Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA): Evolution, Big Bang ‘Lies Straight From The Pit Of Hell’

How the hell did that guy get on the science committee if he's that much of a dumb ass?

Broun is an MD, which makes this even more astounding. How the hell did he pass General Biology, let alone get into med school?

Also, how the hell did the district that has the state's "flagship" university (UGa) let this lunatic represent them in Congress?

It just teaches you to be a doctor.

Don't make such an idiotic pronouncement unless you know what you're talking about. Please explain the difference between being taught and being educated.

Would you say that medico from Georgia comes anywhere close? I'm not an MSU grad or a Dr. This was simply the 1st thing Google turned up. I like it.

I know an uber-Christian doctor, and from what I understand, he's a good one (although he would have to be the last one in the state of Texas before I would consult him), but in typical wingnut fashion, is abysmally ignorant. He's also a hypocrite. He'll dump all over anyone who collects publicly funded assistance, but eagerly accepts medicare as payment for his services.

Takes medicare but rants about "Obamacare" and "socialized medicine" and Obama destroying the country.
She is one of the too few women docs in this area.
Pretty good diagnostician, which is all I want from a doc.

I know he's a '"Christian" from the way he treats his patients. (Don't know his actual religion)

He also donates generously to Obama. This I know for a fact.

Evolution is taught in basic Biology.

if Dr. Broun is in any way typical.

No, really.

how could that happen.

I've never met any of his patients.

I think he's really just putting on an act with all this bullshit. He's just telling the Oconee and Oglethorpe county rednecks what they want to hear.

if they gave a "degree" to this bozo

radioactive dating, and how fossil fuels are formed?

Let me join you in the

Ralph M. Hall, Texas
F. James Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin
Lamar S. Smith, Texas
Dana Rohrabacher, California
Roscoe G. Bartlett, Maryland
Frank D. Lucas, Oklahoma
Judy Biggert, Illinois
W. Todd Akin, Missouri
Randy Neugebauer, Texas
Michael T. McCaul, Texas
Paul Broun, Georgia
Sandy Adams, Florida
Benjamin Quayle, Arizona
Charles J. "Chuck" Fleischmann, Tennessee
Scott Rigell, Virginia
Steven Palazzo, Mississippi
Mo Brooks, Alabama
Andy Harris, M.D., Maryland
Randy Hultgren, Illinois
Chip Cravaack, Minnesota
Larry Bucshon, Indiana
Dan Benishek, Michigan

Ralph M. Hall, chairman: at 89 years, the oldest serving member of Congress. Attended Texas Christian University, got Law degree at Southern Methodist University. Switched to Republican from D in 2004.

F. James Sensenbrenner: Global Warming Denier in chief and critic of Michelle Obama's posterior. Here's a gem of a quote: “We have to be forward-looking in how we explore space”.

Lamar S. Smith: Smith is a Christian Scientist. His wife, Elizabeth Lynn Schaefer, is a Christian Science practitioner and teacher. I guess that he thinks that is a grand qualification for the Science Committee. "The Constitution provides for freedom of religion, not freedom from religion."

Dana Rohrabacher: During a congressional hearing on climate change on February 8, 2007, Rohrabacher mused that previous warming cycles may have been caused by carbon dioxide released into the atmosphere by "dinosaur flatulence." On May 25, 2011, Rohrabacher expressed further skepticism regarding the existence of man-made global warming. However, he suggested that if it is an issue, a possible solution could be clear-cutting rain forests,

I could go on, but those are just the first four and haven't even got to Akin or Broun.

"man-made global warming. ..... a possible solution could be clear-cutting rain forests"

I'm fucking speechless, like getting sucker punched in the gut speechless.

Jeeeezus Fucking Christ.






how the HELL did these retrogrades get on the Science Committee?

Getting appointed to this committee must have NOTHING to do with one's acceptance of science as a proven point of reference. It just must be a feather in one's cap to BE appointed to A committee - period.

We peons really need to push to have these committees purged and reseated with folks that BELIEVE in science - not ignorant oafs that cling to pre-Scopes trial days!

no, make that pre-Protestant Reformation!!

uhhh, wait, maybe pre-Renaissance.......


yeah, the Dark Ages seems about right.....

LA Times:

WASHINGTON — Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Long Beach)--a prominent conservative who favors drug testing for congressional staffs and supports strong anti-drug legislation--used marijuana, hashish and LSD as a young man, the magazine New Republic will report in its Nov. 5 issue.

