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Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:23 PM

Mitt Romney Criticized By Franciscan Friars For Comments On The Poor

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON-- The Franciscan Action Network (FAN), a Catholic faith-based advocacy and civic engagement organization, is strongly criticizing Mitt Romney's recent ads and rhetoric regarding welfare programs and welfare recipients, urging him to spend some time in low-income communities.

"Our Christian tradition teaches that we are to treat the poor with dignity and to prioritize the poor in our policies as a society," the organization said in a press release on Thursday. "At a time when millions are struggling financially, it is degrading to talk about the 'dependency' of people hurting in this economy, as Gov. Romney did recently."

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FAN spokesman Lonnie Ellis told The Huffington Post that what Romney is doing is "worse than ignoring" poor people. He said Romney is essentially criticizing President Barack Obama for helping out low-income individuals. "It's saying look, 'President Obama is actually supporting poor people too much, or he's just giving a free ride to poor people,'" Ellis said. "So it's actually using poor people in a really bad way."

FAN's criticism, however, goes beyond the Romney campaign's rhetoric on welfare by condemning cuts to Pell Grants, Medicaid and Head Start programs put forth in the budget proposed by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and supported by Romney.

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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/mitt-romney-franciscan-friars-poor_n_1760580.html

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Reply Mitt Romney Criticized By Franciscan Friars For Comments On The Poor (Original post)
highplainsdem Aug 2012 OP
orwell Aug 2012 #1
truebrit71 Aug 2012 #2
ailsagirl Aug 2012 #11
part man all 86 Aug 2012 #3
ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2012 #4
RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #7
freshwest Aug 2012 #8
progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #5
freshwest Aug 2012 #9
WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2012 #15
freshwest Aug 2012 #6
yardwork Aug 2012 #10
ailsagirl Aug 2012 #12
Bossy Monkey Aug 2012 #13
kiranon Aug 2012 #14
Ken Burch Aug 2012 #16
mazzarro Aug 2012 #17
Brigid Aug 2012 #21
SoDesuKa Aug 2012 #43
Ken Burch Aug 2012 #18
warrprayer Aug 2012 #20
Brigid Aug 2012 #22
warrprayer Aug 2012 #24
Brigid Aug 2012 #30
warrprayer Aug 2012 #31
Ken Burch Aug 2012 #33
CBHagman Aug 2012 #41
warrprayer Aug 2012 #34
warrprayer Aug 2012 #19
Brigid Aug 2012 #23
warrprayer Aug 2012 #25
warrprayer Aug 2012 #28
warrprayer Aug 2012 #26
patrice Aug 2012 #27
SoapBox Aug 2012 #29
dsteve01 Aug 2012 #32
nanabugg Aug 2012 #35
DesertRat Aug 2012 #36
Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #37
LeftishBrit Aug 2012 #38
LynneSin Aug 2012 #39
SoDesuKa Aug 2012 #44
LongTomH Aug 2012 #40
Odin2005 Aug 2012 #42

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:25 PM

1. Franciscans, Nuns...

...who isn't pissed at this A-Holier-Than-Thou D-Bag.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:25 PM

2. To which Mittens replied "Franciscan Fryers? Aren't they a kind of chicken?"...

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:19 PM

11. LOL!!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:27 PM

3. "The poor have a safety net", Rmoney says as he shrinks it to fit his heir.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:28 PM

4. you might say....

MITT ROMNEY IS WAGING WAR ON RELIGION!!!!!!



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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:33 PM

7. +1

What's sauce for the goose... Right Mitt?

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:33 PM

8. A new meme, to go along with 'Romney will raise taxes!' I love it!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:31 PM

5. Good for them. They use religion in the best ways, to help the "least" of us, in biblical terms.

I was driving through Tacoma, Washington today. I live in a nearby suburb. I love to drive thru downtown Tacoma because it's beautiful in a gritty way, and I see so many different kinds of people from all walks of life. The one thing that I've noticed over the past 8 years, is how the neighborhoods are getting more and more run down, i've seen more and more street people and people who look as though they are just barely hanging on. They are getting poorer because of Bush's recession and people like Romney who engineered outsourcing to take away the jobs that could grow with a community like Tacoma. So many factories have been sold to larger corporations, or simply closed so that the mfg is now done in China. The job market has definitely improved here since 2009. At that time there were a handful of jobs listed on CraigsList (legit jobs) now there are pages of them, BUT it has not caught up to the unskilled young people who are coming out of school and have no path to college or vocational training, and for the numerous veterans whose jobs have gone to China and India.

