Spicer Says Religious Liberty Is Getting 'Pushed Out' By Political Correctness

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published FEBRUARY 2, 2017, 1:15 PM EDT

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said on Thursday that freedom of religion is getting "pushed out in the name of political correctness," and cited Christian organizations as examples of groups which have been silenced.

"Some Americans see religious liberty as code for discrimination," a reporter asked Spicer at a daily briefing. "Can you comment, give us a sense of how the President views this tension?"

"I think there is a line," Spicer said."I think people should be able to practice their religion, express their religion, express areas of their faith without reprisal. And I think that pendulum sometimes swings the other way in the name of political correctness."

He said that "too often" small business owners and employees are not allowed to express their faiths.

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[ananda]

1. Oh God, more code language!

This is getting ridiculous.

It absolutely is code for discrimination!

[NewJeffCT]

2. Can I start a religion

that allows me to punch out Christian conservatives and Nazis?

[Initech]

7. I would be a high priest in that religion!

[NewJeffCT]

10. We can just tell them

using alternative facts, it was really a hug

[Dave Starsky]

34. I will gladly tithe faithfully.

Where do I sign up?

[azureblue]

25. My Religion says--

I should flog those I deem as sinners. And these so called Christians ignore the teachings of Jesus.... Where's my whip.....

[NewJeffCT]

30. I wouldn't be surprised

if I lot of them like the abuse.

[msongs]

3. where is the lbn part? nothing new here nt

[Roland99]

4. No one of any religious persuasion is inhibited in believing in it, practicing it at home or...

in their church, mosque, synagogue, whatever


No one!

[Initech]

5. No it isn't you fucking idiots!!!

If religious liberty was being "pushed out", then why do we as DirectTV subscribers get 32 channels of non stop 24/7 religious programming included with our subscription, but we atheists only get one hour per week of Real Time With Bill Maher? Explain to me that, oh persecuted ones!

[Lindsay]

8. They're persecuted

if they can't force you to follow their beliefs.

But you knew that.

[Initech]

20. These thin-skinned whiny crybabies are the ones who need to grow a spine.

Until then...

[MurrayDelph]

37. Worse than that:

All of the religious crap is "bundled" into the package, so you HAVE to have them on your TV whether you watch them or not.

Maher you have to pay extra for.

[old guy]

6. Welcome to the Theocratic States of America.

Damn cristo-fascist scum.

[bdamomma]

9. yes exactly

they are playing the religious card for Christians to go after Islam. We are aware of this correct?

What if you are not a Christian you are damned? They keep on pushing don't they??? Spicer is despicable.

Spicer said some americans???

Not the majority of Americans you stupid man.

[old guy]

12. Yes, some of us are.

Unfortunately many are not but what are we to do?

[shraby]

11. What reporter asked this question? One from the new group(s) that have press passes?

[Solly Mack]

13. What claptrap

[underpants]

14. Christians just can't get a break I tell ya

It's a god damned shame

[unblock]

15. if your religion is teaching you something that's not politically correct, that should be a red flag

[bdamomma]

16. So I take this comment as

He said that "too often" small business owners and employees are not allowed to express their faiths.

small business owners and employees are not allowed to express their faiths????

so if you are not of the Christian faith they will not serve you or sell you something???

They are playing to their base and the hell with the rest of us.

[HopeAgain]

29. Apparently God will smite you if you serve gay people a piece of pizza or cater their parties.

I'll have to check my Bible and get back to you on where exactly it says that, however... don't wait up.

[bdamomma]

39. ...............

[benld74]

17. The SECOND my pastor begins a Homily with something other than the days readings

I stand up

I walk out

Period

[arithia]

18. without reprisal?

So.... the grossly negligent PA parents who recently let their 2 year old die from lack of medical care and simple pneumonia, citing it as "God's will", should just be allowed to go about their merry business?

Pro-birth nutjobs who shoot up abortion clinics should just go free because it's their "sincere religious belief" that they do so?

People should be allowed to assault gays, fire women for taking birth control, hang up signs on their businesses that say "whites only" or deny people the right to marry because that person's interpretation of a mythological sky god doesn't care for those things?

F*ck "political correctness". Freedom of religion stops at your f*cking nose- the minute someone else becomes involved they have rights too.