The liberal journal states that Rohrabacher asked former friends--only one of whom is named--not to talk about his youthful drug use during his 1988 congressional campaign, and in exchange agreed to avoid "noisy anti-drug crusading."

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-19/local/me-2627_1_dana-rohrabacher

These people are advising on scientific policies that go into bills that is then put forward as potential new legislation? I'm really speechless. What is wrong with this country, and why are so many people so ignorant and backward? The bible is true? The earth is only 5,000 to 9,000 years old? Are the getting their degrees online or what? No wonder we cannot advance along with the rest of the industrialized world with crackpots like this deciding religion is science and science is religion. It's fucking nuts. I can't fathom how they get elected in the first place. It does not instill confidence in my fellow citizens in certain parts of the country who keep putting these freaks in office.

it sometimes works in reverse..

In the modern-day Darwinian synthesis it is a process that operates on its own, without an aim. It does not produce progress or regress.

Sadly, alpha male blowhards who are stupid and proud of their own ignorance and who know how to bully their way over others do not seem to have an evolutionary disadvantage at this time.

It does not go forward, or backward.

Every generation has random mutations. Some survive, some don't.... but the mutations are random, the outcome has no point, no goal, no meaning.

"We are DEVO!"

The ability to breathe?

This is weird and alarming in equal measure.

And having googled him, I am dismayed to discover that he has a medical degree from the Medical College of Georgia. WOW.

Who goes on which committee is determined, by my read, by a couple of things.....seniority (historically this was controlling) which gave the appearance of deference to experience and "wisdom" and now by who has favor with the party leadership.

So this guy could be an avowed anti-scientist - someone who had publicly always stated that science was rubbish but still serve on the committee. Remember that in Republic speak - up is down, black is white, etc. So for them, having someone who doesn't believe in science sit on the committee makes perfect sense. What better person to put on that committee than someone who hates the very subject of the committee.

The pukes are strange creatures indeed.

bachmann is on that one


GOP = low intelligence party

" “You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth,” he said. “I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says.” "

Really? 9,000 years old? And you have evidence? Please, do tell...

I was in a debate against some fundies the other day and they came out with "They're teaching girls how to perform oral sex in Grade 6". I handed my iPad to them and said "prove it". They refused. I just looked it up. Where I am, sex ed is optional and starts at grade 4 with naming the body parts. Issues surrounding sexual orientation are addressed in grade 6, but certainly not "how to perform oral sex". I found that quote pertaining to a school board in a different province relating to a change in their curriculum. It was a right-wing newspaper that is on the verge of going out of business and the story was still false.

There are no angels.
There are no demons.
There is no heaven and there is no hell.
There is only our real, natural world all around us.
Religion is but myth and superstition.
Religious conviction hardens hearts.
Religious faith enslaves minds.

than a solemn vow not to consider that you may have been wrong about the god story.

That's it. That's what everyone keeps holding up as a virtue: "My mind's made up and that's that." Or: "I believe, help thou my unbelief."

If Madoff had clients like that, he'd still be out stealing people's money and they'd be begging him to convince them that he wasn't.

Time for an organized and passionate pushback against religious truthiness, and screw the whining that results.

nt

As the late great Carl Sagan said, the world around us, and the cosmos itself, is proof of what hydrogen atoms can do given 13 billion years. And thats the truth.

7 commandments.

I weep for the present, and the future.

you'd understand why such a large percentage of the population is SO FREAKING IGNORANT! The world could be collapsing around them and it wouldn't be reported.

news and absolutely no "editorial stewardship". The papers from the podunks are probably much worse.

The good news is that Broun has a republican challenger this election that is only about half as crazy.

The bad news is that the democrats here couldn't field a challenger of their own. Being a Democrat is Georgia's overwhelmingly Teahadist congressional House delegation is a shit sandwich no one wants a bite of.

I'm in Athens, GA and the comment section alone at the online Athens Banner (ABH) is wretched hive of scum and villainy.
I wish someone was running vs. Broun but we have no viable write -in Candidate.
Early voting starts tomorrow ,I'm going to write in Charles Darwin.

who can be surprised by this?

It doesn't matter if it's climate change, evolution, or the biology of "legitimate rape", science denial has become stock and trade for the nit-wit GOTP.

That is, of course, if the narrative fits their ideology.

