Paul Ryan Falls Apart When Asked How Romney Will Pay for Tax Cuts for the Rich

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Source: PoliticusUSA (abc news)

Paul Ryan fell apart today when George Stephanopoulos asked the deer in headlights vice presidential nominee how Mitt Romney will pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts for the rich.

Here’s the video:

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/paul-ryan-falls-asked-romney-pay-tax-cuts-rich.html

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Ryan fails again.

[orpupilofnature57]

1. You can run, but you can't do a marathon in under 3hrs

and you can't explain the inexplicable.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. A policy wanker, indeed.

[flamingdem]

33. As opposed to wonk! That's funny n/t

[Bigredhunk]

3. n/t

But he's so darn serious. He's such a serious candidate. He's serious.

[Orrex]

11. Seriously?

[Frank Cannon]

14. And he's sooooo good looking.

And in great physical shape. He has abdominal muscles like iron bands.

[jimlup]

38. I actually heard two women in a restaurant discussing how they had choosen whom to vote for

in 2000. They choose Bush because "he was cute."

[treestar]

77. Beauty may be in the eyes of the beholder but

that is TOO much!

[Marie Marie]

64. Somebody really needs to explain to me this push to make him this dreamy hot candidate.

Forget that he is a moron. I see nothing "sponge-worthy" about him. To me, he has this kind of dopey look about him.

[Justitia]

68. I find him creepy as hell. -eom

[tavalon]

70. Sponge worthy!

LOL.

[LibertyLover]

73. And don't forget those dreamy blue eyes

that are like the Caribbean in their blueness and depth and sparkle. Ooooooh!

[TheDonkey]

79. I think he told Diane Sawyer he got a Bronze at 2008 Beijing Games. Such an American dreamboat.

[louis-t]

74. And he's such a 'straight shooter'.

[jmowreader]

4. Paul Ryan is SO fortunate I wasn't interviewing him this morning

Ryan: "When Reagan did this, it worked."

Me: "No, Paul. When Reagan did this in August 1982, by his signing of the Kemp-Roth Tax Cut, it immediately began a 16-month string of higher unemployment rates that ended with a 10.8 percent unemployment rate, the highest recorded in the post-World War II era. It also resulted in a rough tripling of the national debt and a rough tripling of the deficit--we're talking something like 270 percent of what it was before Reagan took office. And no, taxes did NOT go down for everyone. Some of the tax deductions and credits--no one knows what a "loophole" actually is, so don't use the term with me--Reagan eliminated, like the non-mortgage interest deduction, caused the working class taxpayer's taxes to go up, sometimes significantly. And one of the business deductions Reagan eliminated, the deduction for "passive loss" that makes rental real estate profitable, killed an entire industry, the Savings and Loan Banks. Nothing Reagan did actually worked, and if your head wasn't shoved so far up Ayn Rand's ass you can tell what she had for dinner three days ago you would know that."

[barbtries]

12. i think i'll print this paragraph

and just keep it handy in my purse for emergencies. i do wish you had been there instead of whats-his-face.

[nanabugg]

42. Please post this on FB and HP and FR. This is the smartest answer I've heard (but known).

Tired to tell people this for years but eyes glazed over.

[nanabugg]

43. The biggest bust for working folks was the elimination of credit card and loan interest. nt

[lunatica]

78. Did you mean elimination of restrictions?

[ms liberty]

47. I wish I could rec this reply...n/t

[Moral Compass]

48. You've got your facts straight

I had this argument for years with some of my right wing co-workers whenever they'd talk about how Reagan "lowered" taxes.

He lowered taxes a great deal for the higher earners. But those of us in the middle...well not so much.

My taxes went up...a lot. I actually moved up a bracket and I lost all my deductions. In 1987 I was damn near back to being able to do a 1040 EZ (except I don't think it existed back then). I didn't own a home and didn't have any kids.

So, don't ever try and tell me that Reagan gave me a tax cut. It was a very large tax increase because we went from something like 7 brackets to 3 and I was now in the middle bracket--a bracket that was much higher than my previous bracket. I also stopped being able to write off my credit card and auto loan interest.

