Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:23 PM
Grassy Knoll (4,270 posts)
Paul Ryan On Medical Marijuana Legalization: 'Let The States Decide' (VIDEO)
Source: huffingtonpost.com
In an interview with Colorado station KRDO-TV, Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan says he believes it's up to the states to decide whether to legalize medical marijuana. <snip> According to KRDO-TV, Ryan made clear that he "doesn't believe" in the effort, but he nevertheless feels the issue should be reconciled at the state level. Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/paul-ryan-marijuana-legalization_n_1866180.html
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Grassy Knoll | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| Richard D | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| JudyM | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| Mr.Bill | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| bupkus | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| stuffmatters | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| Mnpaul | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| freshwest | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| tanyev | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| RoccoR5955 | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| rocktivity | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| winstars | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| Bonhomme Richard | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| TeamPooka | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| Andy823 | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| Odin2005 | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| Oldenuff | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| LibGranny | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| zbdent | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| davidthegnome | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| Incitatus | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| hatrack | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| Comrade Grumpy | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| bupkus | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| Comrade Grumpy | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| bupkus | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| davidthegnome | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| bluecoat_fan | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| bupkus | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| tabasco | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| QUALITYCONTRoll | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| Z_California | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| elbloggoZY27 | Sep 2012 | #34 |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:26 PM
Richard D (6,522 posts)
1. Trying to get the Paulites.
Response to Richard D (Reply #1)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:34 PM
JudyM (2,302 posts)
5. ... or the youth vote, generally. because he is *so* hip. nt
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:26 PM
Mr.Bill (889 posts)
2. My state, California, has decided.
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But the feds are still out here busting marijuana grows.
This is, by the way, one of my major disappointments with the Obama administration. |
Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:29 AM
stuffmatters (81 posts)
21. Doubt Obama understands how strong the Anti(Drug) war sentiment runs in Ca
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Or how betrayed Obama supporters feel at his aggressive,destructive assault on medical marijuana.
I can only equate this Democratic anger with Obama to that of the Anti Vietnam War sentiment that grew against Johnson and led to the election of Nixon ( even more popularly despised than Rmoney) over Humphrey. Ryan is really smart to hit this Obama vulnerability of his own making. And, because Obama lied and has destroyed medical marijuana business in Ca rather than respect our state's referendum, as he'd promised. Obama has really made a mess for himself. At this point, The Repubs really could corral a lot of the youth on an anti drug war vote. It's as disproportionately ageist/ racist, corporatist/Wall Street serving,cripplingly expensive and unjust/inhumane/myth driven as the Vietnam War ever was. Obama would do well to consider his own power as President to reclassify marijuana to the same restrictions for alcohol and tobacco. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:26 PM
Mnpaul (1,415 posts)
3. "Let the states decide"
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up until the point where the states want to pass laws demanding disclosure of political donors. Then it is a constitutional crisis and the federal government must step in.
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Response to Mnpaul (Reply #3)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:40 PM
freshwest (31,341 posts)
6. +1,000. And let the states decide who can vote, who can marry, and what rape is...
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Yup, Little Dedo really cares about our freedom and liberty. That's a tiebreaker, that one is.
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Response to Mnpaul (Reply #3)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:12 AM
tanyev (22,078 posts)
24. Up until the time Republicans regain the White House.
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Then they forget all about states' rights.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:30 PM
RoccoR5955 (6,489 posts)
4. More like he needs the Ron Paulie Girls' votes
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After all, that's the real reason they are for him.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:41 PM
rocktivity (36,623 posts)
7. You're going to have it medically legal in some states but not others?
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Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:41 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) That makes as much sense as doing that for same sex marriage!
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Response to rocktivity (Reply #7)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:58 PM
99th_Monkey (7,200 posts)
16. Well, that's what we have now
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I mean I agree with you it is stupid, but it IS what it is.
I want it flat out legalized, like this brave federal judge came out today and said. http://blog.norml.org/2012/09/07/federal-judge-criminalization-of-marijuana-is-absurd/ |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:43 PM
winstars (1,213 posts)
8. He's lying, he was probably a Narc in high school!!! LOL n/t
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:47 PM
Bonhomme Richard (7,815 posts)
9. It doesn't matter what he says. What matters is what Mitt wants.
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He knows he can say that because he will never be called on it. VP's don't make policy. He's looking to buy points with an empty wallet.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:57 PM
TeamPooka (3,286 posts)
10. yeah, as he calls it a gateway drug... idiot. nt
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:59 PM
Andy823 (4,697 posts)
11. Well...
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Since we all know how "honest" he is, I guess we should just believe him, right? I don't think so!
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:04 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
12. Clever politics on his part, bad for us.
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He's trying to steal young voters.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:13 PM
Oldenuff (493 posts)
13. Mitty feels differently
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Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:15 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) or another case of the right hand doesn't know what the other right hand is doing.Mitt says he will fight Medical Marijuana "Tooth and Nail",which is actually only a little harder stance than the Obama Administration has taken on California dispensaries.Surprisingly,the Obama administration has been harder on Marijuana than Bush...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=6lTbAI4sP0M edited to include youtube of uncle Mitty showing his compassionate side. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:23 PM
LibGranny (468 posts)
15. Seems to me they (R&R) don't want to
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decide anything or if they have "decided" anything they don't want to let the public in on their decisions! Or maybe they just haven't "run the numbers" yet!
