Clinton declines to debate Sanders in California

[Little Tich]

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Source: CNN

Detroit (CNN)Hillary Clinton will not debate Bernie Sanders in California, her top campaign spokeswoman said Monday.

Declining to participate in the Fox News debate -- which Sanders had agreed to -- is another clear sign that Clinton and her top aides are fully focused on the general election against Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee.

"As we have said previously, we plan to compete hard in the remaining primary states, particularly California, while turning our attention to the threat a Donald Trump presidency poses," Jennifer Palmieri, Clinton's spokeswoman, said. "We believe that Hillary Clinton's time is best spent campaigning and meeting directly with voters across California and preparing for a general election campaign that will ensure the White House remains in Democratic hands."

Clinton's campaign is currently fighting a two-front war against both Trump, who has all but locked up the nomination, and Sanders, who has pledged to campaign until the last vote is counted in June.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-fox-debate-california/

[patsimp]

1. I'm glad. She needs to move on and face the real challenges - trump

Bernie's 10 minutes are up

[Bodych]

6. At first, I thought you meant the FBI criminal investigations.

[laserhaas]

130. Ditto

Certainly

[billhicks76]

16. She Made A Promise And Broke It

No one likes a liar except Clintonites apparently. The election is not over. Maybe Sanders should debate Trump instead.

[SunSeeker]

42. Sanders promised to disclose his 2015 tax returns and broke that promise. The primary is over. nt

[ReRe]

86. You WISH the Primary was over. ;p) n/t

Guess what? I do too. I want it over and in the rear-view mirror.

[RogueTrooper]

103. No the primary is over

and we have a real monster to fight; so, there is not time or money to spare in fighting zombies.

[Gman]

48. Nobody cares

[billhicks76]

80. Clintons Own Words About 2008 CA Primary And Assassination

Can you believe she raised that specter to Obama? http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/that-time-when-clinton-refused-to-drop-out-of-the-race-because-obama-could-be-assasinated/

[LovingA2andMI]

69. Bernie Should Debate Trump...

Why Not? HER has declined to debate. Why not invite Trump instead?

[billhicks76]

77. I Agree

All these so called people that tell us no one cares and it's over before the end are just digging themselves a hole.

[yuiyoshida]

111. That would be awesome

I would certainly watch it...

[anotherproletariat]

85. The primary is over, so no need for another debate. nt

[billhicks76]

96. Like Exit Polls Cancelled After NY?

When they showed a 4% differential and Hillary won by 14%? That constitutes a fraud investigation in other countries.

[Gene Debs]

41. She's chickenshit. She knows, as does everyone else, that if she debates her numbers will plummet.

[SunSeeker]

43. No, she beat BS in every debate. The primary is over; it's time to stop the circular firing squad.

Instead of fighting each other, we should be fighting Trump.

[Gman]

49. Why debate the loser

She has nothing to gain.

[pnwmom]

83. She beat him by 15 points after the last debate, proving he can't win by finger-wagging alone. n/t

[billhicks76]

116. Nice Juxtaposition But He Doesn't Wag His Finger In Her Face...Like Bill Did To All Of Us

Like her sex addicted husband did. I also recall him waiving his finger in Jerry Browns face in 1992 during the PBS roundtable debate. Do you remember that? Jerry implied he was bad for African Americans and had a photo of Bill and Sam Nunn inspecting the inmates at one of the first private prison boot camps using inmates for cheap labor. 20 Black men chained ankle to ankle in striped fatigues. It looked bad...real bad. Bill turned beat red, waived his finger and threatened Jerry saying, and I quote verbatim," Jerry, you don't know what you're messin' with." The implication was obvious to me as a young man. Perot was now in the race big and could easily split the conservative vote which is exactly what happened with Bill not even getting a majority. Bill was the pre-approved 'Democratic' choice of the Bush Sr supported national security establishment, and anyone getting in the way of that better be careful. It was extremely creepy and when Bill waived his finger at the American Public lying about having sex with a 21 year old subordinate I wasn't surprised having seen it before. Jerry Brown's campaign was much like Bernie's now but he was neutralized much easier given Bush was in power still and the country wasn't as jaded by conservative mantras yet. The Clintons and the Bushes have been extremely close since 1982...just ask them. It wouldve been nice if they has told us that in 1992 and not waited till 2000 to make it obvious.