I was not a happy guy in 1987 and I'll always remember.

[Samantha]

69. Another thing Ryan conveniently forgot to mention is that the Bush* taxcuts are #2 driver

of the deficit. So if one adds to those tax cuts, it is beyond comprehension how doing so improves the deficit. It would deepen it. Even the PEW Foundation has said the Bush* tax cuts are the number one driver (although other economic analysis such as the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities list it as #2):

http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Fact_Sheets/Economic_Policy/drivers_federal_debt_since_2001.pdf

1. The 2001/2003 tax cuts;6
2. The overseas operations in Iraq and
Afghanistan;
3. Medicare Part D;7
4. The Troubled Asset Relief Program
(TARP);
5. The 2009 stimulus;8 and
6. The December 2010 tax legislation.9

http://www.cbpp.org/research/index.cfm?fa=topic&id=121



Yes, the mortgage interest tax deduction (recommended by Bowles-Simpson, also called Simpson-Bowles plan) is something Romney is considering doing. That is why he won't reveal details of his "plan" before the election, not because he wants to have an open negotiating session with members of the people's representatives, but because no one would vote for him if he did so. That is in addition to privatizing Social Security, voucherizing Medicare and slashing Medicaid, privatizing the Post Office, instituting a national Right to Work law, repealing Roe v. Wade, and the list goes on and on ....

Sam

[reflection]

5. That was painful.

It chills me that someone can stare into a camera with a vacuous gaze and rattle off lies like that.

(paraphrase)
"We want to have this debate in public"

"So tell us which loopholes you're going to go after"

"We want to have this debate in public. We don't want it to be secret"

"That's what I'm saying. Tell the public what loopholes you are going to go after before they make up their minds"

"That's what we want to do."

Stephanopolous should not have let the interview proceed past that point until Ryan acknowledged his own cognitive dissonance and answered the question. He should have dug in his heels.

[Scairp]

67. I don't get George at all

Why did he allow Ryan to get away with this crap? Isn't it his job as a journalist to call politicians on the carpet when they won't answer a question that is key to the election, especially when he is essentially saying they will let us know what the plan is AFTER they are (not), elected? What a pathetic interview this was.

[greiner3]

6. Damn;

Check out his body language. Head bowed most of the time and his eyes glancing up. He is lying and he needs approval because he's been a BADDDDD BOYYYYY!

Maybe he needs to go to the same hooker as 'Diaper' David Vitter of LA.

[Swede Atlanta]

7. What a lying sack of doo.....

This is Lyin-Ryan.....they want to have this debate in public AFTER the election....yes AFTER they sit (they think) with solid majorities in the House and Senate so they can ramrod this crap down Americans' throats. They will do this, like Bush did with the Medicare RX program, in the stealth of night.

Like Obamacare was? I'm sorry...that bill was debated and debated and debated. The fact that few of those voting bothered to read the bill is not our problem.

You can tell he is lying. Watch his eyes. He is lying as surely as a catholic bishop says he didn't know his priest was molesting young boys and girls. Lies, lies, lies.

[RBInMaine]

22. It's ok. You can say SHIT. He is of course a LYING SHIT HEAD.

[indepat]

8. Absolutely everyone knows how RMoney/Rayn are going to pay for the $5 trillion tax

cut for the wealthy: out of the hides and lives of the elderly, the poor, and the frail for they will gladly sacrifice an untold number of lives so the wealthy can slop at the Federal welfare trough big-time and with added gusto.

[n2doc]

44. Republicans never pay for anything

They make everyone else pay.

[mountain grammy]

61. Pay for it? Pay for it? So true, Republicons never pay for anything

but they sure can run up the bills for the rest of us to pay while they do everything but govern.

[jmowreader]

60. You missed part

They need to explain how they are going to...

give a $5 trillion tax cut to the wealthy
quadruple defense spending
and balance the budget...

all at the same time!

Right now, Romney is looking less like Gordon Gekko, who he patterned both his business practices and his haircut after, and more like Romania's last dictator Nicolae Ceaucescu, who created the economic and women's health programs Romney plans to implement.

