UPDATED: Report: Obama 'Livid' Over Trump Tweets

[DonViejo]

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Source: The Daily Beast

Former President Obama is livid with anger about President Trumps latest accusations of wiretapping and hasnt returned the new commander in chiefs phone calls since the inauguration, according to a new report in The Wall Street Journal. Trump reportedly called his predecessor to thank him for the letter he left in the Oval Office but that overture was never returned. Trump tweeted on Saturday: How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy! He has since provided no evidence for his claims. Sources close to Obama told the Journal that the former president was angry over the accusation. Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said the apparently fraught relationship is a break with tradition. There are these kinds of things that have happened in the past, but nothing to the degree where a sitting president would charge his predecessor with a felony, Brinkley said. It creates a feeling of instability in the United States.


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UPDATE(S):

Felony Accusation Puts New Strain on Obama-Trump Relationship

By Margaret Hartmann

March 8, 2017
12:23 a.m.

Since Election Day, President Trump has often seemed torn between his passion for pushing Obama conspiracy theories and his excitement that the leader of the free world was being nice to him. Days after his Oval Office meeting with the Kenyan-born founder of ISIS, Trump told 60 Minutes that Obama is terrific and they have great chemistry. A month later, Trump tweeted that Obama was undermining his transition, but claimed hours later, We talked about it and smiled about it. Then in early February, Trump bragged to Bill OReilly that he and Obama get along, I dont know if hell admit this, but he likes me. I like him.

But Obama seems to be having a hard time laughing off his successors evidence-free claim that he personally ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower. The Wall Street Journal [link:https://www.wsj.com/articles/rapport-between-donald-trump-barack-obama-crumbles-1488941082?mode2twpreports]:

[div class"excerpt"]Keeping a low profile in post-presidency, Mr. Obama had decided he wouldnt respond to every intemperate Trump tweet, an aide said.

But he was livid over the accusation that he bugged the Republican campaign offices, believing that Mr. Trump was questioning both the integrity of the office of the president and Mr. Obama himself, people familiar with his thinking said.

Trump is reportedly having second thoughts about hurling felony accusations as well though he still thinks Obama and his allies are working to undermine him. It appears the source of Trumps claim is an old, sketchy British report on a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign, which was distorted as it passed through conservative media. According to the New York Times, Trump also appeared to be confused about certain presidential powers:

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/obama-trump-relationship-strained-by-felony-accusation.html

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Report: Obama ‘rolled his eyes’ at wiretap claim — and ripped Trump’s failing presidency instead

DAVID EDWARDS
08 MAR 2017 AT 12:29 ET

President Barack Obama reportedly “rolled his eyes” when he was asked about President Donald Trump’s wiretapping allegations.

According to NBC’s Peter Alexander, the former president was more concerned about Trump’s failing presidency than he was about the baseless accusations that Trump was illegally wiretapped during the 2016 presidential campaign.

“A source close to the former president tells NBC News Mr. Obama ‘rolled his eyes”” in reaction to Trump’s evidence-free claims, Alexander Link to tweet
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The source noted that Obama believes Trump “undermines the integrity of the office of the president” by making false accusations. But Obama was not worried about his own legacy because “he didn’t do it,” the source said.

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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/report-obama-rolled-his-eyes-at-wiretap-claim-and-ripped-trumps-failing-presidency-instead/

[doc03]

1. I think Obama should demand a presidential address to the nation in prime time

or sue his ass for every cent he has. That's what Trump would do.

[lunatica]

16. President Obama has too much decency and class to copy Trump in anything

What "Trump would do" is not something to emulate.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. "Living well is the best revenge."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Herbert

He shouldn't be livid, because every morning when he wakes up, he's not ****** *****.

[Delmette2.0]

5. Yes, just go on and enjoy his life.

President Obama should ignore him and let 45 suffer the consequences.

[tazkcmo]

8. Will ignoring him bring about consequences?

When does Shitgibbon stop getting a free pass? He's been flinging shit since he started running and the only consequence he's faced is getting elected.

At some point the high road has an exit ramp that leads to justice. Pres Obama needs to take that exit and "consequence" this fool back to the stone age where he belongs.

[Fred Sanders]

9. Lot of low count posters suggesting we ignore Trump's clear insanity or

some kind of insane and violent solution. Wonder who they are?

[notdarkyet]

21. I'm a low count poster, just signed up a couple months ago. We need to

Get rid of everyone in to cabinet and sycophants and start over. America deserves better.

[ColemanMaskell]

32. Yes, that "low count poster" remark is itself rather low --

It's ad hominem argument: If you can't find -- or are too lazy to express -- a legitimate refutation of what someone is saying, just take a snipe at the person rather than reply to the message itself.