[pnwmom]

122. Well, Bernie's older, so Bill must have learned the finger wagging from him.

[Helen Borg]

123. No, Bill learned it another way.

[McKim]

132. She Would Not Look Good to California in a Debate

She would not look good to Californians in a debate. The polls say she is way ahead in California, but they said the same thing in Oregon before the primary and Sanders did well in Oregon. Don't believe the polls and just go vote for Sanders!

[chervilant]

68. Clinton fairs badly in debates with Bernie.

And she's polling poorly against Trump. Maybe, if she was honest, she'd drop out and support Bernie.

[chwaliszewski]

70. +27

[leftofcool]

118. So that's why she is ahead by 3 million votes and 300 pledged delegates.

[Laser102]

134. LOL

[pnwmom]

82. Me, too. All of the debates and Town Halls have been nationally televised,

and had gotten very repetitive and predictable.

She shouldn't have to waste any more time.

[LonePirate]

2. She should agree to the debate and then attack Trump during the entire event.

[jalan48]

3. Maybe Bernie should ask for a debate at one of her $300,000-a plate fund raisers.

It appears that's where she's spending most of her time in California.

[840high]

27. Bam!

[msongs]

4. bernie conspires with fox news, the republican party to ambush clinton. she wisely declines nt

[Midnight Writer]

15. Exactly. Why agree to a two against one match-up? Fox and Bernie have both vowed to damage her.

She has the nomination in the bag. Why go for the knockout when she already has the decision win?

[billhicks76]

18. She Previously Agreed I Thought

One in MI, one in NY and one in CA. She looks like another corrupt politician when she's afraid of holding multiple debates to begin with and then trying to schedule the few she had on days no one watching. That's your favorite candidate? Wow.

[Gman]

50. Sanders just wants the free media.

Not to mention he's already lost.

[billhicks76]

76. He Has A Chance Still

[pnwmom]

84. She never agreed to Faux news, and it's the only network that came forward. n/t

[billhicks76]

97. Great Excuse

Why were exit polls cancelled after NY? They showed a 4% difference and Hillary won by 14 points. What's the explanation this time?

[pnwmom]

100. They weren't "cancelled." But the reasons for the discrepancy are obvious.

Younger people -- who are more likely to be Bernie supporters -- are more likely to vote at the polls.
Older people -- who are more likely to support Hillary -- are more likely to vote absentee.
Absentee voters aren't counted in the exit polls.

Also, NY Bernie supporters who were not registered Democrats were encouraged to ask for provisional ballots just in case a judge ruled favorably on the lawsuit to open up the primary. These voters would have told an exit pollster that they'd voted for Bernie -- but their votes wouldn't have been included in the tabulated results. That's probably why about a fifth of those interviewed in the Democratic exit polls identified themselves as Independents, rather than Democrats. No Independent votes on provisional ballots would have been counted.

[billhicks76]

102. That's A Good Answer

Do you know how many people voted absentee?

[Javaman]

125. yes, conspires...

[RandySF]

5. Good

It's time for him for start accepting the loss.

[Loudestlib]

40. .

"Honestly, I mean, I just believe that this is the most important job in the world, it’s the toughest job in the world. You should be willing to campaign for every vote. You should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere. I think it’s an interesting juxtaposition, where we find ourselves. And, you know, I have been willing to do all of that, during the entire process, and people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa.”

Hillary Clinton, 2008

[SunSeeker]

51. This is not 2008. The primary is over. nt

[Loudestlib]

61. It was over for her when she said it.

"You've been hearing me say it's a rigged system, but now you don't hear me say it anymore because I won. Okay? It's true. You know, now I don't care. I don't care."

Donald Trump, 2016

[SunSeeker]

64. The Dem primary is not rigged. You should not believe Trump's lies.

Sanders lost fair and square. By a lot.

[ReRe]

92. The Primary is NOT over yet. And you kow it. n/t

[SunSeeker]

94. The Primary is over for BS. He lost. By a lot. nt

[billhicks76]

113. Total Propaganda...You Cant Not Include Caucus States In The Popular Vote

And There are many delegates up...are you just desperate for attention by making false claims?