Rising from the dead "Lies straight from the pit of Hell".

These people make me sick.

I got my doctorate at the same university this ignoramus received his chemistry degree from. Wow.

have not one iota of commonsense, intelligence or decency in them?

Remember this.......

The tea party favorite told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Wednesday that he wanted to lower the debt ceiling because when you’re broke, you have to cut back on certain luxuries.

“Well, Andrea, the thing is, when someone is overextended and broke, they don’t continue paying for expensive automobiles; they sell the expensive automobiles and buy a cheaper one,” Broun explained. “They don’t continue paying for country club dues, they drop out of the country club.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/07/gop-lawmaker-advises-poor-to-drop-out-of-the-country-club/

Most people who are overextended and broke also figure out proven ways to bring more money in. Sure they drop country club memberships and cable...but they also take second jobs.

Lowering the debt ceiling is the equivalent of calling the bank and telling them, "you know that loan I took out to buy a boat? I'm overextended so fuck you, I'm not paying it." The difference is the bank can pick up their boat but it's hard to pick up Grandma's oxygen tank.

epitome of arrogance that he would feel that he is in the position to lecture us on Science.

..that makes TOTAL sense....

Knowing full well that people like Broun, Bachmann, Ryan, etc. believe crap like this, yet they still vote them in to government.

"That's what the Bible says." That's all these intellectually lazy goofs need to make their case.

Tell me, Congressman Broun, are you prepared to stone all of your adulterer colleagues in Congress, as the Bible says?

"There are a lot of scientific data that I've found out as a scientist...." I'd like to know where his scientist credentials came from.

When he wasn't getting naked with his son Ham (which some scholars interpret as a sexual act between Ham and his father's wife).

Credit to Garrison Keillor for the Noah riding the dinosaur imagery.

Of course most of the young earthers don't consider them to be animals. Never mind. You don't hear much speculation about birds and reptiles as far as that goes. I mean, I have never seen an ark picture with crocodiles, lizards and snakes slithering up the ramp.

...Sons of Cain skin colour issue.

The devil after all always looks after his own.

seeing as how both species can swim, and there would have been plenty of drowned animals to feed them for the year the Deluge remained.

You do have to overlook how less than a dozen men could build an Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate out of wood without anyone noticing, though...

this uneducated continue to be elected?

...to be that uneducated. And in far to many parts of the country/world have had great success in making it so.

And where they have succeeded, Billy-Bob and Emmy-Lou vote for the fellow who slips on the persona that most appeals to them. They will vote nearly every time for someone who promises what they want over someone who will give them what they need.

Nor does it matter that such promises are rarely delivered on, that's always the fault of the obstructionist opposition.

made my jaw drop again.
it's just so hard to imagine such stubborn, willful ignorance, in an elected lawmaker. we are in trouble.

1. Ignorance

2. Arrogance.


It's almost beyond belief that such a dangerous individual is actually a respected and powerful Congressman and even worse, he serves on the House Science Committee.

That's what's so scary for this country!!!!!

is out by the mall, a part of town most people avoid like the plague. His "medical practice" is "housecalls only" and its address in the phone book is the same as his home address. He lives in a McMansion development. I've never met one of his patients..

He never has events here in Athens, they're always in the fucking wilderness. I don't know of this "Liberty Baptist Church" (and I'm probably better for it) but I'll hazard a guess its either in Cornelia or Toccoa, GA.

I know it well.

If this nation ever dies, that would be a fitting epitaph

he takes his marching orders from them.

I wonder what the rest of the world would think of us if they knew we had complete know-nothings on this alleged "science" committee. I realize there's probably not too many actual scientists in the House (especially with all them 'baggers), but can't we at least have a science committee where the members actually understand and believe in the subject they supposed to be discussing?

..but there have been at least 5 'Big Bangs' based on isotope decay studies of the Silver, Palladium and Rhodium isotope ratios. There were probably more but the studies can only go back five.

...out of which the sun (among other stars) was formed.

But not 5 big bangs. Even allowing for a cyclical universe, the material which passes from one universe to the next does so as an amorphous soup of fundamental particles. And the only recognisable matter that forms are the three lightest elements (hydrogen, helium and lithium) all the rest (including silver, palladium and rhodium) are the product of nuclear reactions in stars which did not form until 100 million years after the Big Bang.

Well, not slate exactly.

