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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:21 PM Aug 2016

Giuliani: There Were No ‘Successful Radical Islamic Terrorist Attacks’ in U.S. Before Obama

Source: Mediaite

by Josh Feldman | 2:57 pm, August 15th, 2016

Rudy Giuliani said today, “Under those 8 years before Obama came along, we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attacks in the United States. They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office.”

Rudy. Giuliani.

That Rudy Giuliani.

Now, Giuliani did mention the authorization of the Patriot Act, so it’s possible he may have been referring to from then to the end of the Bush presidency. Still, that’s a pretty odd statement to make.

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Giuliani: There Were No ‘Successful Radical Islamic Terrorist Attacks’ in U.S. Before Obama (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2016 OP
He said eight years. That specifically includes the Sept. 11 attack that killed more than 3000 pnwmom Aug 2016 #1
Don't you know all the planning happened during Clinton's watch OnlinePoker Aug 2016 #12
Nonsense. forest444 Aug 2016 #22
Your facts are wrong. hack89 Aug 2016 #34
You should read your own links, Hack 89. forest444 Aug 2016 #38
Do you understand what EDT and CDT mean? nt hack89 Aug 2016 #40
the bigger red flag for 9/11 was all the NORAD drills prior to and on 9/11 that practiced Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #61
I didn't think I really needed a sarcasm tag, but I guess I was wrong. n/t OnlinePoker Aug 2016 #37
I was pretty sure, but, yeah, sometimes to be on the safe side...! Hissyspit Aug 2016 #39
I see. My apologies, OnlinePoker. forest444 Aug 2016 #42
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #55
I guess he didn't know who was President while he was Mayor. Stonepounder Aug 2016 #19
Of course it was under Clinton's watch! Rocknrule Aug 2016 #20
He's pulled this shit before: Hissyspit Aug 2016 #41
Rudy has joined the Donny tRump "Just Make S#&% Up" alternate reality. IllinoisBirdWatcher Aug 2016 #2
Now it's "noun, verb, no 9/11" keithbvadu2 Aug 2016 #52
Yes, his speaking these days = Noun, Verb, (silence) IllinoisBirdWatcher Aug 2016 #58
Great! Saviolo Aug 2016 #3
This is one of Giuliani's greatest hits JaneQPublic Aug 2016 #4
And Obama got us into Afghanistan. Yeah, right tonyt53 Aug 2016 #5
Who the hell keeps inviting this asshole to the party? Even before... TreasonousBastard Aug 2016 #6
Saint Rudy of 911 ...nuff said. N/T Lance Bass esquire Aug 2016 #7
They know a certain percentage of their listeners will believe it. louis-t Aug 2016 #8
A noun a verb and Benghazi MattP Aug 2016 #9
Whatever his promised pay-off from Don the Con is I hope disappears in the smoke following... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #10
Really? REALLY? Who is the bald headed prick in this picture? George II Aug 2016 #11
Mr. "Exploit 9-11 as much as I can" said this? yellowcanine Aug 2016 #13
what... the ... fuck... these people seriously have to have some sort of brain rot going on Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #14
Giuliani has a particular form of brain rot....allows him to lie at all times. Stuart G Aug 2016 #48
There was that one day . . . Vinca Aug 2016 #15
Just wait 10 minutes, he'll be back with it Wednesdays Aug 2016 #63
I don't think my clue-by-four would help here sakabatou Aug 2016 #16
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Daemonaquila Aug 2016 #17
Did the date change for 9/11 cuz' I'm pretty sure that was pretty bad and led to two wars. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #18
rudy the water carrier. nt Javaman Aug 2016 #21
9/11/2001 was the best day of Giuliani's life. It's all been downhill for him, from there. Paladin Aug 2016 #23
And, remember the interceptor planes Bush and Powell ordered into action Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #24
Wow. There's gaslighting.... TwistedTinkerbelle Aug 2016 #25
Is this guy a slack jawed idiot, or Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2016 #26
So it was all sarisataka Aug 2016 #27
There were no bad mayors in America True Dough Aug 2016 #28
Trump saluuuuute underpants Aug 2016 #29
So we can forget about and ignore him bearssoapbox Aug 2016 #30
Wow. progressoid Aug 2016 #31
What brand of crack is he smoking? SummerSnow Aug 2016 #32
1st time Rabid Rudy hasn't mentioned 9/11 & how he saved NYC Motley13 Aug 2016 #33
The same Rudy that used 9/11 to promote himself Angry Dragon Aug 2016 #35
Rudy is still pushing for a cabinet position. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #36
Dumbass jpak Aug 2016 #43
Well, George W. Bush "kept us safe" according to his brother....please clap n/t hibbing Aug 2016 #44
9/11/2001 doesn't count for Rudy? muntrv Aug 2016 #45
Mr noun, a verb and 9-11 are ghouli's claim to fame kimbutgar Aug 2016 #46
Did Nosferatu fall and hit his head again? I guess 9/11/2001 and 2/26/1993 WTS bombing never FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #47
Wasn't Giuliani the idiot mayor who mover NYC emergency response unit beachbumbob Aug 2016 #49
Yes. He also stored a lot of volatile fuel in the WTC for the emergency generator. philly_bob Aug 2016 #54
What ever happened to all those rw bumperstickers proclaiming "never forget?" Apparently, Rudy has Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2016 #50
even discounting the 9/11 attacks, there was the "beltway sniper" incident 0rganism Aug 2016 #51
"...when Clinton and Obama got into office." Uh, dude ... that's not a real time. knightmaar Aug 2016 #53
You could say the elevator doesn't go to the 110th floor when it comes to this guy Rocknrule Aug 2016 #56
I can't believe lordsummerisle Aug 2016 #57
Pay attention kids, Mr. Giuliani and Ms. Pierson are trying to teach Rocknrule Aug 2016 #59
The Old Saying Firestorm49 Aug 2016 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Cartoonist Aug 2016 #62
Rudy needs a rubber room. GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #64
using republican logic - UpInArms Aug 2016 #65
Uh-oh ... Rudy just confirmed that 9-11 *wasn't* done by Islamic terrorists? Nihil Aug 2016 #66