[Gore1FL]

7. I don't blame her.

She does poorly in them.

[wisteria]

13. What debates were you watching?

She is a great debater. Better than he who will not be named here in GD for fear of being alerted on.

[Gore1FL]

17. I must have missed the ones she performed well in.

Or any time she showed prowess as a speaker, for that matter.

[cstanleytech]

21. I have skipped all of the debates because I intend to vote for

whichever wins because I have seen both speak for decades and realize that they either one of them would be a better president than Trump or any of the other candidates that run under the Republican ticket.

[joshcryer]

8. I'm really surprised by this.

Got it wrong.

[ThinkCritically]

9. I live in Sacramento..

and I've only met 4 Hillary supporters at a Bernie rally. I've met many Bernie supporters and a few Chumps. But I've yet to meet any other Hillary supporters. Maybe they aren't very active in politics? Or they just prefer to not talk about politics openly? Not sure. I'd love to talk to some Hillary supporters and see why they choose to support her.

[wisteria]

12. Oh, we are out here, busy with our lives, but still strong supporters of Hillary Clinton.

[olddad56]

20. I also live in Sacramento and would like to talk to some of the people here who...

helped elect the clown that we have for a mayor. If the people of this city were stupid enough to elect that tool twice, then I think Trump could win this city over.

[ThinkCritically]

23. RIGHT!?

He spent most of his time working on that damn arena in downtown and neglected everything else.

[olddad56]

34. He hasn't neglected the out of town developers who have contributed to his charity..

He has just ignored the citizens of Sacramento. I have been living in Sacramento since 1972 and he is, by far, the worst mayor we have had in the time I have lived here.

[leftofcool]

119. LMAO!

Pretty big city, Sacramento, yes?

[Thor_MN]

128. You are looking for Clinton supporters at a Sanders rally?

Maybe there's better places to try to talk to Clinton supporters?

[wisteria]

10. Yeah!

Most of us know the primaries are over except for the formalities.

[billhicks76]

26. Ah Yes. Democracy Merely A Formality For You

Clintonites have been acting out that way before the first votes were even cast. And all the complaining about how Bernie isn't a "real" Democrat and just an independent. They remind me of the unreasonableness my 75 year old parents have developed over the years. And of course it's totally myopic and wrong. You should all be grateful (if it's possible for you to be grateful about anything) that Bernie DID NOT run as an independent when he saw the corruption from many Democrats selling out to the big banks, corporations and national security contractors. If he had run as the independent you claim he really is then Hillary wouldn't have a chance in Hell of winning the general and Bernie would gather enough people that couldn't stomach Trump. All the insults and smugness will never help you in the end.

[greyl]

11. Good move. nt

[SeattleVet]

14. Backing out on what she agreed to in February?

This is one of the 3 additional debates that she agreed to participate in. Now she's blowing off a commitment she made just a few months ago.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268079-clinton-sanders-agree-to-four-more-debates

[cstanleytech]

24. It would have been the final one and I dont believe its relevant at this point because both have

been active and in public for decades so I doubt many voters will learn much if anything more about the candidates with a single debate that they dont already know unless of course a voter has had their head buried in the sand for the last 18+ years.

[billhicks76]

28. Ignorance Alert

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It's not just policy wonks or foot soldiers who vote. Most of the public do not follow things that closely until it's right in their face. People need debates always. Shutting down debate is for communist and fascist countries. It's never a good argument. She agreed amd probably dos knowing she would back out. I'm amazed at what people defend when their favorite candidate does it. Bush wanted fewer debates. He had been around. So what. It made him look like he wanted the truth to be suppressed and everyone here agreed. Now it's okay to act like Bush. You need to be called out on that hypocrisy.

[cstanleytech]

33. First of all she isnt is my preferred choice, that one decided she didnt want to run and I

respect her choice so your whole line of ". I'm amazed at what people defend when their favorite candidate does it." just took a hit and got flushed.
Second I will vote for whichever wins because both are excellent candidates imo.
Third what earth shattering thing would we learn by a 4th debate about Bernie or Hillary that could turn the election either way?

[billhicks76]

74. I'll Vote For Her Against Trump

Obviously. People need debates. Not everyone is clear or knowledgable who votes even in a primary.