And please note: Ceaucescu's reign of error ended when the Romanian Army captured him on December 21, 1989, subjected him to trial by kangaroo court on December 25, 1989, and executed him minutes later. We don't need any military coups in this country.

[indepat]

75. As best I recall, Ceausescu's wife was also executed

[jmowreader]

83. Exactly, and at the same time

And immediately after they were put up against the wall--the firing squad gave their escorts just enough time to get to safety before they blew their shit away.

The best part of the Ceaucescus' execution was that they actually had to tell hundreds of soldiers they could NOT take part in the ceremonies. Apparently half the army volunteered for the honor of shooting Nicolae and Elena Ceaucescu.

[barbtries]

9. gawd that was excruciating.

i couldn't even get all the way through it.



i'm glad he's being challenged but wingnuts are probably going to say he won that round.

[rhett o rick]

10. The answer is easy. Iraq will be so happy that we liberate them that they will glad

foot the bill ...... oops, that was a different lie.

[TeeYiYi]

13. Peter Lorre eyes...

(My apologies to Mr. Lorre.)

TYY

[lumpy]

16. And some people think Ryan is handsome. I be damned if I would like watching that

pissante eat my scrabbled eggs.

[RebelOne]

37. He is not my type, no matter how good looking he is. n/s

[icarusxat]

40. he is creepy

kinda like the gun dealer in Men in Black who could grow his head back...

[ann---]

53. I agree

He reminds me of a jittery lech.

[Auntie Bush]

62. I think he looks like he forgot to put in his dentures.

He smiles like a little old toothless man.

[red dog 1]

41. Paul Ryan, meet Eddie Munster.

"The young Republican and the young werewolf share a widow's peak."

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/15/paul_ryan_meet_eddie_munster/

[bluesbassman]

50. You know, I've seen that look on Ryan's face before. Let me think, now where was it???

Oh yeah, now I remember. I saw that same look on my son's face when he was three years old and I told him "no you can't have that candy bar".

[liberal N proud]

15. Isn't that a secret plan?

The media is starting to show these idiots true colors.

It has to be killing them to have to ask these questions.

[teenagebambam]

17. They're showing the clip right now on CNN

and three commentators are openly laughing at him.

[kurtzapril4]

18. I don't know what video you saw,

but I didn't see him "falling apart." I saw him answer every question confidently, and without a doubt believeing the bullshit he was spouting. That was a very confident performance.

[truthisfreedom]

19. I agree. The only times he had a deer-in-headlights look was when there was a transmission delay at

the end of each question. He certainly did spout a lot of total bullshit though. He refused again and again to answer questions and answered them in a backward way... how can we have a public discussion of the Romney plan when they won't discuss it until after the election?

[RBInMaine]

21. Very confident in his SECRET BULLSHIT PLANS THAT ARE LOST IN THE PAST and his LIES.

[Nostradammit]

26. I'm having a little trouble with your screen name.

Can you please explain it to me?

Is that Col. Kurtz you're referring to and associating with Dr. King's assassination?

[Ellipsis]

27. No it was... misdirection on how not to answer a direct question. It was embarrassing.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. me 2....just a bunch of double talk. misleading headline, imho

[RBInMaine]

20. Secret plans along with RobMe'a secret tax returns. @ least he was honest about their plans being

in THE PAST. Did you all notice that? He said, "This is what has worked in the PAST, like under Ronald Reagan." Yeah, under Reagan who handed the country to the rich and exploded the defiticits.

[James48]

23. Ryan=Rand=LaVey

[lumpy]

30. I hope all of us have not forgotten how in his formative years he was

entranced by Ayn Rand. Ryan is still in a quandry regarding his beliefs.

[ErikJ]

32. John 8:44 -Satan is the Father of Lies

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

[SoapBox]

39. Exactly...

I just posted that he creeps me out so much and it's like looking into the cold, blank, black eyes of Damien or Satan.

...shiver.