For my own opinion, I'd say a man of the calibre of Obama is well able to figure out for himself when to respond to the infantile ravings of the twiddler and when to walk away. But then, I'm rather low count myself.

[mopinko]

39. meh, it's the truth.

we get all manner of troll here. concern trolls think they are clever, but at this point most of the old timers here can name that tune in 1 note.

dont take offense. we keep our eyes peeled, and we need to.

[ColemanMaskell]

50. So this is how you rack up those high counts? Sharing such insights?

Wow.

[LanternWaste]

53. Responding in kind to such insights seems to be as effective as well.

"So this is how you rack up those high counts? Sharing such insights?"

Responding in kind to such insights seems to be as effective as well. However, we often rationalize in ourselves that which we indict in others...

[Demit]

48. I suppose you were never a low count poster.

[Fred Sanders]

59. Difference is, when I was, I did not advise DU to ignore the stunning insanity of Republicans.

See the difference?

[True Blue American]

61. I am a low count poster

But never said a word about ignoring Trump's insanity.

I did post that President Obama should ignore him.

However I want the Media,the Congress,a Special Prosecutor to keep on the job until they fully expose every rotten thing Trump has done,or is doing.

Many of us were cut during the problems with the board and had to get back on.

[NewJeffCT]

10. The other Republicans running for the nomination

ignored him at first until Trump's lead kept growing and growing. Implosion was predicated after every outrageous statement or tweet (Mexicans are rapists, McCain's not a hero, etc) and it never happened.

[ColemanMaskell]

34. Yeah. Amazing that. Makes you wonder how his electoral success was accomplished.

[NewJeffCT]

37. as bad as Romney and McCain were

they did not pander to racism nearly as much as Trump. Romney had one comment where he joked about not needing a birth certificate and was panned for it... McCain said Obama was a good person and I only remember the veiled racism from Palin, who had the negative of being a woman.

So, those rural white voters that stayed home for Romney and McCain turned out en masse for Trump

[ColemanMaskell]

54. McCain was born in Panama

and there was a little bit of talk about hypothetical eligibility issues over that at the time, so he would not want to make an issue of birthplace other than to joke about it. (His father was U.S. gov't and travelled due to that.) McCain is one of the more reputable of the Republicans, though; I don't mean to imply he would have sunk to such depths if he'd been born back home. In fact, he stood up for Obama when a voter brought up a question about whatever she'd heard about Obama's (imaginary) ties to - uh - nefarious contemporary Middle Eastern philosophical positions. McCain seemed shaken by it and was quick to stop it in its tracks, saying Obama was "a good family man" and so on. On balance McCain is one of the more honest politicians on the national scene.

Neither is Romney a credible example of evil; he did, after all, sign in the creation of Romneycare, the Massachusetts-specific "Obamacare Light".

I disagree fundamentally with Romney and McCain's political philosophy, but on balance they are in no way objectively worse than average, morally and ethically, compared to other prominent politicians. The Dems, after all, can claim Anthony Weiner, Rod Blagojevich, and similar luminaries.

Trompe is in a class by himself as far as campaign rhetoric and tactics. Endorsed by the KKK Newspaper? Really? Admires Vladimir Putin? Apparently doesn't understand the distinction between reality and imagination? Advocates locking up his political opponents (and even suggests a possibility of "2nd amendment" solutions)? Refuses to pay contractors, spawned Trump "University", grabs women shamelessly, intrudes on the dressing room at the Miss Teen USA pageant, profits from businesses that are profiting from his presidency, the list goes on longer than ... well, it's a long list.

The nicest thing I can think to say about Trompe is that his father had Alzheimer's and it's hereditary, so there's some chance that some of his behavior might be due to real physical medical causes.

Speaking of his father and of racism, incidentally, his father Fred was immortalized in a Woody Guthrie song, "Old Man Trump", lyrics at this link: http://woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Old_Man_Trump.htm -- it contains such straightforward phrases as "Old Man Trump knows just how much racial hate he stirred up " --

So of course, yeah, if a white racist is thinking about getting out to vote, who better than Trompe to inspire him? Especially after that KKK newspaper with the big endorsement lands on his front lawn.

The site with the "Old Man Trump" lyrics also notes:
- The recorded version of this song is available on iTunes.
- Ryan Harvey's YouTube Video

[Kimchijeon]

46. Not sure, seems like

a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

If President Obama does anything, the dumptrolls will loudly fling more shit, and scream in glee for the distraction.
If he does nothing, Shitgibbon gets another free pass and no consequence.