[cstanleytech]

129. I would much rather see a debate involving Trump with one or both of them as I think either

could shred that asshole.

[leftofcool]

120. Why should she debate the losing candidate?

[jmowreader]

19. By now, we already know their positions on everything debatable

There's no point to having another debate.

[billhicks76]

29. Yes. And We Shouldn't Have Had Even Those First Debates Right?

It's becoming embarrassing to my kids to be associated with members of my party that speak like you do.

[jmowreader]

39. Please stop trying to put words in people's mouths.

How many times do we have to hear Bernie doesn't like big business, he doesn't like big banks, he didn't vote for the war in Iraq, he wants Hillary to release the transcripts of her speeches, and he thinks the taxpayers should pay for everyone's healthcare, family leave and college tuition before we know Bernie doesn't like big business, he doesn't like big banks, he didn't vote for the war in Iraq, he wants Hillary to release the transcripts of her speeches, and he thinks the taxpayers should pay for everyone's healthcare, family leave and college tuition? He's said the same basic things nine times already. If he had a single new thing to say, I'd be willing to hear it. But he doesn't.

[LibDemAlways]

67. There are plenty of Californians who are not

as invested in politics as those of us on DU are. They haven't been paying close attention and maybe have only a vague idea of where the candidates stand on the issues. Those voters deserve the opportunity to hear from both candidates side by side in a debate format so that they can make an informed decision. Hillary's refusal to participate is disrespectful to the California electorate. I hope Bernie reminds his audiences at the rallies he's holding throughout the state that Hillary refuses to debate him here.

[billhicks76]

75. Maybe People In CA Need To Hear It

[jmowreader]

104. Last I checked, this is the presidential election of 2016, not 1816

California receives television and radio broadcasts, newspapers are printed there and the Internet is available in at least a couple of the larger towns. Senator Sanders' message has been freely available for about a year. If anyone in California wishes to find out what his plans are, they're able to. No further debates are needed.

[billhicks76]

112. You Need To Wake Up

Listening to Hillary speak today she seemed like an unenthused, dead fish and the crowd around her felt the same. Trust me, Trump wants to face Hillary. There is a reason they do close ups at her rallies. It's because no one is there...Bernie can bring 20,000 while Hillary barely gets 200. But have it your way...the banks, corporations and racists will be thanking you later.

[billhicks76]

81. Clintons Words CA Primary 2008 and Assassination

Wow. People need to reread this. She implied anyone can get assassinated so you have to go to the end. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/that-time-when-clinton-refused-to-drop-out-of-the-race-because-obama-could-be-assasinated/

[BigDemVoter]

22. She has nothing to gain from it, as she is so far ahead.

I really wish she WOULD participate.

[Pauldg47]

44. Wasn't she far ahead in about all states Bernie beat her? Bernie knows how to convey. Have fear.

[elleng]

25. Surprise!

[pacalo]

30. She can't compete with Bernie's message.

[Pauldg47]

46. Absolutely true!!!

[pacalo]

56. I love the idea about a Sanders/Trump debate!!!

[pacalo]

60. That's how I was thinking!!!

Seriously, Bernie needs to propose this!

[yuiyoshida]

115. "Just win, damnit!"

you are making me long for Raider football !!

[LovingA2andMI]

71. That makes three of us!

Let's hope the Bernie Team makes this happen!

[pacalo]

88. Can someone with a Twitter account get the word out

to Bernie's campaign?

That would be some debate!

[NanceGreggs]

32. Good for her!

Bernie is out of money and can't afford TV ads in California - so he wants freebie airtime via a debate.

At this point, Bernie is irrelevant - and so are his "demands". Exactly how stupid is he that he doesn't recognize that simple fact?

[tom_kelly]

35. Its past time for her to drop out of the race in

order to allow the party to come together behind Bernie. Bernie, as the only one who could be Trump in the general, could direct his time and resources to battling Trump instead of both of them at the same time. Very selfish of her.

[SunSeeker]

52. She won the primary. By a lot. It is BS who should drop out. nt

[billhicks76]

114. Its Not Over Genius...Good Thing You Dont Play Sports

[SusanLarson]

36. She lost the state

That's why she won't debate, if she thought she had a chance she would have.

[leftofcool]

121. 99% chance to win California and 15 percentage points ahead is losing?