Each one produced its own Stars, which fused Elements into heavier ones, the Isotopes of which began to decay from the time they were formed.

The Pd,Ag and Rh group of Elements have been studied extensively, since they are a substantial byproduct of Nuclear Fission, with multiple short-lived Isotopes and measured decay rates.

The other Big Bangs may not have occurred in the Universe that we can see, but they did occur.

When you consider Time as being infinite, Past and Future,and Space being infinite, It's not really that difficult to comprehend.

are still turning people away from the GOP, and it's probably too late to stop the rot (not that I have a problem with that).

after he is "retired" from Congress.

Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

It IS the biblical creation myth.

I hate it when a poorly supported theory in the undeveloped discipline of cosmology is thrown into the same pot as one backed by empirical data from literally billions of cases.

So, a Roman Catholic priest proposed it first. Einstein was skeptical at first but he came round to seeing it for what it is as did other scientists of the day. The universe did have a start point, and the universe is indeed getting bigger. This isn't religious mumbo jumbo at all. Although it fits well with Christian, Islamic and Hindu theology, to me it's the science behind big bang that makes it valid. Stephen Hawking says the universe came from "nothing".

Why are all these lunatics on the House Science Committee ?

What the H*** is going on in this country ???

This clown should have a talk with the gentleman that was on Stephen Colbert's show last night.

Harvard Geneticist, George Church is doing unbelievable amazing work.

He has the DNA from Colbert's newest book on a piece of paper.

The DNA is the size of a period (.).

It contains 20 million copies.

It blew Stephen away.

he'd probably believe he was looking face to face with satan. all of these ignorant, scary congresscritters has me thinking of the dark ages after the fall of rome, where even bathing became a sinful act.

However, I do agree that he may not believe what he is saying, but he's preaching to his ignorant constituents. Like reed was to influence his followers on a gambling vote. And, the e-mail that was sent was very enlightening what they really think of their faithful followers.

The scary thing the people in his district continue to vote these idiots to remain in house not realizing how dumb it makes them look.

if he's going to espouse nonsense like that.

He's hell bent on a nation of uneducated wallmart greeters.. and I'll bet he's the first to complain that the increasing majority of PhD candidates in our universities are all from other countries and not the US. Well, the first thing is to know the difference between a book that was re-written in the 17th century and ongoing scientific research.

The universe is billions of years old. The earth is way, way older than 9000 years. Get over it already.

United States House Committee on Science, Space and Technology
The Committee on Science, Space and Technology is a committee of the United States House of Representatives. It has jurisdiction over non-defense federal scientific research and development. Specifically, the committee has partial or complete jurisdiction over the following federal agencies: NASA, the Department of Energy, EPA, ATSDR, NSF, FAA, NOAA, National Institute of Standards and Technology, FEMA, the U.S. Fire Administration, and United States Geological Survey.

full info here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Science,_Space_and_Technology#112th_Congress

I guess he's not alone: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/25/todd-akins-science_n_1830383.html

He doesn't believe his own words for a second. It's a circus act.

I never saw this one!!

This is great!

You can buy it on Amazon.com (Home Teacher's Edition)

http://www.amazon.com/Science-Christian-Schools-Teachers-Edition/dp/0890845697

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations

And this:
On the electrodynamics of moving bodies by Albert Einstein, 1905, one of two papers on special relativity published that year by Einstein. This and the other extends Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism to cover inertial reference frames (traveling at constant velocity).

Einstein wrote two other very important papers that year, one on Brownian motion (important in statistical mechanics and atomic theory), the other on the photoelectric effect (which helped establish the reality of quantum theory and won Einstein the Nobel Prize in 1921).

So, I guess we don't know what electricity is.

Let's fire up the arc welder and watch raw, naked electricity melt steel - be sure to bring dark glasses!

Ms. White is going to hold onto this wire, kids, so she can feel the electricity that we make when we pass this magnet (in the flywheel of the lawn-mower engine) through a coil. Now, if we do it v-e-r-y slowly, not much happens, because we haven't put very much energy into moving the magnet. But, when little Mikey gives this rope a good strong yank, we "transform" that kinetic energy into electric energy, aka "electricity"! Help Ms. White up, kids, and when she can talk without saying those bad words, she'll tell us what electricity feels like.

