Thousands expected to march to protest nuclear power today

[bananas]

Source: Taipei Times

The nation’s annual march against nuclear power plants is to be held today, with activists on Thursday calling for more openness and civic participation in crafting a nuclear waste disposal plan.

“We have to keep the pressure on the government, otherwise it will stall — our hope is that there should be a result by the conclusion of the Democratic Progressive Party’s (DPP) four years in power,” Green Citizens’ Action Alliance secretary-general Tsuei Su-hsin (崔愫欣 said while leading more than a dozen people in a protest outside the Legislative Yuan in Taipei.

People plan to congregate on Ketagalan Boulevard this afternoon for the march, a major annual environmental demonstration.

“This will be our first march since the DPP took full control (of the government) and there are a lot of issues — from retiring nuclear reactors to transitioning to different forms of energy — where we feel there is a need for society to rigorously inspect whether the government has sufficient political resolve,” Tsuei said.

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Read more: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2017/03/11/2003666562

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Liberals are against it? Trump is therefore now for it.

[snooper2]

2. we need more nuclear power and billions more to help research fusion power

IETR is still kicking ass-

https://www.iter.org/newsline/-/2667


An alien shape for an awesome task
-R.A.

A component fallen from an alien star ship wouldn't look stranger than a cassette body for the ITER divertor. Depending on the angle of view, the heavy steel structure is vaguely evocative of a sled (the alien captain's seat?) or a drakkar bow. It's got ridges, dips, protrusions, curves and angles... but nothing that allows us to give it a name from our repertory of known objects.



Many things about a tokamak are extreme (vacuum, heat, cold, electromagnetic loads ...). But there is a place at the bottom of the vacuum vessel where conditions are more extreme than elsewhere ─ a place where it feels like standing at the surface of the Sun.

This explains why a cassette body for the ITER divertor does not resemble anything familiar—not only is it designed to withstand at close range the monstrous heat and radiation of a star, it must also resist the monstrous mechanical forces occasionally generated by electromagnetic loads.(1)


Cooling water piping 36 km long
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COOLING WATER PIPING 36 KM LONG

Building a Sun on Earth requires not only extensive heating systems but also large cooling systems for the removal of plasma heat from the tokamak. Fabrication of tokamak cooling water system piping is now underway at Schulz Xtruded Products in Robinsville and Hernando, Mississippi (US), with management oversight by the US Domestic Agency and the ITER Organization.

[Tikki]

3. We need NO more nuclear power and we need a way to clean the sh*t up....

Over 60 years the waste has been percolating in the ground under Hanford..

and people are still at danger.


Tikki

[snooper2]

4. Fusion is the way of the future- Fusion power from stars will take us to the stars

[Tikki]

5. You and I will be long gone and that sh*t will still be soiling the World.

I am still waiting on the magic glass they were going to make out of the waste...the glass
that could be used for your home's windows.



Tikki

[NNadir]

7. It is ignorant and stupid to refer to used nuclear fuel as waste.

Of course, since you know nothing at all about the chemistry of nuclear fuels, you insist that it is "waste." This is probably because you live in a bourgeois culture of waste and can't think very deeply on a subject you care to learn nothing about.

I've been studying used nuclear fuels for more than 30 years in the primary scientific literature, using much of my free time to do so. I have a very different opinion than you do.

It would be interesting if the assholes carrying on about so called "nuclear waste" gave a shit about dangerous fossil fuel waste, which is not subject to the equilibrium conditions described in the Bateman Equation, but can in fact, accumulate indefinitely, and is accumulating indefinitely. As of this morning, the last weekly reported concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere has risen to 407.37.

One of the interesting things about the asses who complain insipidly about "shit still staining" the world as evoked here about nuclear fuel, is their selective attention.

Since they hate science because they don't know any, and hate engineering since they can't do any, they engage in selective attention that actually kills people. They seem to believe it's simple to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, hundreds of billions of tons of it. That's nonsense. Climate change is rapidly destroying the entire biosphere while they sit on their asses musing about glass, in this case.

The death toll from air pollution, as reported in the comprehensive survey of mortality published in the scientific journal Lancet is seven million people per year.

A comparative risk assessment of burden of disease and injury attributable to 67 risk factors and risk factor clusters in 21 regions, 1990–2010: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010 (Lancet 2012, 380, 2224–60: For air pollution mortality figures see Table 3, page 2238 and the text on page 2240.)

Interestingly, this paper which surveys pretty much every major cause of human mortality caused by environmental factors, both occupational and general, as well as lifestyle choices, doesn't even list the storage of used nuclear fuel.

Now. If used nuclear fuel were waste - it's not but if it were - it would remarkable as a form of energy waste only inasmuch as it hasn't killed anyone. Not so biomass, coal, oil and gas waste.

If one actually cared about future generations - and the people issuing idiotic platitudes about how nuclear "waste" lasts millions or thousands or similar illiterately raised time periods clearly don't give a shit - they might be bothered so much as to open a science book.

But that's not what they do. They sit on their asses and repeat mindless propaganda they pick up on websites that validate their stupidity and issue platitudes.

Nuclear energy, including the reservoirs of stored nuclear fuel, which is a tremendous resource, is the last best hope of the human race.

Opposing nuclear energy is just, in my opinion, evil and stupid.

[NNadir]

6. That's interesting since many of the seven million people who DIE each year from air pollution...

...live in Asia.



Nature: China's annual air pollution deaths now stand at 1.4 million per year.

The contribution of outdoor air pollution sources to premature mortality on a global scale (Nature 525, 367–371 (17 September 2015)

Pretty much every single one of these deaths is preventable, inasmuch as nuclear energy saves lives as was demonstrated - to the disgust of anti-nuke fear mongers who couldn't give a shit about human lives, especially when it conflicts with their contempt for science and engineering - by the climate scientist Jim Hansen: Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

It is, of course, regrettably easy to get people to march against their own interests. This is why so many of the people who will suffer the consequences of Trumpism actually showed up at rallies for him.

They were motivated by fear and ignorance, just as the people responsible for seven million air pollution deaths each year every year, every decade and for what remains of the the centuries to come, the moral Lilliputians in the anti-nuke industry, fond as mindless dogma as they are, are so motivated.

Basically, their ignorance equates with murder. Evil depends on bad thinking, and every person who marches against nuclear energy is engaging in bad thinking.

Have a nice weekend.