[Petrushka]

37. "Anytime. Anywhere." Except California?

[JDPriestly]

38. Snubbing California. What a mistake!

[SunSeeker]

53. No, she snubbed Fox. Californians already know who they are voting for. nt

[JDPriestly]

54. In my neighborhood, people are voting for Bernie. Especially young people.

That I know for sure.

And she is snubbing California. We are a big state. We voters did not ask to be among the last to vote.

New York's picking its past senator was considered a big deal. Texas voted.

Finally, it's our turn. We are a major Democratic state, and Hillary could care less about us.

Let me tell you. The mood here when it comes to Hillary is not good! Not in my neighborhood. Not in my area.

And the fact that she is breaking a promise, going back on her word does not look good either. She constantly changes her mind. She cannot be trusted to do what she says she will do.

[SunSeeker]

59. In my neighborhood, and at my work, they're voting for Hillary.

Two men at my work recently switched from Sanders to Hillary. The rest, especially the women, were always for Hillary.

Hillary is not snubbing the state. Hillary has and will be spending a lot of time in CA traveling all over the state and talking to voters before the June 7 primary. Many voters, such as myself, have already sent in their mail-in ballot.

Your neighborhood is not representative of California.

[JDPriestly]

89. If she is interested in California, if we Californians matter to her, she should debate in our

state.

Is she afraid? Or is she just smug and self-satisfied?

I'm talking to people who are switching to Bernie. I don't know what state you are in, but I am in California.

[SunSeeker]

91. No, Californians understand Dems should be fighting Trump, not each other. nt

[JDPriestly]

95. Sorry, but Democrats are fighting each other. And Hillary's attitude of noblesse oblige,

her sense of being entitled and the chosen one just because . . . will cause a lot of difficulty in November and at the convention.

She should be debating Bernie here in California.

A May debate was originally scheduled.

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-debate-schedule/2016-democratic-primary-debate-schedule/

Now Hillary is reneging on her promise to debate in May.

Typical Hillary. Changing her mind for no good reason.

Being very unreliable.

Hillary the unreliable.

[SunSeeker]

98. If Sanders thought this Primary wasn't over, he'd turn over his 2015 tax returns like he promised.nt

[JDPriestly]

101. If Hillary cared about the votes of people like me she would a) debate in California

and b) publish the transcripts and release the videos of her speeches to Wall Street.

How can she claim to be a candidate for ordinary people like me when she gives speeches for $225,000 a throw and then refuses to let a voter like me know what she said?

Bernie's tax returns? Boring.

Hillary's speeches. She's hiding something, and she's hiding it because it is bad news and because she is afraid that Democrats won't support her once we know the truth about what she said in those speeches.

[ArcticFox]

138. wrong

I was out talking to folks in a petty affluent area over the weekend - a place where you'd think they're up on politics. Fifty percent still hadn't decided.

[Joob]

45. Lol, Debates help us solve conflicts. Guess this party doesn't need a discussion. Everyone's happy!

[Bradical79]

47. I would have liked to see another debate, but why Fox news?

I have little confidence in Fox News being able to host a Democratic debate worth watching.

Makes sense for Clinton to decline though since she's just about wrapped up the nomination. She doesn't really have much to gain from it.

[JoeOtterbein]

55. "Declines"! Or is she as worried, as the rest of us Dems, that she may lose in Nov?

[bbgrunt]

58. While it is probably good campaign strategy, it just shows how easily she breaks

"promises" and how little respect she has for the voters of CA.

[Wibly]

62. Smell the Poultry

From the story: "Declining to participate in the Fox News debate -- which Sanders had agreed to -- is another clear sign that Clinton and her top aides are fully focused on the general election against Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee."

I call hooey. What it really is, another clear sign Clinton and her top aides are scared to death of openly debating Sanders."
Period.

If Clinton wins she won't only be the first female President, she'll be the first Poultry to achieve such high office because clearly she's chicken!

[MFM008]

63. And give it to Fox news?

Fu*k fox news.

[ucrdem]

65. Much ado about not much. This thing is over and CA mail-in voting is already under way.

They're both doing plenty of free local events this week so it's not like they're not available and if anyone hasn't watched a debate or two by now they're not going to tune in during graduation season / start of summer. It would be a waste of time for Clinton and only helpful to Bernie if she really slipped up.