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
1. He said eight years. That specifically includes the Sept. 11 attack that killed more than 3000
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:23 PM
Aug 2016

people.

They often make this statement -- as if 9.11 was under Clinton's watch.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
12. Don't you know all the planning happened during Clinton's watch
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:34 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

There was nothing Bush could have done in those 8 months to stop the attack because it was already in motion.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
22. Nonsense.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:54 PM
Aug 2016

A good example of how well the Air Defense Network worked toward the end of the Clinton years is the well-known case of golfer Payne Stewart's Lear jet.

When Stewart's jet failed to respond to air traffic controller communications on October 25, 1999, F-16 interceptors arrived on site within 20 minutes after contact with his plane was lost.

Had the Air Defense Network been similarly utilized on 9/11, the tragedy would have never happened.

I'll leave it to your imagination to determine why it was brazenly - and treasonously - allowed to take place. After all, 9/11 only gave them everything the Bush Cheney neocon regime wanted. Their "new Pearl Harbor" as they themselves so eloquently put it.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
34. Your facts are wrong.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:08 PM
Aug 2016

Payne Stewart's plane was intercepted 80 minutes after contact was lost. The F-16 was not an armed interceptor but a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron on a routine flight in the area that was asked to check Stewart's plane out.

Here is a link to the NTSB report.

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAB0001.pdf

There is no evidence what so ever that the US Air Force routinely intercepted planes over the continental US with armed interceptors. At the time there were exactly seven bases, all on the coast, with a total of 14 armed interceptors on alert for immediate launch. They were used exclusively to intercept and ID planes approaching the US from international airspace.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
38. You should read your own links, Hack 89.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:15 PM
Aug 2016

To wit:

At 0933:38 EDT (6 minutes and 20 seconds after N47BA acknowledged the previous
clearance), the controller instructed N47BA to change radio frequencies and contact another
Jacksonville ARTCC controller. The controller received no response from N47BA. The controller
called the flight five more times over the next 4 ½ minutes but received no response.

About 0952 CDT, a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base (AFB), Florida, was vectored to within 8 nm of N47BA.

About 0954 CDT, at a range of 2,000 feet from the accident airplane and an altitude of about 46,400 feet, the test pilot made two radio calls to N47BA but did not receive a response. About 1000 CDT, the test pilot began a visual inspection of N47BA.


So that's actually 14 minutes from the moment the ARTCC determined that Stewart was incomunicado.
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
61. the bigger red flag for 9/11 was all the NORAD drills prior to and on 9/11 that practiced
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:44 PM
Aug 2016

scenarios of terrorists hijacking jets and crashing them into US landmarks.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
42. I see. My apologies, OnlinePoker.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:18 PM
Aug 2016

All the more so because my response gave someone an opportunity to parrot his rw talking points - a recurring problem with him.

All the Best!

Response to forest444 (Reply #42)

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
19. I guess he didn't know who was President while he was Mayor.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:47 PM
Aug 2016

Reminds me of the quote from The Rainmaker:

“Dear Mrs. Black: On seven prior occasions this company has denied your claim in writing. We now deny it for the eighth and final time. You must be stupid, stupid stupid, stupid!”
― John Grisham

Dear President Bush: On multiple occasions we have denied that your were President on 9/11 to confuse the electorate. We will continue saying it since we know that anyone who listens to FAUX News must be stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
20. Of course it was under Clinton's watch!
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:47 PM
Aug 2016

He was too busy reading My Pet Goat in a classroom while Monica was sucking his dick to do anything about it. Also, Obama was the 20th hijacker. That's what Katrina Pierson said!

