Judge Leaves Open a Hillary Clinton Deposition in Email Case

[laserhaas]

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Source: National Law Journal

A federal judge in Washington issued an order on Wednesday that left open the possibility that Hillary Clinton could be subpoenaed to testify about her use of a private email server as secretary of State.

Read more: https://shar.es/1eJkmV via @TheNLJ

[Cryptoad]

1. It also left open the possibilty that,,,,,

if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their ass when they jump! geeez

[LeFleur1]

15. HERE Is WHAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND

If there was a policy against using a private email server why didn't someone bring it up at some point?
Why didn't the FBI say she couldn't do it? Why didn't the CIA? Why didn't Obama or Biden? Why didn't her husband? Why didn't SOMEONE say a word about it? Why didn't the Republicans jump up and down and sh** marbles when Powell and Rice used a private email server?

We know why. There is no policy against it. It's the only thing Republicans in office do well. Lie and spend tax money on garbage, when they are doing anything at all.

[laserhaas]

17. Very flawed logic

A bad deal was made because she is wife of ex POTUS

and the bad deal resulted in some of the worse that could

[LeFleur1]

19. Nonsense.

And ridiculous. Maybe silly, too.

[laserhaas]

20. Oh yeah...like every other person has their own secret

Server negotiat3d with POTUS

What is silly, sad even, is your making up your mind to stick with her, come hell or hi DWS riggings water

[IdaBriggs]

24. Powell and Rice didn't use private servers. None of the other Cabinet

people did either. Please start here -- http://thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_Timeline

for a better understanding of the problem. So far you are confusing "email account" with "computer server", which may explain why you aren't understanding why there is a problem.

In a nutshell, she was supposed to use a ".gov" email, which would live on government servers, and those emails (known as work product) belong to the American people/we have access to them under FOIA. She did her own "Hillary.com" (fake name for easy explanation) which mean the emails lived on HER server in her basement, and no one in the public had access to them. She did not tell people she did this (so no one in government IT made sure they were "safe" from hackers or backed them up onto government records systems), didn't turn them in when she left office, and then deleted half the emails when she did turn them in (which looks suspicious).

Legal consequences are currently 38 civil lawsuits for avoiding FOIA (two of which are far enough along in the process that she will end up being deposed under oath) and a year long criminal investigation by the FBI that is not looking good for her on multiple levels (especially since it appears the Clinton Foundation was paying Blumenthal to spy on the NSA and CIA for her).

Hope this helps!

[Vinca]

25. No one knew about it until someone she was communicating with had his computer

hacked by "Guccifer" and the Hillary emails were discovered and were found to originate from a server in her basement. Her husband and close associates were probably behind the idea to keep her communications out of reach of FOIA in case she ran for president again.

[LiberalArkie]

31. Powell and Rice had private email servers located on Dept of State property.

HRC has been the only person to have one on private property.

[Calista241]

34. If you find any classified info in their FOIA email releases

You're free to do what they're doing to Hillary.

[LiberalArkie]

36. The point was that the information never left the State Dept. Cheney had one also in his office area

that he deleted everything on. But again that one was on U.S. Government property. All those machines were on their side of the the governments .GOV firewall. The same can not be said about HRC's server in the .COM domain. If she had placed it in a room in the office building not much would have probably been said. But she didn't.

[ReRe]

2. Coulda-woulda-shoulda...

... other article said Judge "may" call her to testify. These words aren't getting it with me. Is something going to happen or not?
National Law Journal, Associated Press. Sounds legit, but where are the VERBS?

[laserhaas]

3. You would think that Fast Track was the way to go

IDK about "the other article" wording..as Law Journal is usually not given to word gaming

[laserhaas]

4. The real queer thing, is the immune guy refusal to testify

So much inexplicable conundrums

[ReRe]

7. Seriously!

I thought the guy already took the 5th, then they went out and gave him immunity and he was supposed to talk. But no. WTF is up with that? Does that happen allot? I thought when they got immunity, they talked. Scratching my head, laserhaas. I can't figure out anything anymore. Up is down, out is in, wrong is right, right is wrong.

