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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 12:54 AM Mar 2017

Trump Said to Issue Far-Reaching Reversal of Obama Climate Push

Source: Bloomberg

President Donald Trump is set to sign a sweeping executive order on Tuesday aimed at promoting domestic oil, coal and natural gas by reversing much of his predecessor’s efforts to address climate change.

The document lays out a broad blueprint for the Trump administration to dismantle the architecture that former President Barack Obama built to combat the phenomenon, according to details shared with Bloomberg News. Some of the changes would happen immediately, while others would take years to complete.

The order will compel federal agencies to quickly identify any actions that could burden the production or use of domestic energy resources, including nuclear power, and then work to suspend, revise or rescind the policies unless they are legally mandated, are necessary for the public interest or promote development.

It also will toss out two Obama-era directives that gave consideration of climate change a prominent role in federal rule making. One advised government agencies to factor climate change into environmental reviews, such as those governing where oil drilling should take place. The other, called the “social cost of carbon,” is a metric reflecting the potential economic damage from climate change that was used by the Obama administration to justify a suite of regulations.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-26/trump-said-to-issue-far-reaching-reversal-of-obama-climate-push

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Trump Said to Issue Far-Reaching Reversal of Obama Climate Push (Original Post) Zorro Mar 2017 OP
President Hugh Jass. dchill Mar 2017 #1
All destruction, all the time. jaysunb Mar 2017 #2
I saw this headline and that was my first though too. chowder66 Mar 2017 #18
Yep RobinA Mar 2017 #21
He may not care that much.... llmart Mar 2017 #22
Complete jackass full of ignorance...nt wcmagumba Mar 2017 #3
Executive Orders can legally be overturned Samantha Mar 2017 #4
this man will cost us trillions. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2017 #7
Perhaps it is both Samantha Mar 2017 #8
I never thought I would support defacto7 Mar 2017 #5
DDT? The insecticide Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #15
Yes.. I lack new creative ways defacto7 Mar 2017 #19
which court do we go to? n/t SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2017 #6
This is depressing. There's already an oil glut on the market, anyway. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #9
Well, that at least will help offset this a bit. Hortensis Mar 2017 #10
More about that: mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2017 #24
Will Pay More (Maybe) modrepub Mar 2017 #11
Oil and coal executives will whine to 45* about everything they don't like, 45* will oblige them groundloop Mar 2017 #12
So it's NOT in the Public Interest to save the environement in which we live???? bitterross Mar 2017 #13
Site to find a March For Science near you, Earth Day April 22 Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #14
ugggg and Feds will use their online open comment format that's difficult to use & requires your Sunlei Mar 2017 #16
republicans pervert common sense Achilleaze Mar 2017 #17
WashPost: Trump moves decisively to wipe out Obamas climate-change record riversedge Mar 2017 #20
Vindictive little prick... llmart Mar 2017 #23

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
18. I saw this headline and that was my first though too.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

They don't have any positive ideas. They just want to demolish shit in their quest to enrich themselves.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
21. Yep
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:01 AM
Mar 2017

I kind of don't get his obsession with Obama. I mean, Trump isn't your garden variety hater Repub Congressman who has been vowing to stop Obama for 8 years. He never really ran against Obama for anything, so there isn't the "retribution on the enemy" thing. The only thing Obama ever did to Trump was be born in the US. And I never quite got his original drive to prove Obama wasn't born here. Trump normally isn't one to go after things that don't affect him personally. Somehow I don't see Obama as even a blip on the Trump radar, seeing as how that radar is normally only sensitive to personal threats. Real or perceived.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
22. He may not care that much....
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:26 AM
Mar 2017

but he's fully aware of who/what his remaining few supporters want. He's childish/petulant/vindictive.

Don't try to use rational thought on irrational behavior. It's a waste of energy. It's not something you can figure out. He's a damaged individual and has been all of his life. I bet there are a lot of dirty secrets in his upbringing.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. Executive Orders can legally be overturned
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 01:32 AM
Mar 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order_(United_States)

In 1935, the Supreme Court overturned five of President Franklin Roosevelt's executive orders (6199, 6204, 6256, 6284, 6855). Executive Order 12954, issued by President Bill Clinton in 1995, attempted to prevent the federal government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll; a federal appeals court subsequently ruled that the order conflicted with the National Labor Relations Act, and invalidated the order.[21][22]

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it. Congress can also refuse to provide funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or to legitimize policy mechanisms. In the case of the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event, due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers vulnerable to political criticism.[23]

On July 30, 2014, the Republican-led House of Representatives approved a resolution authorizing Speaker of the House John Boehner to sue President Barack Obama over claims that he exceeded his executive authority in changing a key provision of the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare&quot on his own[24] and over what Republicans claimed had been "inadequate enforcement of the health care law", which Republican lawmakers opposed. In particular, Republicans "objected that the Obama administration delayed some parts of the law, particularly the mandate on employers who do not provide health care coverage".[25] The suit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on November 21, 2014.[26]


Maybe Congress should start thinking about this....