Religion is an invented social construct. Doctrine can be made to say anything as we are the ones writing it- and the wording of their "religious protection order" draft included language stating that it is the individuals, not the organized religions, sincerely held belief.

This will backfire. Bigly. I can already smell the Satanic Church and Pastafarian lawsuits.

[Fred Sanders]

19. I must have missed the part where the Constitution only mentions religious freedom for Christians.

[FlaGranny]

21. Nobody ever asks

the question - Does a business have the right to discriminate against an employee by denying their right to birth control which is consistent with their employee's beliefs?

[logosoco]

22. Not a religious person myself

but I thought "faith" was the idea that you believed in a God even though you could not see it or prove it? So how is telling others what to do with their bodies or who they can marry related to expressing a faith?

How can a church play the politics game and not be in on paying taxes? I have always thought that a church would want to pay taxes so their communities have good schools, roads and fire departments. A church should only be tax exempt to the point where they can show they are helping people. It is pretty obvious the megachurches aren't helping people, they are just collecting the money for themselves.

[Cryptoad]

23. Damn I hate to be one to break to ya but,,,

so called Church Organization are not Religions.........

[TexasBushwhacker]

24. "Political" correctness is still correct

They aren't being persecuted just because someone else is getting the rights they've always had. Religious liberty does not give someone the right to impose their religious beliefs on others.

[mahina]

26. This is one of their enduring internal messages. A woman told me that Christians are persecuted

In this country. She is an immigrant.

How so? Her daughter, a professor, is not allowed to talk about religion in her class.

Is she a professor of religion? No. Philosophy? No. How is she not allowed? She was asked not to go there by her dept. chair.

Are we being burned out of our churches, rounded up into camps, forbidden to go to church? No.

The victim mind is strong with these folks, because it works. Poor things.

/and I'm a Christian, though not a fundy nor a churchgoer.

[Dave Starsky]

35. She can talk about religion all she wants.

Is she allowed to espouse her own beliefs on others on the taxpayer dime? Fuck, no. Let her go door to door or stand on the street on her own time like the Jehovah's Witnesses do.

I have to give the JWs credit, because separation of church and state is actually built into their religion.

[Phoenix61]

27. Exactly what groups have been silenced?

Last time I checked you can pray anywhere, anytime, anyplace. I've even seen people pray in restaurants. I realize they want a Christian nation but the founding fathers were very, very, clear about separation of church and state.

[Dave Starsky]

38. Jesus, himself, was very clear on the subject.

"Render unto Caesar..." Matthew 22:21.

"When you pray, go into your room..." Matthew 6:6.

This is back-of-the-envelope theology. If you actually read the Bible, you will find it tells a very different story from what the fundamentalist "Christians" profess. The whole Bible presents a detailed story of people trying to get closer to God, how they failed repeatedly despite numerous attempts, and how they had a new hope when someone came along that really had it all figured out.

[Docreed2003]

28. What Spicer wants is for certain groups to have freedom to impose their religion on others....

Guess I shouldn't expect anything less from an administration that has done nothing but pander to the religious right

[Nitram]

31. "Religious liberty" is rethuglican-speak for the freedom to discriminate against...

non-Christians.

[bucolic_frolic]

32. Pushing this political correctness meme helps them dictate their own political correctness

This is a propaganda war

[BigDemVoter]

33. Oh Boo Hoo.

They can go fuck off.

[TomCADem]

36. Up is Down. Freedom equals Right to Persecute

What's next? Peace through tyranny and repression.

[adigal]

40. Here comes the Religious Freedom Act, Orwellian name for sure nt

[Skittles]

41. what is with all these pre-approved questions and canned responses

FUCK THIS PRAVDA NOISE

[Marthe48]

42. hypocrite. rabble-rouser. traitor.

go live in Russia.

[Thor_MN]

43. Spicer doesn't like political correctness, so let's honor that. Call them racist assholes.

No more "nationalist", "Alt-Right".

Fucking racist assholes.

[uppityperson]

44. "Religious liberty" does not mean you can be an asshole to select people

Calling for non-discrimination does not mean you are being discriminated against.

[MiniMe]

45. Religious Liberty means for ALL religions, not just christianity

I'm sure he means it that christians can't express their faith, but look what these asshats have done to muslims