Romney's very existence is the antipathy of America doing better as a whole. He hates poor people... The trouble with a guy like that is that he BLAMES people for their lot in life, using that "bootstrap" line that the GOP is fond of. Well, that may have been true at a different time in America's history, when all it took was working hard in order to get a home for your family, and send the kids to college or into a similar job you had when you were that age. Those days are gone. It's not enough to work hard. The jobs have been outsourced by the likes of Romney, and he blames the people left behind. He is the worst kind of business person.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:38 PM

9. Vulture capitalism literally creates the poor. Then the Randians demand they die. It's that simple.

Romney is a perfect example of that mentality. What he refuses to admit is the potential of other human beings. I guess such people as him and the Koches believe it's all about genetics or birthright. That denies so much of humanity a chance. The person who is poor, given the opportunity, can contribute to society and even Romneys by their 'God-given' talents and hard work which they are busy denying the chance to use. It's an evil waste of the creative power of the human race.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:46 PM

15. Yep.

"...using that "bootstrap" line that the GOP is fond of."


That was always one of my favorites, especially since their programs never allowed anyone except the wealthy into the damn shoe store to begin with.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:31 PM

6. 'Thank God' for those Franciscan Friars. Maybe some of the bashers will listen to them, even if...

They refuse to listen to Democrats.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:19 PM

10. The Franciscans have been looking out for the poor for more than a thousand years.

But I don't remember them wading into a political debate in the recent past. Good for them, and it shows just how far out there Romney is.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:20 PM

12. And weren't the nuns after him recently to ride on the bus instead of flying??

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:29 PM

13. "I'm a big fan of the Franciscan Friars. One of my best friends owns the team." n/t

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:33 PM

14. Can we call it "Romney's war on religion"?

Imagine his defense will be - "What do you think I am, a Christian?" (Said with tongue in cheek.)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:34 PM

16. In other news, Bain Capital has launched a hostile takeover attempt on the Franciscan Order.

If successful, all remaining U.S. Franciscan monasteries and missions will be outsourced to Bangalore. Layoffs will be imposed effective this Christmas Eve.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:40 PM

17. Oh oh! the bishops are not going to stand for this!

The hammer will likely come down on the Franciscan Order soon at the behest of Vatican!

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Response to mazzarro (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:12 PM

21. Even if that happened . . .

I doubt the friars would be intimidated. I seem to recall that they spoke out in support of the nuns who were being chastised by the Vatican recently. I think they have more moral authority than the bishops or the Vatican these days. And there are probably very few, if any, Franciscans in the heirarchy of the Church. There are a good number of parishes, however, that would probably close if not for the efforts ordained Franciscan priests who have taken them over as their pastors. The Franciscans are cool people.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:15 AM

43. Two American Archbishops Are Franciscans

Cardinal O'Malley of Boston and Archbishop Chaput of Philadelphia are both Franciscans.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:42 PM

18. When you get on the fightin' side of "Brother Sun", you're asking for trouble

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:05 PM

20. ... or "Sister Moon" for that matter...

... Saw the Catholic made film with the beautiful soundtrack by Donovan. I'm not particularly religious but it brought tears to my tired Irish eyes...

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:14 PM

22. What was the name of that film?

I must see it.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:21 PM

24. "Brother Sun, Sister Moon"

about St Francis and the Churches mission to the poor... sadly forgotten these days it seems. I saw it at a Catholic function. Not a dry eye in the house.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #24)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:43 PM

30. Thanks. I'm sure I can find it somewhere.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #30)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:46 PM

31. Good luck!

Saw it in the '90s, perhaps it is on C.D.?