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Electrifying, August 9, 2012
By Frogdog - See all my reviewsThis review is from: Science 4 for Christian Schools (Home Teacher's Edition) (Paperback)
This book is by far one of the best knowlegable books to help understand creationism. It tells us all about electricity and how God will strike you down with one of his thunder bolts if you mess with him. All electricity belongs to God and anyone who dares mention the word dinosaur or, heaven forbid, Charles Darwin, they will feel his wrath with a surge of electricity shot from his finger after he has peed on them with a golden shower.Which is the only critisism I have with this book because it doesn't mention electricity comes from him. Praise be to The Lord Bowman and his almighty tazer Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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1.0 out of 5 stars Science for Christian zombies., August 4, 2012
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Why is it zombies eat brains but never get any smarter? I don't know, same reason Christians read "science" books like this yet remain mired in ignorance, myth and fantasy? I give it one star because I'm too lazy to change it to no stars. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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4.0 out of 5 stars So I did what it said and went fiddlehead hunting, August 4, 2012
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There was that passage in the book about God making different kinds of ferns and how you can go hunting for edible ferns. I took the book's advice and also went mushroom hunting while I was at it. It said that if you go looking for the fiddlehead fnords, you just might see them. I started to worry just what these fnords look like and became very fightened that one night eat me instead. Then I saw the fnord! Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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1.0 out of 5 stars Only "one example"? Here are more., August 4, 2012
By TiredOfBeingRippedOff - See all my reviewsThis review is from: Science 4 for Christian Schools (Home Teacher's Edition) (Paperback)
A previous "review" of this book cites that only "one thing" in this book is bad. Check out these gems.

"A scientist who believes in evolution . . . would reason that the whole area must have been underwater in only the last million years or so. A scientist who believes in the biblical account of Creation would say that the fossil was probably formed a few thousand years ago when the Flood of Noah's time covered the entire earth."

"The usual explanation for coal given by evolutionists, on the other hand, involves imaginary peat bogs that are said to have existed millions of years ago."

"Evolutionists had hoped that some form of life might be found on Mars. Such a find would help support their belief that life 'happens' by itself wherever conditions are right."

"When Galileo first used a telescope to study the heavens in 1609, he was amazed at the number of stars he could see. He declared that the stars were 'innumerable.' People then began to have a greater appreciation for the mighty works of the Creator."

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1.0 out of 5 stars Entertaining fiction, August 4, 2012
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Because it's purpose is to make kids indoctrinated morons, it gets one star. The writers are more interested in making religious drones that will turn the USA into a theocracy. People who believe what this book says are non-productive leeches on society. Not a single person who was educated on materials from the Bob Jones University can claim to have a well rounded critical eye on the world. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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1.0 out of 5 stars Lacks Scientific Credibility, August 3, 2012
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1.0 out of 5 stars How to use ignorance as a teaching tool, August 3, 2012
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This has to be the worst book ever written. Why would anyone want to teach there kids ignorance? How can they, as a parent live with themselves for doing such an atrocious thing. How can the author sleep at night knowing what this book is to be used for.
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A darn monkey could do better pushing buttons on a console than this moran could do with a roomful of encyclopedias!

Yes.

Really.

AND ... it works.

Kill religion, and a lot of other nonsense would die along with it.

You know, like a conspiracy, cause that's what learned people do; can't be trusted; evil doers.

I'm glad it's Friday afternoon, as there are just some things I cannot comprehend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Broun

It's PERSONAL to them.

They KNOW they deserve to roast in hell and a religion that teaches them that they have a superhero on their side who will swoop in and pluck them up in their fall into the lake of fire,.....well,.....to that I have one thing to say to this prick: "Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" and stop with the "culture of dependency". And one other thing, just because you go around invoking the name of Jesus like you are casting a spell with a "sense of entitlement" it doesn't mean you "deserve a handout".

Pray for me, Dr. Broun, Republican on the Science Committee.

I'll think for you.

He and his Neoconderthal friends celebrate "Throw Stick and Rock Night" once every 30 days or so.

wonder why people point and laugh at them when they espouse this stupid shit....

(..Facepalm..)

This fellow says that evolution and the Big Bang are lies straight from the pits of Hell.

The idea of Hell is a lie, which means nothing could have come from it. Therefore, evolution and the Big Bang couldn't have originated from Hell.

No?

You are a Republican Liar, and you are surely going to Hell.

http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

Healing the sick, feeding the poor, clothing the naked and all that jazz?

Some of them have gotten in trouble for getting caught without their clothes, with people other than their wives. Way more than the general average.

