (pizza, pancakes, etc). They tend to cost the least to produce and have the highest profit margins. The clients that my dad represents are truly small business with only one, many two restaurants. John Schnatter is a greedy bastard who doesn't give a shit about his employees or the quality of his product. Period.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:15 AM

256. Republican employees of papa johns will also lose their jobs,even if they voted for Romney!

Nothing like a little friendly fire.....now we all can't go on so now john will dole out the coolaid.

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