[lastlib]

59. And Paul Ryan is his second son.

[patrice]

56. So, that's why all of the stars on Republican elephants and such are up-side down!! nt

[barnabas63]

24. Ryan and Rmoney ..

...are going to be chewed up and spit out during the debates by Biden and Obama.

[INdemo]

25. You can watch him squirm here on YouTube

at about 4:00...also he says Obamacare would force people to go Medicaid and Doctors reject medicaid..Now that is the biggest bunch of BS ever..

If are subject to high BP, limit your time watching this.

[jberryhill]

29. I love that

He says, "we don't want a backroom deal".

But the reason he can't tell us is that "we need to negotiate with Congress".

And he wants it to be a "public debate", which is why he can't tell us what is their position.

I just love it.

[Pharaoh]

55. He wants a public debate in private

Otherwise George should have just asked him, " how much more public than on Teevee, right now?"

[Spitfire of ATJ]

45. Ryan looks at this chart

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And says, "The bottom 80% are being greedy".

[Amonester]

57. So, when will this shill stephanopolus give the same air-time to

Vice-President Joe Biden, huh???

[WCGreen]

28. If this is a wonk for the republican side....

Then this guy is an umpa lumpa

[geckosfeet]

31. What a load of gibberish.

[blueknight]

34. jesus

that guy just gives me the creeps. looks or acts like a pedophile

[jsr]

35. Clueless idiot

[bucolic_frolic]

36. He really is in over his head

Shouldn't he be taking hamburger orders with a pencil behind his ear?

[and-justice-for-all]

46. He really said "lower gas prices"?

He is so full of shit, I can smell it through the internet.

I couldn't take anymore after they had Eddie Munster respond to President Obama's foreign policy comments at the DNC.

[bkkyosemite]

49. His left nostil is bigger than his right and

I think he is not cute or good looking. And above all he is the biggest liar and I have seen recently except of course his buddy Romney. He is asked a question and says all these words that don't answer the question yet if a Republican was watching this they would say see all the policies he has and they are such good ones....omg

[ProgressiveEconomist]

51. The "Harvard and Princeton studies" Ryan referenced for support

are just LAUGHABLE! See http://www.democraticunderground.com/125191603 .

[olddad56]

52. I can't stand the guy, but I didn't get how he ' Fell apart".

He just sounded like the same double-talking dirt bag he as always sounded like to me.

[JudyM]

65. +1 nt

[demwing]

54. Ryan seems to have a cue card behind the camera

with canned responses.

You can hear the difference as he segues into and out of the script. A good example - start the recording at 12m:30s -
"The problem with President Obama ...and his budgets are...you add up all his tax increases George? "

he's fucking reading that. No way a human sounds like that, even when nervous. The "...and his budgets are..." part is very awkward, as if Ryan tried to read through a page flip.

[johnnyrocket]

58. Wow, the media decides to ask questions on arithmetic. They are so, so clever.

[november3rd]

66. Feel Sorry For Him

The guy obviously works his ass off and is staking his whole career on this election, but he's in way over his head.

He can't answer a simple question with a simple answer, and listeners' eyes glaze over after 15 seconds when he opens his mouth.

He has no sense of humor.

Everybody knows he's lying about Obama, and that he could have implemented increments of his policies under Obama's budget, if he were really willing to work for the greater good.

People love Obama, and this guy disses him unfairly, which has to kill his approval rating.

[Mkap]

71. He says we need to get on the right path

Yes we do Paul Ryan, why don't you as a congressmen start working on that

[cstanleytech]

72. He sounds as bad as Palin when she gave that rambling resignation speech once

she decided to bail on the state and go for the potential $$$ that she could earn by doing speaking engagements to other teaparty/republican idiots.

[klook]

76. "Elect us and we will remove (REDACTED) tax loopholes" ... Total BS (n/t)

[Blue Owl]

80.

[Hissyspit]

81. I heard that. Absolutely pathetic, sleazy and hypocritical. I would be embarrassed for Ryan

if he weren't so disgusting.

[applegrove]

82. The new GOP meme is that only those individuals making over $100,000

will have their loopholes cut.