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
2. Rudy has joined the Donny tRump "Just Make S#&% Up" alternate reality.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:24 PM
Aug 2016

No more "noun, verb, 9/11" from Rudy. At least that is an improvement in a way.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
58. Yes, his speaking these days = Noun, Verb, (silence)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 06:32 PM
Aug 2016

Current Rudy speech:

• I believe.
• I know.
• I like.
• I hate.
• I really, really hate.
• George Bush made us safe.
• I'm done.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
3. Great!
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:25 PM
Aug 2016

Does that mean we can ignore him every time he brings up how he handled 9/11?

I mean, if it was an unsuccessful attack, then he was irrelevant, right?

Or maybe he believes it was a US operation. Is Giuliani becoming a "truther?"

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
8. They know a certain percentage of their listeners will believe it.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:28 PM
Aug 2016

And the rest will ignore it as if they never said it.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
10. Whatever his promised pay-off from Don the Con is I hope disappears in the smoke following...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:30 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary's landslide victory. He is totally, completely without shame in his Don the Con shilling.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
14. what... the ... fuck... these people seriously have to have some sort of brain rot going on
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:35 PM
Aug 2016

It's not even funny anymore.

Stuart G

(38,423 posts)
48. Giuliani has a particular form of brain rot....allows him to lie at all times.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:48 PM
Aug 2016

Trump also has that type.....

Now that statement...in OP..removes any respect anyone of intelligence might have for him...
we tried............

But 9/11 Rudi..was the one who shot himself in the head....

Wednesdays

(17,368 posts)
63. Just wait 10 minutes, he'll be back with it
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:38 PM
Aug 2016

and the brain dead minions will lap it up like mother's milk.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
17. WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:47 PM
Aug 2016

Someone please arrange for that clown to drown in a vat of his own bullshit. How dare he.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
18. Did the date change for 9/11 cuz' I'm pretty sure that was pretty bad and led to two wars.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:47 PM
Aug 2016

Silly me.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
23. 9/11/2001 was the best day of Giuliani's life. It's all been downhill for him, from there.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

I can't stand to look at or hear the guy speak, anymore.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. And, remember the interceptor planes Bush and Powell ordered into action
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

Which stopped the second plane from hitting the Twin Towers? Don't feel bad, it did not happen, the military was much closer to NYC than they were to Benghazi. People like Giuliani who attempts to rewrite history hoping we forgot and the video was destroyed needs serious help.

TwistedTinkerbelle

(137 posts)
25. Wow. There's gaslighting....
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

And then there's Republican's Gone Wild GASLIGHTING....At this point I got nuthin'. I realize it's almost redundant to ask just dumb they think we all are...because they obviously believe a kumquat is smarter than the majority of America. I get the whole it you keep telling the lie eventually the myth becomes legend...But daymn!

PS no offense to any kumquats intended.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
30. So we can forget about and ignore him
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:05 PM
Aug 2016

whenever he talks about saving New York by himself,

Riding on a pony,

During a snowstorm,

Uphill..

Both ways,

Ringing the Liberty Bell until it cracked?

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
36. Rudy is still pushing for a cabinet position.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:10 PM
Aug 2016

Which isn't going to happen. What he is doing is very very sad.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
47. Did Nosferatu fall and hit his head again? I guess 9/11/2001 and 2/26/1993 WTS bombing never
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:37 PM
Aug 2016

happened in his alternate delusional reality. The sad thing is there are many who would believe this fabulist.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
49. Wasn't Giuliani the idiot mayor who mover NYC emergency response unit
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:00 PM
Aug 2016

Into the twin towers before 9-11....and after an unsuccessful attack on the twin towers?

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
54. Yes. He also stored a lot of volatile fuel in the WTC for the emergency generator.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:34 PM
Aug 2016

Not enough people remember that.

0rganism

(23,952 posts)
51. even discounting the 9/11 attacks, there was the "beltway sniper" incident
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:08 PM
Aug 2016

along with a couple others, iirc

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
59. Pay attention kids, Mr. Giuliani and Ms. Pierson are trying to teach
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:20 PM
Aug 2016

9/11 was caused by Obama and Clinton. They were the ones piloting the planes and used their time machine to warp out at the last second to create ISIS and plan their attack on Benghazi 11 years later. There were no Republicans in the equation really at all. Please do not bother confirming dates or anything regarding this matter.

What was that Jimmy...who killed Osama Bin Laden?

George Bush got bin Laden. Killed him with his bare hands. And then he landed on an aircraft carrier wearing a flight suit that totally didn't have socks stuffed in the crotch to declare "mission accomplished".

Any other questions? Now let's move on to the German attack on Pearl Harbor. Which was also Obama and Clinton's fault.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
60. The Old Saying
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:25 PM
Aug 2016

Yes, Rudy, we all know the old addage that if you throw enough shit on the wall, some of it is bound to stick. MORON ....Kevin Klein, A Fish Called Wanda

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

UpInArms

(51,283 posts)
65. using republican logic -
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:42 AM
Aug 2016

since Guiliani was Mayor of New York City on 9/11, he should have prevented it.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
66. Uh-oh ... Rudy just confirmed that 9-11 *wasn't* done by Islamic terrorists?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:43 AM
Aug 2016

Tricky Dicky Cheney ain't gonna like that ...



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