Frankly I would like him to get consequences, dire ones like being charged with treason, and prison. He deserves no less.
Not just verbal no-nos and finger wagging. He needs to be properly disciplined, he fucked up.

[Merlot]

20. Ignore slander and charges of committing a felony?

good plan.

[mitch96]

51. tRump needs a target, a opponent

ANYTHING to get the spotlight off the russian thing, the illegitimate pres thing... the "you don't like me" thing...
m

[bigbrother05]

49. If he let's this pass, how much worse will it get

Obama can take care of himself, but he cares about where the US ends up for all of us.

[randome]

3. It's difficult to imagine Obama angry, much less livid.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[MBS]

13. My sense is that it takes a lot to get him angry

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But that when he does get angry, it's for real, it's well-founded, and it's richly deserved. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that anger.

[JudyM]

25. Well, he's being slandered... bet you anything that now he's wishing he *had* put in a "tapp."

[randome]

35. He's black and hated by far too many for that alone.

He can't possibly live up to the Superman-like reputation he has for never responding without restraint, yet I still tend to (unfairly) see him that way. It's good to remember he's human like the rest of us, though.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[JudyM]

36. He has remarkable emotional balance, so classy. We've gone from one extreme to the other.

[ColemanMaskell]

38. That was my immediate response! Moderately angry perhaps. Livid? Hyperbole.

They do say revenge is a dish best served cold, though. If Obama is angry, he may be waiting until he's calmer to respond. Wow. I would not want to be on the wrong side of Obama. Obama's a nice guy, and perhaps Trompe makes the mistake many simplistic-minded people do, misinterpreting niceness as weakness. Well, gotta go get some popcorn then . . .

[Mars and Minerva]

4. It creates a feeling of instability in the United States.

Wake up WSJ! The U.S. now is unstable!

[Lotusflower70]

6. I don't blame him

If he were livid. He left all that garbage behind or so he thought when he left the White House. So to have his name dragged through the mud would be frustrating. He deserves to be happy and left alone.

[Mad-in-Mo]

7. When they go low,

we go high..... per Michele. Best ever.

[tazkcmo]

11. To a point.

He's crossed a line here by accusing one our most successful and internationally respected presidents in all of our history of committing a felony with not one shred of evidence. Taking the "high road" (which is still illegal in most of the country! lol) at this point is a sign of weakness, imo.

HRC's a felon. Obama's a felon. Who next? When is he stopped?

[Mad-in-Mo]

27. I agree.

Everyone who doesn't speak out against Trump is an enabler. I think Obama is in a precarious position though. I'm so sick of Trump!!!

[DinahMoeHum]

28. Fuck that. When they go low, we should go high. AND. low.

In football, it's called the chop-block. Look it up.

[adigal]

60. Yeah, that worked out really well for us. Maybe it's ok for Barack and Michelle, but us?

No. Trump needed to be kicked to the curb. Go high?? What bullshit.

[True Blue American]

12. Advice To President Obama

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Ignore Trump as if he does not exist. Enjoy yourself and your family.
That will make you look like what you are.The adult in the room.

Karma always comes. It is a bitch.

Trump has already sunk into the mud.

[Merlot]

23. Me thinks you don't really understand how karma works...

or how repubs will stop an nothing to undermine a successful democrat with fake investigations, lies, and innuendo.

[47of74]

29. Yes the advise to ignore someone might work in normal times.

But this is not a normal time. We have an Orange Toxic Megacolon who is doing everything he can to destroy this country, and ignoring him will not make him grow up or behave like a decent human being.

[True Blue American]

41. The more Obama Answers to

Trump the worse it will be. Ignoring him as if he were an insect will really annoy him.

And,yes,I am very aware how Karma works. You do not argue with a low life like Trump. Ignoring him works.

[PatrickforO]

14. It's more than a feeling of instability. The REAL story is that by making this accusation,

Trump is telling us that the Justice Department and our nation's security people felt there was probable cause to ask a federal judge for a wiretapping warrant.

Because Obama, an upright, moral, genuinely good man who saved us from a worldwide depression, put policies in place that made the nation better, presided over the hugest economic recovery in history, got bin Laden, and actually DID keep us safer, made it through eight years of being President of the United States without any scandal would SURELY have done a wiretap correctly.

And you know what? If a sitting lame-duck president hears that one of the presidential campaigns to replace him has been actively working with a hostile power to shift the outcome of the election, then it is his job to have the FBI or the NSA seek a wiretapping warrant.

So Obama has done nothing wrong, and the baby-man Trump is starting to circle the proverbial drain.

