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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:47 PM Oct 2016

Donald Trump refuses to say whether he'll accept election results

Source: CNN

"I will look at it at the time," Trump said when challenged during the final presidential debate on his claims that the election is "rigged" against him. He added: "I will keep you in suspense."

The comments at the Las Vegas showdown marked an extraordinary departure from one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy: the peaceful transfer of power after an election. The remarks were also a dramatic departure from the first hour of the debate, where Trump showed unusual restraint as he and Clinton engaged in substantial policy discussions over issues such as the Supreme Court, the Second Amendment and gun rights.

Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee who is leading Trump in most polls, said the Republican nominee's remarks were "horrifying."

"You are not up to doing the job," Clinton charged, claiming that every time events do not turn out in his favor, Trump claimed things were "rigged" against him. She highlighted Trump's past comments lamenting results of the Iowa caucuses, legal judgments against him -- even Trump's complaints when he did not win an Emmy.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/presidential-debate-highlights/

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Donald Trump refuses to say whether he'll accept election results (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2016 OP
Yeah, and the whole world will wait for his decision LOL dalton99 Oct 2016 #1
sniffles 3AM tweets should be interesting. elmac Oct 2016 #2
I don't like anything about Lyin' Ted Cruz. But, he hit the nail on the head when he said that Trust Buster Oct 2016 #3
He's got something other than conceding on his mind bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #4
Yeah.... I'm just truly baffled by this groundloop Oct 2016 #5
He's holding out hope that one of his "supporters" will deal out a second amendment solution, NBachers Oct 2016 #13
I welcome him trying to rally people to do that as it will hopefully end up with him and his fellow cstanleytech Oct 2016 #7
As long as nobody gets hurt, fine by me! nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2016 #11
Maybe Trump is hoping for his hero, a shirtless Putin, to come riding like Paul Revere.... cynzke Oct 2016 #22
He's Got RobinA Oct 2016 #26
The courts are usually unsympathetic to election litigation bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #28
Wow - what the pundits are saying! calimary Oct 2016 #6
President "Nasty Woman" doesn't need his concession. MADem Oct 2016 #8
"that guy who pouts out of an asshole planted under his nose" LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #20
Madame Nasty Woman! cynzke Oct 2016 #23
Madame President! irisblue Oct 2016 #30
Nothing Ccarmona Oct 2016 #9
Will be used to question her legitimacy hibbing Oct 2016 #10
Trump pretends to be in charge of the entire world, and meanwhile, he's just broke and living off truthisfreedom Oct 2016 #12
Amazingly, his surrogates, his proxies, his supporters, his paid pundits on CNN, are defending this Midnight Writer Oct 2016 #14
Sure they know. Sand Rat Expat Oct 2016 #18
Wow! Yeah, that was a DEFINING moment. calimary Oct 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Oct 2016 #16
Has he ever mentioned moondust Oct 2016 #17
He Could Be Trying To Set Up Future Show, "Donald Trump: The Real U.S. President" TomCADem Oct 2016 #21
Trump does not want to be President of the United States, he wants be dictator of the U.S. olddad56 Oct 2016 #19
Holding out to have the last concession, i.e. PUBLICITY cynzke Oct 2016 #24
Perhaps, Trump will wait for the dust to settle down on the down ticket results, THEN.... cynzke Oct 2016 #25
so rtracey Oct 2016 #27
He thinks this makes him sound "savvy" or "smart" but all it does ... neeksgeek Oct 2016 #29
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
3. I don't like anything about Lyin' Ted Cruz. But, he hit the nail on the head when he said that
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 10:53 PM
Oct 2016

this country has NEVER seen the likes of this kind of narcissist.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
13. He's holding out hope that one of his "supporters" will deal out a second amendment solution,
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:33 PM
Oct 2016

and he'll be swept into power.

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
7. I welcome him trying to rally people to do that as it will hopefully end up with him and his fellow
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:06 PM
Oct 2016

nutjobs serving time in prison.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
22. Maybe Trump is hoping for his hero, a shirtless Putin, to come riding like Paul Revere....
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 04:35 AM
Oct 2016

waving a new WikiLeaks memo.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
26. He's Got
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 07:59 AM
Oct 2016

keeping people hanging on his "decision" in mind. There's really not much he can do and he knows it, but he's having fun stringing everybody along in the meantime.

Litigation isn't some free space where he can waltz in and say, "That nasty woman rigged the election," and expect to go anywhere.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
28. The courts are usually unsympathetic to election litigation
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 08:16 AM
Oct 2016

but were politicized in 2000, and in some respects in maybe 10% of
jurisdictions, they are as divided policy wise as the politicians in
Washington. There are Democratic and Republican appointed judges.
I still don't think they would have much tolerance for litigation of
an election that is widely decisive.

calimary

(81,228 posts)
6. Wow - what the pundits are saying!
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:04 PM
Oct 2016

Evidently, that ONE line - "I'll look at it at the time" - just mowed down anything else he might have done that could have helped him.

"A disqualifying comment." That, from GOPers Steve Schmidt and also Nicolle Wallace.

