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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:12 AM Jun 2016

Donald Trump plays Stones' song at Woodlands rally, despite being told no by band

Source: Houston Chronicle

Donald Trump plays Stones' song at Woodlands rally, despite being told no by band

Will Axford, Houston Chronicle
Updated 9:48 pm, Friday, June 17, 2016

Donald Trump can't always get what he wants, but he's going to act like he can.

Before taking the stage at a Friday rally in The Woodlands, Trump's campaign played the Rolling Stones' "You Can't Always Get What You Want." The song was played again after Trump's speech, according to Chronicle reporter Monica Rhor.

Fran Curtis, spokeswoman for the legendary rock band, told CNN on May 5 that the Stones never gave Trump permission to play the song and asked him to stop playing the band's songs at any future events.

The Rolling Stones aren't the only rockers who have told Trump to stop using their music.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Donald-Trump-plays-Rolling-Stone-s-song-at-8310223.php

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Donald Trump plays Stones' song at Woodlands rally, despite being told no by band (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2016 OP
Donald Trump likes the sound of his own voice and will not concede. onehandle Jun 2016 #1
So? jberryhill Jun 2016 #2
You're right. The band is just disavowing themselves, but they really have no say Android3.14 Jun 2016 #7
Not quite correct PJMcK Jun 2016 #9
The Stones have a lot of money. They can get an injunction first & then win a big / long lawsuit Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #3
If they can afford, and they can, to get the last word on this, they should. Judi Lynn Jun 2016 #4
Oh do tell bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #6
I'd imagine air, liquid, solids, or all leaving the digestive system explosively at either end. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2016 #8
Almost spit my coffee with that one! PJMcK Jun 2016 #10
Duzy award!!!!! LiberalLoner Jun 2016 #11
Ah! bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #12
Trump feels they should be HONORED to be with him. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #5
The most famous and eloquent song ever written about drug addiction. Paladin Jun 2016 #13
Not Sympathy for the Devil? Bayard Jun 2016 #14
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. So?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jun 2016

If the song is part of the ASCAP catalog, then licensing it for use at a non-profit event, or obtaining a license to use a broad range of ASCAP-licensed works, costs about $50. If the campaign paid the licensing fee, then what the band members think about it is entirely irrelevant.

A minor exception, having nothing to do with copyright, would be circumstances in which the work is used in such a way as to suggest a personal endorsement.

But if you want to use any of thousands of recordings as background music at your event, then you pay ASCAP your $50 and it doesn't matter what the artists think of you or your event.

If the Stones own all the rights in their recordings and don't want them used at events, then they can check their termination clause with ASCAP and handle their licensing on their own.

But if they do, then you also aren't going to hear that song anymore at bars, clubs, etc. because the licenses to play recorded music at commercial establishments are all run through ASCAP.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
9. Not quite correct
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:05 AM
Jun 2016

Performing Rights Organizations such as Ascap, BMI and Sesac grant public performance licenses for the compositions in their respective catalogs but there are significant restrictions in those licenses. For example, the blanket licenses issued by PRO's do not allow the use of their music for commercials which are licensed only by the authors and their music publishers. Likewise, the use of music for political campaigns is expressly excluded from the PRO's licenses. Other limitations include synchronization rights (use in film, video or TV) and commercial recordings (i.e. CD's or digital downloads) among other uses.

The Washington Post article linked by Android3.14 (post #7) is somewhat misleading when it implies that the songwriters' have limited options when their music is used without proper licensing. The copyright owners do control the use of their property but in many cases, the cost of litigation far exceeds the licensing fees for a given usage. More to the point, most political campaigns (and the general public) are ignorant of the copyright laws that allow the private ownership of music. By the way, those rights are acknowledged in the US Constitution.

Two other points. First, PRO's do not license recordings, only the public performances of the music. Those rights are held and controlled by the owner of the master recording, usually a record label. Second, the Rolling Stones' song catalog is represented by BMI, not Ascap.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
3. The Stones have a lot of money. They can get an injunction first & then win a big / long lawsuit
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:01 AM
Jun 2016

on the endorsement issue.

Trump plays Neil Young's music too, and Young told him to "Fuck Off".

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
4. If they can afford, and they can, to get the last word on this, they should.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:05 AM
Jun 2016

He needs to use sounds more in keeping with his essence.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
10. Almost spit my coffee with that one!
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:07 AM
Jun 2016

Judi Lynn, you win this morning! I had the same thought but you articulated it much more politely than I would have.

Have a great weekend.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
12. Ah!
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jun 2016

Irritable Bowel Syndrome - IBS

or staph aurea vomiting

you have created a memorable thought for the weekend! lol thanks

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
13. The most famous and eloquent song ever written about drug addiction.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jun 2016

Let Trump use it, for all I care.

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