[laserhaas]

9. With you on that 'ReRe'...we've watched DOJ do worse

Than nothing..in our federal eToys cases.

Brother of MINN Asst. U.S. Attorney winds up dead...involved in Ponzi schemes

Feds and press both said it's a yawn

Not news worthy ..nor fed investigate worthy

That's why Im begging for Bernie to get in

To get up..as up..once more

[PatrynXX]

5. Mostly has to do with what if any she did after the freedom of info request

If she did delete emails after that then there is a small chance of a problem. But again Obama let Bush Jr go on War Crimes so not sure where if any this will go.

[laserhaas]

6. This issue has a chance of going on longer, past Jan. 2017

Where O's say wont matter

[ReRe]

8. Nope...

... Remember the "Nixon Doctrine." "If the President does it, it isn't wrong?" Above the law, and all that. Wait a minute, WhereTF am I? In a third world nation?

[laserhaas]

10. You are in the United States of Oligarch

Always Above the Law

America

[ReRe]

13. I never thought....

... this could be so funny, but I do think I am hysterical at this point!

[laserhaas]

14. Id probably laugh too

If their have such as a reality

Didnt hurt me so much

[laserhaas]

11. Hashtag #DropOutClinton going viral on Twitter

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511901753

[laserhaas]

12. Is everyone aware she can't invoke the 5th Amendment

In civil prooceedings

[Calista241]

35. Her deposition is subject to subpoena by the FBI

And the FBI doesn't do civil investigations or security reviews

[laserhaas]

37. Ummm...this thread is about the FOIA case...Civil

In case you weren't aware

[Calista241]

40. That makes no difference

She's giving a sworn deposition on a matter the FBI is publicly investigating. Do you really think the feebs are just going to pretend that she hasn't given a deposition. This is most certainly subject to discovery by the FBI; and Judicial Watch will probably be emailing a copy of what they find to them within 3 seconds of the conclusion of the meeting.

The fact that there is an ongoing investigation is all she needs to take the 5th in front of a partisan witch hunt lead by a biased group of lawyers.

[laserhaas]

41. Of course not...hell bent Hillarians

Take the dynamic of being obtuse..to new heights

[laserhaas]

16. Hacker interviews to air ..tonight

And Sunday

[In_The_Wind]

18. Locking Duplicate Thread. Continue this discussion here:

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[laserhaas]

21. Hey...the unlocked the locked

What the hell?????

[olddad56]

22. Bernie versus a corporate tool and a narcissistic monster

this should be a no brainer

[laserhaas]

23. It would be..if he were running against anyone else

Blocked poles...disenfranchising DNC...rigged (obtuse) media....no corporate donations..crowds always in the thousands..waiting all day long ( i have..multiple times)

And....We're Still Here...dang near neck n neck

So Super Cool

[noiretextatique]

27. It's her turn!

Apparently

[laserhaas]

33. What A Yuuge C R O C K...her turn my arse

Was she pre ordained by G-d?

Does Michele get " her turn"?
( talk about things going bonkers)

[leftofcool]

26. judicial watch blah blah blah!!!!!! Keep hoping for that indictment fairy!

[noiretextatique]

28. It's not from Judicial Watch

But probably some other rw vast conspiracy outfit. Just tighten your blinders.

[leftofcool]

29. That is exactly who is behind this.

JW still wants to know how Huma rated maternity leave. They think they will find some conspiracy about Huma's leave in the emails.

[karynnj]

30. No one questioned maternity leave

What was questioned was that when she returned to work, she soon was working for the State Department part time, the Clinton Foundation, a private Clinton allied company and for HRC personally. Could a new mom adding to what was already a very tough job have been because her husband resigned his seat? I did not look up the timining.

There are enormous potential conflict of interest problems.

[JoePhilly]

32. Any second now!!!

[laserhaas]

38. Are you holding your breath?

[JoePhilly]

39. Would have passed out a year ago.