OPERATION NORTHWOODS

Not a sentient being among this crowd. Sure that the Freepers are cheering him on.

Ignorant statements by ‘Doctors’ just like Rep. Paul Broun resulted in over 6 million people being stuffed into ovens in the 1940’s in Europe.

Don’t forget Josef Mengele was a Doctor too!

evolution, embryology, and the Big Bang Theory



that is one hell of class

biology, developmental biology, and cosmology all in one big bundle?

BTW somebody should tell the doctor that it takes millions of years of heat and
pressure to turn diatoms into crude oil.



these people are really insane and need to be on meds

How he ever got into any med school or public office completely baffles me.

..... found all around the universe was the "backwash" of the big bang.




this man is on the science committee?

I am not a physicist, but I live with one.

http://geology.com/rocks/chert.shtml
(snip)

"Some of the silicon dioxide in chert is thought to have a biological origin. In some oceans and shallow seas large numbers of diatoms and radiolarians live in the water. These organisms have a glassy silica skeleton. Some sponges also produce "spicules" that are composed of silica. When these organisms die their silica skeletons fall to the bottom, dissolve, recrystallize and might become part of a chert nodule or chert layer. Chert formed in this way could be considered a biological sedimentary rock. "
(More at link)

..... and when millions and billions of them died and were trapped in the
right conditions you get crude oil ...... but then again i might be wrong.

A geologist came to our area to check out some soil types and various formations, we mentioned the chert and he wasn't impressed until he saw it. A very well metamorphosed type, coming mostly in a rust red, but yellow and green too. Almost as good as obsidian for tools. He explained how it was ancient sea bed that had been sub-ducted, gone through heat and pressure and then been uplifted. Just South of Ft. Ross is where the San Andreas fault comes ashore again and goes North along the South Fork, then North Fork of the Gualala River. There are very large blocks of stone found around here that came from the Sierra Mountains. This section of the Coast Range is quite a blend of soil types.

except on Tuesday nights. Tuesday is pit BBQ night.

Bazinga!

1. Extrapolate from the temperature of molten sulfur, in degrees Kelvin, the mean ambient temperature of Hell. Show your work.
2. What would be the net effect on the timeline of Creation, if, as the spirit of God "moved upon the face of the waters" (Gen. 1:2), it crossed the International Date line?

Your turn.....

These teabaggers got into the house because a lot of dems were sleep at the wheel or protesting for some damned reason. We need to make a change now though.

the world is flat. This jackoff is a doctor. Maybe he's in Congress because of losing medical malpractice law suits.

Their faith is peril.

If they loose their faith, they loose their god.

If they loose their god, everything they were ever taught and believed was for nothing.

They would have to start all over... from nothing.

And that is exactly what it takes to meet reality for the first time,
just like a newborn baby.

You either can do it, or you can't.

All that said, protect the children from dogma.

They should participate in neither one.

And...I think these freaks are dangerous.

It is urgent that the citizens of the United States of America stop electing these cave dwellers.

Their insanity, insane policies and supporters are destroying this countries ability to compete.

They are rewriting history, reinterpreting history and jonesing to repeat it.

They are unwilling to accept change.

They are unwilling to accept facts.

They are a destructive, dangerous and frightening bunch.

...No, they absolutely INSIST that you and I join them in the darkness and also consume their stupid soup.

What an idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution#Support_for_evolution_by_religious_bodies

Not all religious organizations find support for evolution incompatible with their religious faith. For example, 12 of the plaintiffs opposing the teaching of creation science in the influential McLean v. Arkansas court case were clergy representing Methodist, Episcopal, African Methodist Episcopal, Catholic, Southern Baptist, Reform Jewish, and Presbyterian groups.

There are several religious organizations that have issued statements advocating the teaching of evolution in public schools. In addition, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, issued statements in support of evolution in 2006. The Clergy Letter Project is a signed statement by 12,808 (as of 28 May 2012) American Christian clergy of different denominations rejecting creationism organized in 2004.

Molleen Matsumura of the National Center for Science Education found, of Americans in the twelve largest Christian denominations, at least 77% belong to churches that support evolution education (and that at one point, this figure was as high as 89.6%). These religious groups include the Catholic Church, as well as various denominations of Protestantism, including the United Methodist Church, National Baptist Convention, USA, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church (USA), National Baptist Convention of America, African Methodist Episcopal Church, the Episcopal Church, and others.

