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UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:40 AM Aug 2012

Poll: Akin still leads McCaskill after ‘legitimate rape’ comment

Source: Bayou Buzz

August 20, 2012

A poll conducted and released on Monday found that U.S. Rep. Todd Akin, who's under fire for his comments about "legitimate rape," still has an edge over Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill in Missouri's Senate race.

Public Policy Polling, a North Carolina-based Democratic polling firm, has Akin leading McCaskill by one point, 44 percent to 43 percent. That's not much different from PPP's last poll of the race, which also found Akin ahead by one point, 45 percent to 44 percent.

But Akin's sustained lead doesn't mean Missouri voters agree with what the Republican candidate said. The poll found that 75 percent say Akin's comments were inappropriate, and 79 percent say they disagree with them.

In releasing the results, PPP concluded that "GOP voters dislike McCaskill so much they're not going to vote for her no matter what their nominee does."

Read more: http://www.bayoubuzz.com/politics/us-congress/item/59070-poll-akin-still-leads-mccaskill-after-%E2%80%98legitimate-rape%E2%80%99-comment

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Poll: Akin still leads McCaskill after ‘legitimate rape’ comment (Original Post) UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 OP
I'm going to ask that you take this down bluestateguy Aug 2012 #1
One point is not a lead Scootaloo Aug 2012 #2
Until those Republican women find themselves in the privacy of the voting booth. DCKit Aug 2012 #4
I always said, The Last Democrat Aug 2012 #11
As if Republican women are any smarter than Republican men. Codeine Aug 2012 #23
Unless they arent really republicans John Frum Aug 2012 #32
That's some crummy journalism right there, yeah. alp227 Aug 2012 #9
McCaskill has to get her negatives down. That poll negligible, but others are more lopsided. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #20
I am not close to MO politics. reflection Aug 2012 #27
She acted like a Republican when she should have been a Democrat. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #28
Still Too Early ... ThePhilosopher04 Aug 2012 #3
Akins will say more damaging things because he can't help it Iliyah Aug 2012 #5
Is this a legitimate poll? adicortez Aug 2012 #6
yes, it's by Public Policy Polling (a [D]-run firm too) alp227 Aug 2012 #10
PPP is legitimate but it is too early to make much of these numbers Bjorn Against Aug 2012 #15
This is true. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #17
Didn't they say that exit polls found Scott Walker and Rozlee Aug 2012 #7
McCaskill wants him to stay in brush Aug 2012 #8
Are you serious? Akin is the gift that keeps on giving (at least from Dems' point coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #13
Still the gift brush Aug 2012 #18
Because she can beat him just on women's issues lunatica Aug 2012 #22
From 8 or 11 points to one point in two days? DavidL Aug 2012 #12
More time with his family? Mr.Bill Aug 2012 #30
People vote on party lines. Ash_F Aug 2012 #14
That's a broad brush you have there. JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #16
OK not everyone does. Ash_F Aug 2012 #29
Voting republicans really are a fucked up Ilsa Aug 2012 #19
52% of Missourians believe Obama is Muslim. That's the soup Akin comes from and swims in. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #21
Exactly. Codeine Aug 2012 #24
I agree with your assessment. Their vote is primarily fueled by racial hatred. olegramps Aug 2012 #25
If this is true, then Missouri deserves him. AngryAmish Aug 2012 #26
Thank goodness there is still a Dem, Robin Carnahan as Sec of State in MO librechik Aug 2012 #31
too early mim89 Aug 2012 #33
momentum, being what it is, will often take more time that we wish to accomplish its goals. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #34
PPP is an outlier poll that always trends positively for republicans bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #35
PPP is a Democratic pollster. former9thward Aug 2012 #36
Doesn't matter. they trend toward the republicans right along with bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #37
So now the Democratic Party is part of the anti-Obama CT. former9thward Aug 2012 #38
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. One point is not a lead
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:47 AM
Aug 2012

It's a dead heat. And the lack of change in the results even with the overwhelming lack of actual support for Akin, just gives proof to the fact that Republicans will vote for ANYTHING so long as it's not a Democrat.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
4. Until those Republican women find themselves in the privacy of the voting booth.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:59 AM
Aug 2012

Then, all bets are off.

11. I always said,
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:55 AM
Aug 2012

the reason the voting booth had curtain was so the repug could vote for the democrats and not get caught

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. As if Republican women are any smarter than Republican men.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:57 AM
Aug 2012

Please. They'll pull the R lever regardless of the filth that streams from this asshole's mouth.

 

John Frum

(12 posts)
32. Unless they arent really republicans
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:55 PM
Aug 2012

Im from the rural midwest. It's been my experience that women who are married to Republicans will say they are Republicans, but actually vote straight ticket Democrat. Just saying you are Republican keeps the peace among the rather fervernt Republican supporters.

My father is very conservative. My mother said she liked Palin and so forth when my father was around but she passingly admitted that she "had a change of heart" on her way to the polling station and voted for Obama

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
20. McCaskill has to get her negatives down. That poll negligible, but others are more lopsided.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:24 AM
Aug 2012

McCaskill has to get her negatives down. That poll negligible, but others are more lopsided.

The poll swing from 45/44 to 44/43 is negligible, as is the lead.

However, other polls showed Akin with a ten point lead, before he revealed his true beliefs and lack of intellect. Those two factors may not sway his supporters. McCaskill has higher negatives than positives and may skip going to the convention to avoid reminding Missourians about Obama who is equally intensely disliked down there.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
27. I am not close to MO politics.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:41 AM
Aug 2012

What exactly did McCaskill do that made her negatives so high? Is there anything concrete, or is it just anti-Democratic Party sentiment?