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
8. Perhaps it is both
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mar 2017

along with a few other deleterious traits.... Greed, for instance, comes to mind.

Sam

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. I never thought I would support
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 01:45 AM
Mar 2017

other countries taxing, surcharging or setting tarifs on imports of US products or money transactions, but I do now. If DDT gets his way and congress allows it I hope countries who follow global warming protocol cabon tax us to hell.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
15. DDT? The insecticide Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane?
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:01 AM
Mar 2017

DJT is #45. Is that who you mean?

Дональд Джон Трамп (Donald John Trump)

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
19. Yes.. I lack new creative ways
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 12:50 PM
Mar 2017

to lambast Drumph. I thought DDT was a good analogy with the word "his" claifying the intent within the context of the OP. There aren't enough words to express my disgust. Maybe next time dDT.
DDT - Banned chemical know to cause many human ailments including genetic maladies, birth defects and fatal diseases... sound like trump's calling card.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. This is depressing. There's already an oil glut on the market, anyway.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:02 AM
Mar 2017

The price of oil is in the gutter because of too much oil on the market. Price of oil is good in many ways, but it's a big piece of our economy, and the low price of oil is killing the oil companies. Even Exxon is having difficulty.

I guess this means smog will start building up again, and the waterways and lakes will get even worse than they are now.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Well, that at least will help offset this a bit.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:31 AM
Mar 2017

Sickening, but meanwhile, China, the other largest potential climate-problem nation, is reportedly going ahead with its planned reductions. Most of them, anyway.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
11. Will Pay More (Maybe)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:46 AM
Mar 2017

Ha! Coal and nuclear power are more expensive than gas right now. The net effect of more power from these sources is higher electric rates, especially for residential consumers. More oil to market will suppress prices unless there is an uptick in demand. Low or falling oil prices are going to swallow lots of investment money just like it did in 2014 and 2015.

Do your part to fight this by doing more with less (energy).

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
12. Oil and coal executives will whine to 45* about everything they don't like, 45* will oblige them
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:58 AM
Mar 2017

And naturally it will all be in the name of "saving jobs".

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
13. So it's NOT in the Public Interest to save the environement in which we live????
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:30 AM
Mar 2017

Seriously, if we can't breathe the air, drink the water or we have to more and more deal with drought, wildfires and drastic weather then we're pretty much screwed.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. ugggg and Feds will use their online open comment format that's difficult to use & requires your
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:04 AM
Mar 2017

name address they won't promise to keep from public view. All because special interests (corporations) want to frack away in fragile deserts-in drought states using lots of water. Mine the filthy & cheap tar sands/tar shale in states like Utah. For oil sludge to make? plastic bags?

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
20. WashPost: Trump moves decisively to wipe out Obamas climate-change record
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:35 AM
Mar 2017

Some days I just feel hopeless for Mother Earth.




Trump moves decisively to wipe out Obama’s climate-change record



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-moves-decisively-to-wipe-out-obamas-climate-change-record/2017/03/27/411043d4-132c-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-banner-main_climateorder%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.cf1d6463ed10



By Juliet Eilperin and Brady Dennis March 27 at 11:01 PM

A view of a power plant in New York, N.Y. President Trump’s executive order will tell the EPA to begin rewriting the 2015 regulation that limits greenhouse-gas emissions from existing power plants. (Justin Lane/EPA)

President Trump will take the most significant step yet in obliterating his predecessor’s environmental record Tuesday, instructing federal regulators to rewrite key rules curbing U.S. carbon emissions.

The sweeping executive order also seeks to lift a moratorium on federal coal leasing and remove the requirement that federal officials consider the impact of climate change when making decisions.

The order sends an unmistakable signal that just as President Barack Obama sought to weave climate considerations into every aspect of the federal government, Trump is hoping to rip that approach out by its roots.

“This policy is in keeping with President Trump’s desire to make the United States energy independent,” said a senior administration official who briefed reporters on the directive Monday evening and asked for anonymity to speak in advance of the announcement. “When it comes to climate change, we want to take our course and do it in our own form and fashion.”................

llmart

(15,536 posts)
23. Vindictive little prick...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:39 AM
Mar 2017

God, I have never hated anyone like I hate this asshole. What a petty person - hell, I hesitate to call him a person.

This country needs him out of there as soon as possible and all of us have to keep the pressure on and resist, resist, resist.

Welcome back black lung disease - yeehaw! Even Nixon cared about the environment. I'm old enough to remember the first Earth Day. This year's Earth Day should be a massive protest on the order of the Women's March.

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