Of course, people don't always agree with their own churches on such issues, but the Pew stats still show a majority of Catholics, mainline Protestants, etc. accepting evolution. And on the other side, even atheists and agnostics do not universally accept evolution, as you can see in the Pew bar graph (as "unaffiliated").

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Lewis Black on evolution:
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The Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, GA. (706)-376-0154. This is Not what America stands for. For Paul Broun, a member of the U.S. House of Representatives and of the House Science Committee to utter such obscene nonsense is both repugnant and sad.

It should give us all pause even though we know by now that congress no longer represents " the people" and that this type of pandering to the ignorant for votes should sicken anyone who believes in this democracy regardless of religious affiliation. Science and religion are NOT mutually exclusive. Paul Broun and his ilk have no business in such a position of responsibility and public trust. Shameful.

I can hardly make my way through this thread - my head is sore from banging it on the desk.

I pity his "patients". But maybe they deserve him.

There is someone stupider than George W. Bush.

but then again, if there were really intelligent members in charge of this House committee, then the US would have to come up with regulations to deal with Man made climate change, deforestation, fracking and the biggest joke of all CLEAN COAL.

It's funny how even his explanation for the origin of these "lies" is supernatural. It's not other people who have made up these lies in an attempt to mislead him - it's the Devil.

The question to ask here isn't "how do guys like this get voted into office?", it's "how do we vote them out?"

Of course the bible is not a book of scientific reference. That's what we keep telling those creationist nimrods who insist on using it as such. It's ok to have faith in something but to put all of your eggs into one basket defies the ability to think As for the bible being around for 2,000 years, it might interest you to know that it came about being chosen arbitrarily during the Council of Nicene by the addition of certain books and chapters and the omission of others, with many more delegated as Apocrypha, or outside writings with many hundreds burned along with the Christian sects that practiced them. The gospels themselves, as is all the bible, is fraught with inaccuracies and contradictions. When was Jesus crucified? Was it at the third hour as it says in Mark 15:25 or was it in the sixth hour as it says in John 19:14? Who was the father of Joseph? Was it Jacob as it says in Matthew 1:16 or Heli as Luke 3:23 states? How about the generations between Abraham and David? Matthew 1:17 says fourteen; Matthew 1:2 says thirteen.

What was the nationality of the woman who approached Jesus to cast out the devils that possessed her daughter? Was she a Canaanite as Matthew 15:22 states or a "Greek, a Syrophenician by nation," as Mark 7:26 says? When did Jesus heal the leper? Was it after he visited Simon Peter's house according to Mark 1:29 or before as Matthew 8:13 says? Not to mention that there are two accounts of creation and two accounts of how Judas Iscariot got killed; one of suicide by hanging and in the Acts of the Apostles by falling in a field long after Jesus died and bursting his guts open.
Nonetheless a large group of 'Repukelicans' feel larger than life when they jump on that religious bandwagon of the oppressed. Remember Religion and Politics are like oil and water....they don't mix well. Passions run high when you get involved with either one but you can't use them together and argue intelligently.

Welcome to Du, rebuke.

We've been waiting for you. Pull up a chair. Your command of the Bible is enviable.

and I was enthralled coming to America almost 40 yrs ago for education, to immerse myself in the great nation that carries the mantel and assumes the stewardship of the legacy of Western civilization and enlightenment.

I read about the Scopes monkey trial and thought that was a vestige of the past.

I could have never imagined that in 21st century, we Americans have our own Talibanic Christian fundamentalists, and they are in power.

These men, such as Broun, are not uneducated. They chose to repudiate scientific knowledge and believe in religious dogma for a psychological need. Many pundits have already studied this human psychological trait, the same trait that gives Islamic fundamentalists in some countries and Christian fundamentalists in others.

Which is comprised of fine upstanding people. People like West, Bachmann, Akin, and both Kings.

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Braun does his part for evolution by thinning Santa's herd resulting in next years sleigh being pulled by reindeer that are less likely to draw attention to themselves by having a nice set of antlers, or a glowing red nose.

I color-corrected a picture of this man about three hours ago. Rep. Broun was the finest shade of Boehner Orange imaginable.

It really astounds me that the district with Athens (UGA) and Augusta (Georgia Health Sciences University - Medical College of GA) could elect such a backwards thinker, but there you go.



Sorry, America.