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
3. Still Too Early ...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:57 AM
Aug 2012

for this poll to have much meaning. It'll probably be at least a couple of more days before the significance of what he said sinks in and the polls catch up.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Akins will say more damaging things because he can't help it
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:59 AM
Aug 2012

He has proven to the GOP ticket that he is a liability although he was saying what many repigs believe including mini Mitt - Ryan. Comes to a debate he will make himself more of an ass.

The gopper voters might just stay home rather than vote for him.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
15. PPP is legitimate but it is too early to make much of these numbers
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:32 AM
Aug 2012

PPP is one of the most accurate polling firms, but I am sure even they would tell you not to read too much into these numbers. No matter how good the polling methodology it usually takes a few days for an event to really have a big impact on the polling. Watch the polls that come out in a couple of days, they could show a rapid shift.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
17. This is true.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:43 AM
Aug 2012

This hadn't had a chance to filter through the news cycle when that poll was taken. But then, since most Republicans only watch Fox "News"...

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
7. Didn't they say that exit polls found Scott Walker and
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:02 AM
Aug 2012

Tom Barrett running 50/50 during the Wisconsin recall election? I don't trust polling these days. And I don't trust the integrity of voting machines. I expect Akins to "win" in a landslide.

brush

(53,801 posts)
8. McCaskill wants him to stay in
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:11 AM
Aug 2012

I don't get McCaskill at all. She's asking the repugs not to force Akin out of the race. Is she that dense not to know a gift horse when it's presented to her? She's losing and she wants this repug neanderthal to STAY in the race? WTF?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
13. Are you serious? Akin is the gift that keeps on giving (at least from Dems' point
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:12 AM
Aug 2012

of view). Two weeks ago, Akin had an 8 to 11 point lead over McCaskill. That lead is now down to 1% point. IOW, a 'dead heat'.

brush

(53,801 posts)
18. Still the gift
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:35 AM
Aug 2012

I'm worried about losing her seat in the senate to Akin. There are polls saying he could still win. If he pulls out the repugs will have to scramble to find someone who will then have to start campaigning from scratch. She should then win as the repugs look like unorganized neanderthals. On the national scene Akin is still tied to Ryan because of the "legitimate rape" and personhood bills they sponsored together. The Obama campaign just has to keep that alive just as they've kept Rmoney's tax return issue alive. The president already has enough trouble getting his bills passed (see the jobs bill that was just defeated by the repugs), if we lose another senate seat if will be even harder. We need to keep and gain seats, not lose them.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
12. From 8 or 11 points to one point in two days?
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:06 AM
Aug 2012

Todd Akin will be out in 24 hours, OF, if NOT, Romney will lose some solid Republican states in November.

That's my prediction.

A Republican convention, next week, will have to spend time talking about Akin's remarks if he doesn't get forced out tomorrow.

Akin will be out by 5 PM tomorrow, retiring to "spend more time with his family".

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
14. People vote on party lines.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:14 AM
Aug 2012

It's sad but once someone links a political party, race, or nationality to their personal identity, all sense and objectivity goes out the window forever. Their minds are slaves to the 'group'.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
16. That's a broad brush you have there.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:37 AM
Aug 2012

Not everyone who joins a party becomes a mindless drone. I am a Democrat and have known more than one Dem candidate that I could not stomach, much less vote for.

Julie

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
21. 52% of Missourians believe Obama is Muslim. That's the soup Akin comes from and swims in.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:25 AM
Aug 2012

52% of Missourians believe Obama is Muslim. I think it is the highest percentage in the nation. Higher even than Alabama at 45%.

That's the soup Akin comes from and swims in.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/03/not-shocking-52-of-mississippi-gop-voters-say-obama-is-muslim/

Whatever the causes, the state of education and intellectual endeavour there has to be improved.

"Human history becomes more and more a race between education
and catastrophe", H.G. Wells, 'Outline of History'.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
24. Exactly.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:01 AM
Aug 2012

It's foolish to assume that people who vote for fucksticks like this are suddenly going to change their minds and refuse to cast a ballot over a misogynistic remark by their candidate -- they're already fucking misogynists! Even the women! He's just saying what they all really think anyway.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
25. I agree with your assessment. Their vote is primarily fueled by racial hatred.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:15 AM
Aug 2012

This is why the Southern Whites continue to vote against their own interests. They are so prejudiced they have committed economic suicide after the passage of the voters rights legislation rather than vote for another Democrat. I have extended family in the South and without exception they despise President Obama and attribute every problem from adolescent acne to hurricanes to his presidency. Believe me that they would rather live in abject poverty before backing a Democrat. Their desperate situation in many instances explains their reliance on Evangelical religious dogma that promises them justification in the next world and totally detracts them from taking constructive action to improve the plight. Just as Karl Marks observed ...religlion is the opiate of the masses.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
31. Thank goodness there is still a Dem, Robin Carnahan as Sec of State in MO
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:05 PM
Aug 2012

No Repub shenannigans this time, if we're lucky--this "tight polls" situation is begging for the Repubs to try to steal it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. momentum, being what it is, will often take more time that we wish to accomplish its goals.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:15 PM
Aug 2012

Senate candidate Claire McCaskill was behind in the polls for four days after Limbaugh trashed Michael J Fox; yet momentum, being what it is, will often take more time that we wish to accomplish its goals.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
35. PPP is an outlier poll that always trends positively for republicans
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 11:22 AM
Aug 2012

which means mccaskill is most likely AHEAD now that akin has imploded.

haha!

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
37. Doesn't matter. they trend toward the republicans right along with
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:06 PM
Aug 2012

rassmussen and gallup when all others have shown President Obama in the lead. You can go back and look at the polls on real clear politics. it's pretty easy to spot the outliers since all of the red poll results from this year are PPP, Rassmussen or Gallup. Most all else are blue.

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