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Response to Brigid (Reply #30)

Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:17 PM

41. Title taken, of course, from "The Canticle of the Sun," the Franciscan prayer.

You should be able to find the movie online, in VHS, or possibly on DVD.



On edit: Before the first Gulf War, Franciscan friars came to Lafayette Park (opposite the White House) to join fellow peace demonstrators.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 10, 2012, 03:47 PM

34. "Brother Sun, Sister Moon"

full movie, for free. The Story of St. Francis. Music by Donovan, 1972. Outstanding and profound.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:03 PM

19. The right wing Catholics in my town

(and I am one) have been trying to shove it down everyones throat that "if you're Catholic you can't vote for Obama. Thanks so much, High Plains. I'm going to brain them with this.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:17 PM

23. Said RW Catholics . . .

Need to read the Gospels more closely.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:26 PM

25. Ratzinger

just appointed a new Bishop to replace Donald Trautman. The dean of Mercyhurst College invited Hillary Clinton to speak during the campaign. Trautman retaliated by having his small band of abortion nuts picket the speech. (thousands turned out in 15 degree weather in whipping winds to see Hillary, I sttod in line for 2 hours freezing to death.) Trautman got about 50 protesters to show up who were eventually told to leave by Secret Service for taunting those standing in line. Trautman boycotted Mercyhursts graduation that year to put the icing on the cake. These morons are intractable.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:30 PM

28. Our newly appointed Bishop

... is from this parish in Greensburgh. Lets us know what we're in for... more of the same.

http://ncronline.org/news/faith-parish/greensburg-bishop-denies-womens-order-recruitment-request

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:27 PM

26. Hillary

... had a hard time making her speech. Every time she started to talk the hall erupted in thunderous applause.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:29 PM

27. REALLY dig that meme: Romney is using the poor. Insanely wealthy man takes advantage of the poorest

amongst us.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:43 PM

29. Just when you think Mittens cannot offend anyone else...

He does it!

Just keep talking Mittens...PLEASE, just keep talking!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:20 PM

32. Mitt Romney is a crook!

God save us from his Wrath!

Got an interesting article about him at the blog in my signature line

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:21 AM

35. Well Romney just doubled down with Paul Ryan has his VP pick. nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 02:23 AM

36. kick

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:00 AM

37. knr

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:22 AM

38. kick

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:59 AM

39. That's the thing about Catholics, these are not uber right-wing nut jobs

I mean yes, they are anti-choice but many true Catholics are also anti-death penalty and anti-war. To them it's a 'Thou shall not kill' thing. I live in a very catholic neighborhood and you'd be hardpressed to find one of them who votes republican, but then again I live in a blue state and very blue city.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #39)

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:53 AM

44. Meet Charlie Chaput, Right Wing Nut Job

Franciscan friar Charles Chaput, the archbishop of Philadelphia, is about as far to the right as nut jobs get. Benedict put Chaput into Philadelphia because Pennsylvania is a swing state which could easily go right wing. In 2004 Chaput declared it "sinful" for Catholics to vote for John Kerry. Chaput is also the author of the book Render Unto Caesar, which calls on Catholics to vote their beliefs; i.e., against gay marriage and against abortion.

As reported by EWTN, Chaput has criticized what he views as a "spirit of adulation bordering on servility" that exists towards Barack Obama, remarking, "in democracies, we elect public servants, not messiahs." The archbishop states that Obama tries to mask his record on abortion and other issues with "rosy marketing about unity, hope, and change." Chaput also dismissed the notion that Obama was given a broad mandate, reasoning he was elected to "fix an economic crisis" and not to "retool American culture on the issues of marriage and the family, sexuality, bioethics, religion in public life, and abortion."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Chaput




"It's a sin to vote for John Kerry"

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Aug 12, 2012, 09:10 PM

40. My late sweetheart Jeanne, was a devout Catholic who believed in the social justice teachings....

...of her church. Her brother, who preceeded her in death by a few months, was a lay Franciscian. I don't think Jeanne, or her brother, would approve of Ryan/Romney!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:13 AM

42. St. Francis was the first Tree-Hugger.

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