[QC]

66. It's not like anyone expects her to keep her word anyway. n/t

[Betty Karlson]

72. Then she has broken one more promise. Loathsome candidate.

[Amimnoch]

73. So Bernie would legitimize fox news?

I don't question her motives for turning it down.

I question his motives for accepting it.

His political capital is being anti establishment and progressive, yet he'd legitimize Murdoch central with a debate? The home of such legendary anti establishment and progressive figures like Hannity, Kelly, O'reily, Gingrich...


Is there another network who's offered to host the CA debate?

[ArcticFox]

139. What network is anti-establishment?

Because I can't find one.

[Babel_17]

78. Clinton In 2008: “You Should Be Willing To Debate Anytime, Anywhere”

[pacalo]

99. *spit take*

[tomm2thumbs]

79. Fraidy Cat

she makes it quite clear

"you should be willing to debate, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE..."

_____

believe anything she says at your own risk

[Kip Humphrey]

87. Hillary makes an agreement then breaks that agreement.

keeping one's agreements is paramount in life.

[karynnj]

136. Good point - especially if a key weakness is that you are seen as dishonest or not trustworthy

The fact is that doing a debate - not necessarily the FOX one - and being gracious for 2 whole weeks would make a big difference to some people she needs to win. Look at the polls, this is not a race where she is 20 points ahead - even if she should be given who Trump is. She can not afford to turn off people who - however unhappily - are naturally on her side.

Although it is Sanders who is for having the debate, it is Clinton who has more to lose from saying "no". I assume that her team and her supporters trust in her enough that they do not think that a debate could harm her.

[hughee99]

90. Does anyone think a debate will change anything?

The best Sanders can hope for is that she'll say something that she'll have to pretend she didn't say a 4 months from now. Clinton supporters and Sanders supporters will both claim victory and the undecided people they were hoping to sway won't even tune in.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

93. Face it, she thinks Sanders supporters are a tiny minority....

I'm sure all of the people who surround her are constantly telling her she's wildly popular.

[Lil Missy]

105. that is the correct decision. There's no reason

to debate Sanders, when she has already won. And also, Fox News??? What a bunch!

[Geronimoe]

106. She is evolving to the right wing

in order to win the republicans. Talking about real issue only hurts her because she has lived in a bubble her whole life.

[Fairgo]

108. No honor

The world is watching. They know that she has no honor.

[youceyec]

109. Why does bernie wanna debate this late?

Time to unify against the GOP NOW.

[youceyec]

110. also

whats the point? She will be the nominee? Of course she doesnt have to debate.

[Android3.14]

117. Perhaps she will debate herself

She's like a grab bag at a cheap carnival game.

[left-of-center2012]

124. She was for the debate before she was against the debate

She just keeps on evolving,
and evolving,
and evolving

It makes your head spin

[apcalc]

126. Good!

That debate would serve no good purpose.

[blackspade]

127. What a shock!

Not.

[polly7]

131. Whatever happened to 'anytime, anywhere' and all states deserving a chance to hear

candidates on the issues?

Full video:

"In a Wednesday afternoon statement, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said the Vermont senator has accepted an invitation from Fox News to debate "with the understanding that we can reach mutual agreement on the debate moderators, the format and other details.”

Weaver said both campaigns in January agreed to hold a debate in May in California, adding that the Clinton campaign has “balked at keeping that pledge.”

“More than half way through the month of May, we hope Secretary Clinton will soon make good on her campaign’s commitment and agree to a time and pace for a debate,” Weaver said in the statement.

“There are issues of enormous importance facing the people of California and our nation and the people of our largest state deserve to hear the Democratic candidates [sic] opinions."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280405-sanders-pushes-clinton-for-debate-in-california

(bbm)

[ucrdem]

133. The backlash begins:

[NonMetro]

135. What a Dis to the 40 million people of California!

If I lived there, there is no way I'd be voting for her. She declared it's over before 40 million Americans have had a say in the matter? My god, her arrogance is unbelievable!

[Herman4747]

137. "Anytime, Anywhere." WHAT A LIAR!!!

Incredible how low the standards some Democrats have regarding their presidential candidate.