"Unprecedented." "An unthinkable moment." "An attack on the foundational elements of democracy." "It's lights-out for him." "It swamps everything else." SHEESH. "We are so far out of normalcy on this that there are no words to describe it." "Nothing but a rout by Hillary Clinton all through here." "His coaches did a good job but they just didn't have a lot to work with."

And THEN, once again, she headed straight for the audience to say hello and shake hands and thank people for coming. He and his entourage made a beeline for their motorcade.

And then, Brian Williams cut to Hugh Hewitt, who looks like somebody just ran over his dog.
"Outside the norms of political rhetoric."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. President "Nasty Woman" doesn't need his concession.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:06 PM
Oct 2016

When the electoral college certifies the results for her, overwhelmingly, no one will give a shit about that guy who pouts out of an asshole planted under his nose.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
9. Nothing
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:19 PM
Oct 2016

But a racist dog-whistle. Donald thinks "the others" will vote 10 times each in every precinct

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
10. Will be used to question her legitimacy
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
Oct 2016

Since there won't be a phony birth certificate issue, this is what they will use.


Peace

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
12. Trump pretends to be in charge of the entire world, and meanwhile, he's just broke and living off
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:25 PM
Oct 2016

the profits of bankruptcy law.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
14. Amazingly, his surrogates, his proxies, his supporters, his paid pundits on CNN, are defending this
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:51 PM
Oct 2016

Here we are, the United States Of America, with a history of over two hundred years of Democratic elections, from the dog catcher to the President, and this F'ing Asshat, has a temper tantrum meltdown and declares to his followers and to the world at large that the whole thing is a rigged con game.

Do they know that the countries around the world, that we have been scolding to be more democratic, to hold fair elections, are watching this cry baby denounce our whole system.

Sand Rat Expat

(290 posts)
18. Sure they know.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 01:07 AM
Oct 2016

They simply don't care. It's their guy who's gone down in flames, so they have two options. One, they accept that they made a horrendous mistake in even entertaining this person's disaster of a campaign, or two, they assert that there's nothing wrong with him, it's the entire system that's rigged/broken/unfair.

The first option implies self-awareness, introspection, and maturity. Trumpanzees lack these qualities in spades. So they flip for option two, because that means they didn't make a mistake, and they get to give themselves virtuous airs for being on the right side of history.

Meanwhile, if the rest of the world looks on and is utterly aghast at this trainwreck, that's irrelevant to them. Never mind the fact that they've been saying (absurdly) that on Obama's watch the US has become a laughingstock, is no longer respected, etc.

The mental gymnastics required to be a hardcore Trumpanzee are really something, aren't they?

calimary

(81,228 posts)
15. Wow! Yeah, that was a DEFINING moment.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:55 PM
Oct 2016

I instantly thought - he just blew this election.

WHOA! That's the ballgame.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

moondust

(19,978 posts)
17. Has he ever mentioned
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:33 AM
Oct 2016

having solid evidence of past "rigging" of a U.S. election or someone's intentions to "rig" this one? Didn't think so.

He'll never grow up.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
21. He Could Be Trying To Set Up Future Show, "Donald Trump: The Real U.S. President"
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:33 AM
Oct 2016

With all of the behind the scene chatter about a new media outlet, why not use election night as a launching point catering to the alt-right fringe heading by the self-proclaim real U.S. President. The alt-right will love it, and he may get funding from Russia given the instability it could create with Trump declaring that he is effectively a President in Exile.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
19. Trump does not want to be President of the United States, he wants be dictator of the U.S.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 01:08 AM
Oct 2016

and his core supporters want to live under a dictatorship.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
24. Holding out to have the last concession, i.e. PUBLICITY
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 04:54 AM
Oct 2016

It won't matter to Americans. Usually on ELECTION NIGHT, the loser gives a concession speech, but NOT PRIMADONNA DONNIE, HE will hold off as long as he can FOR THE MEDIA ATTENTION. Suspense? More like soap opera drama. Trump is too stupid to realize he has become a braying jackass!

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
25. Perhaps, Trump will wait for the dust to settle down on the down ticket results, THEN....
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 04:59 AM
Oct 2016

Come out with a concession but blame his loss on the GOP. Rub their losses in their face. Some suggest that Trumps will spend the next years starting his own party. Trump has to have the last word. This goes back to the Press Corp. dinner a couple of years ago where Obama embarrassed and humiliated Trump in front of the world. This charade was Trump's plot for revenge....follow Obama into the White House. And he is probably already plotting his revenge on the Clintons and GOP. Jerry Falwell Jr., President of Liberty U. told some press a few days ago that Trump told him that he, Donald, believed it was the GOP who leaked that Entertainment Tonight Bus Debacle tape to the Press.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
27. so
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 08:09 AM
Oct 2016

Who cares if he accepts the results or not. Nov 9, 2016, Hillary Clinton will be the President elect of the United States, and Trump will return to his arrogant, narcissistic, sociopath life of cheating on workers, wives, and taxes....but again the question is...

WHO CARES IF TRUMP DOES NOT ACCEPT THE ELECTION RESULTS...FUCK HIM

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
29. He thinks this makes him sound "savvy" or "smart" but all it does ...
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 10:41 AM
Oct 2016

is embarrass the country and prove that he thinks he's already dictator-for-life.

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