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:21 PM
zbdent (34,522 posts)
17. He's lyin ...
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like he would support the states' decisions (on m.m.) any more than Bush43 (who?) did ...
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:23 PM
davidthegnome (1,872 posts)
18. Hmm...
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Paul Ryan is a colossal prick, so I don't really care what he thinks about it anyway.
I am concerned with the DOJ continuing to crack down on medical marijuana... for what purpose, I can't discover. This is something that I hope Obama will address in the years to come - after we re-elect him, of course. I haven't given up hope on him seeing the light, in regards to this particular issue. We may just need to hold his feet to the fire, as we have done with other issues. Frankly I think it should be legalized on the federal level, especially for medical purposes, but for recreational purposes as well. From my understanding of marijuana, it causes less damage than either smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol and is also, generally speaking, less destructive than alcohol. Let's see... tax revenue, a great weakening of organized crime overall - regulation and control of something that a whole lot of people are damn well going to use whether it's legal or not. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:07 AM
Incitatus (4,189 posts)
19. Paul Ryan swam from California to Hawaii in 3 days. nt
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:13 AM
hatrack (33,152 posts)
20. "Oh, shit! The Libertarians! What can I say that . . . wait a minute! I've GOT it!"
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Nice try, Congressman Laser-Eyes-Of-Fiscal-Death. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:30 AM
Comrade Grumpy (3,356 posts)
22. It's a close race in Colorado, and marijuana is an issue.
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1. The Obama Justice Department has forced dozens of state-law abiding dispensaries out of business by threatening asset forfeiture or criminal charges. 2. A marijuana legalization initiative is on the ballot, and it's got a nine point lead in recent polls. 3. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is running hard in the state and playing to the pot issue. Ryan is probably just pandering; Bush Jr. made similar remarks when he was running, then sicced the DEA on California dispensaries. And I don't know if Johnon would siphon more votes from Romney or Obama there. But pot is in the mix in Colorado. Okay, I just looked at a Public Policy Polling poll. Without Johnson, Obama leads 49-46. With Johnson, Obama leads 46-44-5. For every two votes Johnson costs Romney, he costs Obama three. |
Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #22)
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Response to bupkus (Reply #26)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 03:04 PM
Comrade Grumpy (3,356 posts)
33. Hmmm, yes, kind of rings a bell, don't it?
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:14 AM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
23. Who Made the Wicked Weed Illegal?
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This may be apocryphal, but I've always heard that the push to make weed illegal came from the Federal level, specifically the Treasury department when booze was being legalized needed a job. Note the first federal laws against marijuana were based on untaxed weed.
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Response to oldsarge54 (Reply #23)
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Response to bupkus (Reply #27)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:07 AM
davidthegnome (1,872 posts)
28. Added to bookmarks, will read when I have more time
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Thanks for the link.
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Response to bupkus (Reply #27)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:28 PM
bluecoat_fan (221 posts)
31. Today, because most have never seen chemo or severe pain up close.
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Last edited Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:50 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) My father-in-law and my brother-in-law both died from chemo, before the cancer could killed them. Both had tumors growing on their spine. If you have ever had back pain, that is pressure applied to your nerves. Now imagine that pain not going away, regardless of how you try to position yourself. Also imagine that pain multiplied by 10 or 100 or 1000, you pick. Now imagine your ONLY option is to use hardcore narcotics to stop that pain, which makes you really messed up, sleep the day away on your sofa, as your family watches you die.
I myself have had the jelly goo in my neck come out and press up against nerves(some like to call a herniated C6 spinal injury), so I don't have to imagine. I got it "fixed", so that stabbing knife pain is now a random pinching pain, probably due to stuff rubbing against that metal cage, plates, and screws in my neck. My throat is ALWAYS hurting, due to the surgeon entering the front of my neck and gently SHOVING my throat out of the way so he can remove the jelly goo. I do not care what ANYONE says, medical marijuana DOES stop the pain. But for me, that is no longer an option. I must now decide to destroy my liver with a lot of rum, live with pain, or move to another state. |
Response to bluecoat_fan (Reply #31)
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 08:37 AM
tabasco (18,287 posts)
25. He would support the police-prison industry to the max.
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He's a lying, cowardly piece of shit.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:11 AM
QUALITYCONTRoll (40 posts)
29. It's about 4:20
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Last edited Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:13 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Its time these Politicians put up or shut up....Lying ryan says "This is something that is not a HIGH priority of ours." What is MR Lier?
it is obvious that "many" profit from keeping "it" illegal like the legal system, alcohol producers, law enforcement big farm....and so on. .............its sad a 1st World country with 3rd world Politicians... |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:32 PM
Z_California (128 posts)
30. Playing with fire
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Being "soft on drugs" doesn't play well with the Romney/Ryan base. The Obama campaign should pounce on this and see if Mitt agrees that we should be "soft on drugs". Will hurt in Colorado, but not in other swing states.
By the way, the DOJ's war on medical cannabis has infuriated me personally, but it's election time so I'm just thinking politics. |
Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 04:23 PM
elbloggoZY27 (283 posts)
34. Just a Campaign Blip
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The fact is but not acted upon is the War on Drugs has been a grand failure. It's time to decriminalize. It's the Money & more Money.
Prostitution should be decriminalize also. I am no Ryan fan but he at least in words has the right idea especially Medical Marijuana. It will take guts to do the correct thing and very hard but the present approach is a failure. On both these subjects their are a zillion victims. It's a World Wide problem. |


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