[TBA]

15. The only way to deal with malignant narcissism is to decline to engage.

Apparently Obama has figured this out.

[Merlot]

26. Maybe that works on a personal level

but in politics and on the national stage, letting an unproven accusation stand is tantamount to accepting it.

[RobinA]

31. I Don't See

what Obama could possibly do that would remedy this situation. He is now a private citizen. I would agree with you if Trump were saying the DNC had wiretapped him. Go after him with all barrels blazing. But Obama...go body surf in Hawaii.

[Merlot]

33. Go body surf in Hawaii?

okey dokey. gatcha.

[TBA]

58. I agree...

I totally meant on a personal level.

[True Blue American]

43. Yes,Obama is

A Constitutional Lawyer. He knows exactly what to do.

[harun]

52. Wish the press would figure it out

[lunatica]

17. Well there are a whole lot of us who are also pissed off about this

But I think that Trump should have all the rope he wants. Sooner or later....

[pangaia]

18. " Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said ...."

" Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said the apparently fraught relationship is a break with tradition. “There are these kinds of things that have happened in the past, but nothing to the degree where a sitting president would charge his predecessor with a felony,” Brinkley said. “It creates a feeling of instability in the United States.” "

Well, thanks Mr Historian. What would we EVER do without such brilliant teaching??

I just really had NO idea....

[orleans]

19. i've been wondering what set trump off

(on edit: other than he's just fucking nuts)
and maybe he felt snubbed because of this:
"Trump reportedly called his predecessor to thank him for the letter he left in the Oval Office but that overture was never returned. "

maybe he's called obama more than once and obama hasn't called him back?

[yallerdawg]

22. He watches Fox News and reads rightwing sites like Breitbart and Infowars.

His point is, these are 'fair and balanced' and all the rest of media are propaganda tools for Obama/Hillary!

His base agrees!

[True Blue American]

62. Trump listened to the idiot

Named Levin on his radio show.

I know every ones says he does not drink or do drugs, but something sets him off every Saturday night and early Sunday morning. He is always at MarA Lago.

What happens to him during that period of time? Trump manages to perform marginally the rest of the time.

[notdarkyet]

24. Read he came across the tapping info on his crazy radio guys show.

[yardwork]

40. I don't believe any of the statements in this story.

I'm suspicious of this entire story. Smells like bs to me.

[ColemanMaskell]

42. Trompe's trying to draw attention away from the investigation into his Russian ties.

This is his standard Modus Operandi - create a distraction with an unfounded accusation or insult. He's close to being a one-trick pony in that regard; he relies on a limited set of tools. In this case I think he's miscalculated. Though he might be able to distract much of the news media and the public from the Russia investigation, it is not going to be so easy to distract the intelligence community. Even though, as president, he has some control over the intelligence agencies here in the USA, this issue is bigger than that. European intelligence agencies are also investigating the situation because Russia's outrageous and extensive election interference is endangering Europe as well. The Russian issue is not going to go away. Trompe is thrashing, using the limited weapons in his arsenal. It reminds me of those war movies where a single crazed soldier at a machine gun position is just firing his weapon randomly and hysterically back and forth at everything it can reach. In the movies, somebody eventually takes the guy out of action.

Obama did nothing to trigger this reaction from Trompe. The only thing Trompe has against Obama is simply to be enraged because Obama is widely loved for reasons Trompe cannot understand or imitate. But that isn't the reason for the attack. Trompe has already taken shots at everything and everyone else, he is now aiming at Obama out of desperation. He hopes that by distracting people from the investigation into his Russian ties, he can make the issue go away. In this case that isn't going to work.

Trompe is angry and frustrated, flailing, lashing out with the method he knows best, accusations and insults, hoping to make the investigation go away by creating a distraction. That's it. That's the whole reason for it.

. . . in my opinion, of course I mean to say.

[True Blue American]

44. Would not surprise me at all.

Obama is very aware of what Trump is.

Meanwhile he will be working very hard to get his ground crew working on organizing from the bottom up.

[NewJeffCT]

57. Obama mocked Trump

several years ago at the WH Correspondent's Dinner...

[rzemanfl]

30. Wall Street Journal is trumpist. n/t

[Fast Walker 52]

45. I'm skeptical about this

but I wouldn't blame Obama if it's true

[Stuart G]

47. k and r....nt

[stillcool]

55. so...who is saying this?

obviously, not Obama. From pictures I've seen, he doesn't look the least bit concerned. Donald is a troll. Some like to play that game...though I don't know why. it's a waste of time, energy, and brain cells.

[yuiyoshida]

56. Heh!